Monday Roundup: Morgan, Lyon Win 11th Straight French Title

The Equalizer Staff May 8, 2017 191

ALSO IN TODAY’S ROUNDUP, ERIN MCLEOD PLAYS AGAIN, MEEHAN AND MATHESON RECEIVE HONORS, USYWNT ROSTERS ANNOUNCED, AND MORE

Alex Morgan led OL in goals in their Coupe de France semifinal win. (photo courtesy Olympique Lyonnais)

Alex Morgan led Lyon to victory in France. (photo courtesy Olympique Lyonnais)

Braces from Alex Morgan, Ada Hegerberg, and Eugénie Le Sommer, as well as goals from Wendie Renard, Saki Kumagi, and a Soyaux own goal, contributed to a 9-0 thrashing of Soyaux as Olympique Lyon won their 11th straight Division 1 Féminine title. The team is currently 19-0-1 in the season, with two matches to go.

They will meet rivals Paris Saint-Germain three times over the next month, once to wrap Division 1 Féminine play, once in the final of the Coupe de France Féminine as they look to defend five straight titles, and finally in the Champions League final on June 1 in Cardiff, Wales. Morgan and company knocked Carli Lloyd’s Manchester City out in the Champions League semifinal on the way to defending their 2016 title. Morgan is expected to rejoin the Orlando Pride after that match in June.

ERIN MCLEOD RETURNS TO THE FIELD

Canadian goalkeeper Erin McLeod saw the field for FC Rosengard for the first time in more than a year after suffering her third ACL tear in early 2016, forcing her to miss the Rio Olympics. McLeod, who left the Houston Dash after the 2015 season to sign with the Swedish team, earned a clean sheet in her return as Rosengard easily defeated Kopparbergs/Göteborg FC (whose roster includes Americans Sarah Teegarden and Savannah Levin) 5-0 with a brace from Ella Masar, another former Dash player.

The goalkeeper returned to action in March, spending time training with Rosengard’s youth squads before beginning practice with the full team and sitting on the bench for the team’s exit from the Champions League in the quarterfinals. McLeod trained with Canada last month but has not yet returned to the squad. The roster for next month’s friendlies against Costa Rica has yet to be announced.

MEEHAN NAMED BOSTON COLLEGE EAGLE OF THE YEAR

McKenzie Meehan is now Boston College's all-time leader in points.

McKenzie Meehan receives an honor from her alma mater.

Sky Blue forward McKenzie Meehan has been named Boston College’s female Eagle of the Year, an annual award given to the school’s top male and female student-athletes for their achievements both on and off the field. It is considered Boston College’s highest honor for a student-athlete.

Meehan was extremely prolific in her time as an Eagle, setting the program records for most career goals, points, and game-winning goals. In 2013, she also set the program’s single season goal record at 20. When not terrorizing defenders on the pitch, Meehan earned both an undergraduate degree and an MBA from the university. She has seen time with both the U-20 and U-23 USWNTs, and was drafted in 2017 with the 23rd overall pick by Sky Blue. She has made two appearances for the team so far.

USWNT STARS CRITICIZE FIFA APPOINTMENT

Mahfuza Akhter Kiron of Bangladesh is under immediate criticism after she won a vote today over Moya Dodd of Australia to hold the female representative’s spot for the Asian confederation on FIFA’s governing council. Dodd, a former Australian international, was considered the favorite after serving as an appointed member of FIFA from 2013 to 2016. She is a former vice president and current executive committee member of the Asian Football Confederation.

When asked by the BBC to name the current women’s world champions, Kiron first replied with Korea and Japan before getting it correct on her third try with the U.S. Naturally, this did not sit well with many of those players, some of whom, such as Alex Morgan, Carli Lloyd, and Morgan Brian, took to social media to express their displeasure with her lack of knowledge.

MATHESON HONORED IN HOMETOWN

Diana Matheson (Photo: Canada Soccer)

Diana Matheson was honored in her hometown. (Photo: Canada Soccer)

Canadian midfielder Diana Matheson received a unique honor in her hometown of Oakville, Ontario, where they designated a street in her honor. Rambler Court will retain its name but has a received a ceremonial sign in tandem, naming it Diana Matheson Way. Matheson grew up in Oakville and is a graduate of White Oaks Secondary School, where she captained the soccer team.

The Princeton graduate was traded in the offseason from the Washington Spirit to the Seattle Reign, but she tore her ACL before the current NWSL season began, forcing her to miss the 2017 entirely. She has been a member of the Canadian Women’s National Team since 2003, winning back to back bronze medals at the 2012 and 2016 Olympics.

SKY BLUE ANNOUNCES DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY

Sky Blue FC celebrate Raquel Rodriguez's goal that have them a 1-0 win over FC Kansas City on Sunday. (photo copyright Katie Cahalin for The Equalizer)

Sky Blue FC is forming a girls’ development academy. (photo copyright Katie Cahalin for The Equalizer)

Sky Blue FC will be partnering with New York Soccer Club to form Sky Blue – NYSC, a youth development program that will be an inaugural member of the U.S. Soccer Girls’ Development Academy, which launches this fall. The program will field teams at all levels from U14 to U19 and on top of player development, will also serve as a scouting tool and pathway to the US Soccer Youth National Teams.

“We are very excited to establish Sky Blue – NYSC and be named as an initial member of the U.S. Soccer Girls’ Development Academy, and to play a pivotal role in the furtherance and development of the women’s game,” said Steven Temares, co-owner of Sky Blue. “As an organization, we remain focused on the technical ability and tactical awareness of our players. We also strive to play a brand of entertaining and winning soccer that is world-class in caliber. With the establishment of Sky Blue – NYSC, we are thrilled to join the exceptional talents of New York Soccer Club with the women’s professional game. New York Soccer Club has produced many youth national players through their U.S. Soccer Boys’ Development Academy program, and we look forward to having similar success on the girls’ side with Sky Blue – NYSC.”

U-19, U-20 ROSTERS ANNOUNCED FOR MATCHES AGAINST JAPAN

The U-19 and U-20 USWNTs will hold training camps at the US Soccer National Training Center in Carson, California, later this month. Both teams will face Japan’s U-20 team at the conclusion of their camps. The U-20 roster features Jaelin Howell, Sophia Smith, and Brianna Pinto, all of whom have been included in recent senior WNT camps. Defender Samantha Hiatt will attend both camps.

U-20 WNT Roster:

Goalkeepers: Amanda Dennis (Penn State; Palmetto, Fla.), Brooke Heinsohn (Duke; Norfolk, Mass.), Laurel Ivory (West Florida Flames; Surfside, Fla.), Amanda McGlynn (Virginia Tech; Jacksonville, Fla.)

Defenders: Sydney Dawson (Internationals SC; Akron, Ohio), Julie Doyle (San Diego Surf; Laguna Niguel, Calif.), Emily Fox (UNC; Ashburn, Va.), Samantha Hiatt (Stanford; Newcastle, Wash.), Tara McKeown (San Diego Surf; Newbury Park, Calif.), Isabel Rodriguez (Michigan Hawks; Canton, Mich.), Karina Rodriguez (UCLA; Torrance, Calif.), Sophia Serafin (West Coast FC; Glendora, Calif.)

Midfielders: Tierna Davidson (Stanford; Menlo Park, Calif.), Savannah DeMelo (USC; Bellflower, Calif.), Jaelin Howell (Real Colorado; Windsor, Colo.), Taylor Kornieck (Colorado; Henderson, Nev.), Brianna Pinto (CASL; Durham, N.C.), Viviana Villacorta (Beach FC; Lawndale, Calif.)

Forwards: Amirah Ali (PDA; Voorhees, N.J.), Belle Briede (Tophat SC; Alpharetta, Ga.), Mireya Grey (Crossfire SC; Seattle, Wash.), Abigail Kim (California; Vashon, Wash.), Civana Kuhlmann (Colorado Rush; Littleton, Colo.), Adrienne Richardson (Minnesota Thunder Academy; Oakdale, Minn.), Sophia Smith (Real Colorado; Windsor, Colo.), Kelsey Turnbow (Santa Clara; Scottsdale, Ariz.)

U-19 WNT Roster:

Goalkeepers: Hillary Beall (So Cal Blues; Laguna Beach, Calif.), Brooke Bollinger (Orlando City; Melbourne, Fla.), Zoe Clevely (Irvine Strikers; Huntington Beach, Calif.)

Defenders: Kerry Abello (Eclipse Select; Batavia, Ill.), Malia Berkely (Florida State; Liberty Township, Ohio), Naomi Girma (Central Valley Crossfire; San Jose, Calif.), Samantha Hiatt (Stanford; Newcastle, Wash.), Tavia Leachman (Utah; Long Beach, Calif.), Julie Mackin (Clemson; Castle Rock, Colo.), Kaiya McCullough (UCLA; Mission Viejo, Calif.), Kiara Pickett (Eagles; Santa Barbara, Calif.)

Midfielders: Samantha Coffey (Match Fit Academy; Sleepy Hollow, N.Y.), Kristina Fisher (Miami; Jupiter, Fla.), Zoe Morse (Virginia; East Lansing, Mich.), Natalie Winters (Iowa; Plymouth, Mich.), Taryn Torres (FC Dallas; Frisco, Texas), Sydney Zandi (Penn Fusion; West Chester, Penn.)

Forwards: Theresa Boade (Colorado Rush; Castle Rock, Colo.), Jordan Brewster (Internationals SC; North Canton, Ohio), Emina Ekic (Javanon FC; Fairdale, Ky.), Wrenne French (Tennessee SC; Franklin, Tenn.), Cecilia Gee (Stanford; Orinda, Calif.), Tziarra King (N.C. State; Sicklerville, N.J.), Cameron Murtha (Bethesda SC; Kensington, Md.)

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  • AlexH

    Sounds like a real nail biter of a game that.

    • guest

      What percentage of the kids named to these u19 and u20 rosters are repeats from last year’s failed youth WC campaigns? And I don’t mean failed by the results, although they also weren’t great. I mean failed by the pathetic technical and tactical development and awareness displayed during these games. When compared even to the Mexican, many of whom were dual citizens and available to the USYNTs, they paled in performance comparison to the ROW. Come on guys this is a very big country. You didn’t get it right before; let’s see what some new faces can do. Bumping 16 YO players to the full national team camps is not convincing anyone with any soccer knowlege who watrhced these games that your youth development programs have been successful and save face for the YNT coaches you chose to elevate instead of fire.

      Don’t leave the late bloomers waiting by the curb.Open you mind to the fact that teenagers actually develop (physically and mentally) at different rates- I know that may be an earth shattering revelation to you… Oh, and then once your eyes are open, give them a real chance to be able to break into these long standing camp cliques or better yet, be the adults in the event and actively integrate new players into your “system” (do you have one?).

      There is also too much emphasis placed on lineages. Who cares that a kid’s dad was a professional pointy ball? Makes a great story though and it’s all about the perceptions and press isn’t it? Can’t wait to see how some of these kids fare in college.

      Why do you think every year there are college teams that rise up in RPI with “unranked” (dont get me started on tds) recruiting classes? Because there are plenty of kids who are YNT never beens or once and dones who prove to be more impactful than those who are selected over and over again without regard to their actual performances.

      Maybe some child and adolescent development classes would be helpful in improving our past youth developmental success? Maybe some counseling so that selectors feel the sense of accomplishment when they identify a late bloomer and when they decide a previous kid isn’t developing fast enough to maintain constant invitations. Mix it up a lot. Keep the cliques from forming. Keep them all on an even playing field during camps. Keep play time at scrimmages and events equal in non WC years or in younger age groups so that all can equally be evaluated. Some may not realize that even at camps some kids see very limited or no minutes during scrimmages and are never asked back. How is evaluation occurring? Even during training passing patterns are so stress, that no kid can be evaluated as to her true technical or tactical level. Value technical, tactical AND athletic acumen. Develop a style of play and choose those players for each position with the balance of the three qualities that complement your team.

      Devalue the mental side is children and adolescents. Be cautious and conscientious in evaluating the physical in kids less than 17. The physical forms submitted to the USSF for each camper are extensive. Include pubertal status and a growth curve in those forms so that physical developmental status can be well estimated. A kid who is homesick from the opposite coast might need a little more support at 15 during her first camp that a repeat camper from the same side of the country. A kid who’s passion is seen as oppositional may seem a “problem” at 16, but at 20 may channel that passion into a learning curve steeper than her more even tempered teammate. In general focus on identifying each adolescent player’s ceiling (hard) rather than current level (easy) so that we may end up more investing our national development resources.

      • #1Fan

        Been saying similar for a while now. Very few care. Several of the kids already know their schedule up to a year in advance Camp-wise. Whomever decides that these are the chosen ones does it pretty early on the basis of stuff that is not obvious and they rarely change direction until very late in the process.

        • guest

          Interesting that no one cares especially after the performances tis fall. Oh, but i guess they really did succeed because we have bumped a slew of 16 year olds up to the full team since that was their jibs right to prepare a select few for the FWNT which apparently they did. Except many of those selected did not even stand out at their own age. I guess they were held back by the mediocrity with which they were surrounded.

          • #1Fan

            i agree with you. Youth is the pipeline. There is a lack of diversity of opinion and selection that should be of great concern. Therre are very few dissenting voices in the USSF camp.

  • Ashley C

    -Too bad PSG screwed up royally with that game sheet debacle and sanction. Would have been nice to see them win it for once.

    -I’d like to see McLeod back with the NT but she will have to work pretty hard considering the keepers in front of her. She’s always been a great keeper and one of my favorites so I’d like to see her return.

    -Hard for the women’s game to grow and continue to move forward when FIFA doesn’t seem to care. Pretty embarrassing stuff and it’s so disappointing Dodd didn’t win. It would have been a chance to see some changes happen.

    • Tom F

      PSG is 8 points behind Lyon & only in 3rd place in the French League(Montepelier is currently in 2nd). They can makeup all their disappointments this season when they take on Lyon in the Champions League final later on this month

      • Ashley C

        lol I follow D1 as much as I follow NWSL. It’s weird how people here reiterate things some posters clearly already know.

        • DNG

          Do you watch all of the matches? I’ve found it difficult to watch many of the matches and have only really found streams for the top half matches against one another.

        • Steglitz49

          Montpellier has managed to do well in spite of losing Sofia Jakobson to an ACL-tear. Sofia was leading the goalscoring league at the time and, worse, she will miss Euro-17.

    • Ethan

      It is too bad that PSG screwed up, but can we really say that the points they dropped later happened because of the atmosphere following the sanction? I think Lyon still would have probably won the title.

      • kernel_thai

        The irony is PSG could beat Lyon twice in D1 and still not get the UWCL berth for next year.

        • Steglitz49

          Why is that ironic?

      • Ashley C

        Yes? They knew it was a major screw up and reflected in their effort from the games I watched. Lair put all his focus into CL after.

  • le guest

    “Alex Morgan led Lyon to victory” netting 2 goals of 9 against a team without a winning record that can’t score on you while your already up by 2 isn’t exactly leading to victory

    the news is that this is the first time morgan played 90 in a league match. the only times she’s not been subbed have been for champions league (where she still hasn’t scored) and french cup (where she scored against another loser in rodez and a henin team not even in d2 anymore)

    if she doesnt score on psg in uwcl, coupe, or their one league match left she won’t even have an opportunity to score on a d2 or higher team with a winning record while in france

    • Ethan

      Well technically speaking, Morgan forced the own goal that opened the scoring, and she provided a great through ball for Hegerberg’s first that gave Lyon a two goal lead. So, she was at the heart of that “already up by 2”.

      I do get the gist of your comment, and Morgan will certainly be looking to grab multiple goals in the three matches against PSG. However, she contributed to both goals against Wolfsburg and to Marozsan’s goal against Manchester City, and she should have won a penalty against Bardsley in the second leg. So she’s still made a difference despite not scoring.

      • kernel_thai

        Lyon didn’t need Morgan Their chances of winning the treble probably didn’t rise or fall a hair by adding her. That said, I have to give Morgan a ton of credit. She easily could have come in and upset the balance of a good team just as easily as she could have had an big impact. That didn’t happen. She made an effort to fit in, do what was needed and not rock the boat over her minutes or her role. if Lyon had needed her to win D1 or salvage their UWCL campaign, it would be much easier to criticize her. If Morgan gets more goals and ELS9 & Hegerberg get less I don’t see the difference. If they beat bottom of the table teams 13-0 instead of 9-0 I don’t see the difference. Mostly, if u watch the clips, this is as happy as Ive seen Morgan in a while, and that in itself was probably worth it.

        • guest

          Happy – and collecting 25K Euro’s a month

        • sudeep das

          It was clear from the start that they took her on for lots of PR apart from her skills

          • guest

            half soccer player half corporate spokeswoman.

          • sudeep das

            that justifies her 300k salary I guess

          • Steglitz49

            300k Euros which is what when we need to multiply with the Macron.

          • sudeep das

            True – it is already on an upswing

        • Reality

          It’s great for Morgan that she is happy playing in France on the totally dominant Lyon. However, I’m sure that Orlando is not that happy nor is the NWSL benefiting from her absence. As to whether her experience playing with Lyon will benefit the USWNT remains to be seen. Aulas will try to persuade her to stay on. It will be interesting to see where her priorities lie.

          • kernel_thai

            Not really sure it impacts Orlando as much as we thought it would. The Marta bump negated any losses at the gate from Morgan’s absence and it is the defense that has been hurting the Pride and Morgan can’t fix that. I guess the positive is a second bump with the return of Morgan as the Marta buzz withdraws. And if M & M do turn the tide Morgan goes from the missing player to the cavalry.

          • Reality

            As far as Orlando is concerned, Marta can help them to hold the fort so to speak. But they are 0-2-2 with 5 games to go before Morgan returns. If they don’t win some games before then, they will be in such a hole that it might be Custer’s last stand in regard to the playoffs especially if, as you say, they don’t get their defensive problems sorted out.

          • Steglitz49

            At least the fans get to enjoy Marta and seeing that there is no relegation from the NWSL, it does not matter whether you finish 5th or last. Indeed, finishing last has its advantages in getting first dibs in the draft.

          • kernel_thai

            I have a hard time feeling sorry for the owners in these type of situations. When u sell ur soul to the devil u can’t be too surprised when he collects. If Orlando had control of Morgan contract instead of USSF I doubt very much she is playing in France right now. U notice how Portland had no remorse about pulling Henry back from PSG.

          • Reality

            I have no sympathy for the owners whatsoever. They acceded to Morgan’s request to be with her future husband and failed to negotiate her ongoing status with the team. My concern is with the players who thought they were getting a star who could lead the team to victory and with the fans, not only in Orlando but around the league, who were looking forward to seeing Morgan on the pitch.

          • kernel_thai

            Again, there r numerous factors that have caused this…many on the NT level. I don’t believe Morgan is there for the money tho she is certainly well compensated. Morgan is in France because she didn’t have to chose one or the other and that’s on the owners. Players r enamored with UWCL because there is still no FIFA Woman’s Cub Championship. If there was real world club championship, the allure of UWCL would be negated and marquee US players would be trying to get their NWSL team to the championship not traveling to Europe.

          • Reality

            I agree that Morgan is in France to win the UWCL. She will have the additional bonus of playing with one of the best clubs in the world. However, since the competition, compared to the NWSL, is relatively poor in the French leagues outside of PSG and Montpellier , she will not gain too much competitively. Hopefully, she gain some added skills, confidence and, of course the prestige of the UCWL.

          • kernel_thai

            I agree that the jury is still out on whether this move has improved Morgan’s game. Ellis, in her infinite wisdom has apparently moved Morgan to a bench role so it will be harder for those us not at practice to see if much has changed. Perhaps we’ll be able to see some of this in the way Morgan plays with Marta.

          • Reality

            I think she will get more out of playing with Marta at Orlando in the NWSL than she is getting with Lyon in the Feminine Division 1.

          • Steglitz49

            Alex did not know that Marta would come to Orlando when she joined Lyon.

            Alex has already played with Marta or, more accurately, been in the same team as Marta but in those days it was Sinclair who played the most, not Alex.

          • HOFCToDi

            I have never read such shite in all my life.

          • Steglitz49

            Alex has already proven that she has.

          • Steglitz49

            Alex will play in the ladies Champions League final on June 1st.

            Alex played loyally in the NWSL during its first 4 seasons unlike other players we might mention.

        • Guest

          She’s happy because she doesn’t have any real pressure there. She has gotten plenty of rest on the bench against the better teams they’ve played and has only been scoring against teams that aren’t even really professional level teams. She can’t perform well under the pressure of good teams every weekend in the NWSL.

          • kernel_thai

            No, I don’t agree. She has always been a good pressure player and has the big goals to prove it. Where she has failed has been in taking over the starring role and carrying the team the way Wambach took over for Hamm. IMO trying too hard to be that player has hurt her career. She forces a lot of shots because she seems to feel she has too. While Lloyd seems to relish being “the one” Morgan’s comfort zone seems to be a gear in the machine. I do agree that she puts a lot of pressure on herself instead of letting the game come to her.

          • Steglitz49

            Alex’s injuries in 2014 interrupted that flow in her career development. Also, she may not be a natural leader.

          • kernel_thai

            And as in every situation possible I throw a lot of this on Ellis. Before the injuries Morgan thrived in a two forward system. As the Wambach decline became apparent Morgan should have been partnered with Press. I believe both players would have thrived having the other to lean on instead of exposing both player insecurities the way the situation was handled. Instead Press was relegated to a lesser role and Morgan left alone on the top of the attack. Part of being the coach is getting the best out of ur players. Ellis has no feel for anything except her own hopeful vision of x’s and o’s.

          • #1Fan

            Again , I dont agree. Morgan in a 2 needs a PHYSICAL presence. I think that pairing would fail.

          • kernel_thai

            Understand ur point but Morgan doesn’t need a physical presence (tho it’s one way to do it) nor is she a physical presence. What Morgan needs is someone to occupy the defense so she has space to operate. Press is perfect for that tho in a different way than Wambach. U simply can’t stop her from getting her shot with one player. Press also benefits because she doesn’t need space so if u shift the defense to deny Morgan room, Press will get shots. The reason Lloyd doesn’t work against good teams who can defend is despite being physical, u can guard her 1v.1 allowing the defense to put numbers on the other attacker.

          • #1Fan

            We don’t see Press the same way. All good.

          • DNG

            Not sure how you see Press but I see her as a player who would benefit from a physical presence in the box or highly mobile ones around her. I think she needs player/s to create the space in the box for her to get her shots off. I think she’s better at finishing off chances than creating them even though she’s shown some ability there too. I’d like to see her in a 3 up top with some slashers and creators around her. The team needs to get the three in the middle right though. They can’t afford for the center to be a closed avenue like it has been.

          • #1Fan

            Similar to you. I think both players would benefit from a more physical target type.

          • DNG

            Not sure I’d start Press if we went with a more physical CF like Horan though. I’d prefer the team to try and use Morgan Brian there first. I’m not sure Press would be as good overall playing off Horan as Brian would although she’d probably score more goals. I would try Press up top in more of a 433 with Brian playing just underneath.

          • #1Fan

            i think the team I drafted last week had no Press and no Morgan. 🙂

          • DNG

            I think I’d feel differently about Press if she was going to be 26 in the next WC cycle instead of 30. I would have probably tried to build the last WC squad around her nose for goal.

          • Reality

            “I think she’s better at finishing off chances than creating them even though she’s shown some ability there too.”

            Wow! Press is probably the best on the team in creating chances. And Morgan is certainly a physical presence in the box. So they can play off each other in that way. We don’t need to regress to a Wambachian target forward.

          • DNG

            We are just going to have to agree to disagree here I don’t think Press is the best on the team at creating chances and AM while physical for her size is nowhere close to a dominating physical player that bullies CBs around in the penalty area.

          • Reality

            I think where we disagree is the type of offense that should be implemented. I don’t see the NT going back in time to a physical target forward game. We are finally moving toward a balance of possession and direct in the offense with players that have higher skill levels. However, Lloyd’s presence still drags us back and impedes this progression.

          • DNG

            Horan is not just some physical target forward there to get on a head on crosses. She’s just as good if not better with her feet than Press and a better combination player. It would be a step forward not a step backwards. Lloyd and Wambach are in no way comparable. My only concern is goal output since she hasn’t played as a center forward in over a year now.

          • Reality

            I know you like Horan, but she is not on Press’s level in speed and dexterity of ball handling. She doesn’t quite fit anywhere because she lacks both speed and quickness.

          • DNG

            Note I’m not actually comparing Horan to him but it demonstrates some of my issues with your logic. Do you think Ibra is less of a striker because he lack quickness and speed?

          • Reality

            I think that the best players possess skills, speed, quickness, and good judgement among other qualities. They are the best because it is rare to see all these qualities in any one individual. So any given player’s strengths are best showcased with a team that suits their outstanding attributes.

          • DNG

            You didn’t really answer my question. Is Zlatan Ibrahimovich less of a player because he isn’t fast or quick? Strength is also a key attribute for center forwards. Horan possesses loads of skill. She can hold up, she can distribute, she’s comfortable on the ball, she can combine in tight spaces, She can attack crosses in the air or on the ground, can create space for herself with her strength and has a good first touch.

          • Reality

            I did answer your question insofar as Horan’s qualities, such as they are, do not measure up to other players on the team. While she is undoubtedly gifted, her performance on both the NT and the NWSL has not been outstanding. I can understand where you would like to see her as a target forward but, as I said before, we have a different vision of where the team should be going for the future.

          • DNG

            That isn’t addressing my overall point about your view on strikers and them needing to be quick and fast. I think your definition of essential skills of the position is flawed.

            That’s your opinion on her as a player it’s fine we disagree. I think her performance with the Thorns has been great. She’s 22 and has been a pro for 4 years. She has plenty of experience.

          • Reality

            I wasn’t questioning Horan’s experience. And I did refer to multiple qualities for a striker “…skills, speed, quickness, and good judgement among other qualities.”

          • #1Fan

            Apologies – as I read what you write. I respond. I then see teh DNG has essentially said the same thing I would.

            I think your vision of strikers is a bit singular. The game is filled with physical players for whom speed is not a major asset.

            Even Ronaldo ( NOW) has totally de-emphasized speed ( becasue he no longer has it) to become the best goal scoring #9 in the game. Diego Costa, Giroud, Higuain, Ibra the list goes on.

            A player who can receive the ball in tight spaces, hold it up and allow other players the time to join attacks is a great and progressive tool. The strength to create space in the box or to occupy defenders centrally is also vital .

          • Reality

            Both you and DNG pick out speed as if it was the only point I was making about this. I can assure you that I don’t think it is the only criteria nor the most important one. It is a quality that adds to the potential for a forward to disrupt the defense.

            The real issue where we are in disagreement is whether the NT should utilize Horan as a centerpiece of the front line. While I think that she has distinguished herself at PSG in this capacity, that was against primarily tomato can opponents. She does have good skills that you mention, but I don’t think that is sufficient justification for the NT to move toward a target forward offense when we already have forwards that have these same skills in equal or greater degree plus additional attributes that Horan does not possess.

            As I mentioned in other comments, I think it is a regression to move back to a target forward offense which was essentially one dimensional. We have players now in their prime plus young players coming up who can implement a more diverse and disruptive offense.

            I think that a front line of Morgan and Press who are now in their prime at 28 should be given full opportunity to flourish so that by the time the next cycle arrives, the offense will be fully integrated with them. The younger players will gain experience in the meantime so that they will be ready to assume the mantle of leadership afterwards.

            Of course, the constant problem is that Ellis does not seem to know how to best employ this talent to take full advantage of the potential.

          • #1Fan

            I dont think i have mentioned Horan at all in this discussion. I dont think Press/ Morgan works well, thats all . On that we can and do disagree

            If you want to talk Horan, its interesting that you think other forwards posses her strengths .I dont think any of them do.

            I also think your view that a target player = regression is , frankly ludicrous.

          • Reality

            We can certainly disagree in our opinions since that is what this forum is all about in terms of sharing our points of view. I don’t think it is appropriate to disparage another person’s opinion.

          • #1Fan

            if you think

            your view that a target player = regression is , frankly ludicrous.

            Is disparaging, then i apologize, but I dont think it is.

            There are physical players playing in progressive systems all over the world. It comes down to the qualities said players have. If you think using Horan = regression then thats fine. thats an opinion on a specific player and your evaluation. The comment you made about physical/target sounded systemic.

          • Reality

            I have no objection in principle to the utilization of a target forward in a well balanced offensive strategy. However, I think as specifically regards the NT, based on past history, there would be a danger in making that the primary modality in the offense which would render it ineffective as opposed to a balanced attack.

          • DNG

            The reason I would like to use Horan at the 9 is because I think she’d make the offense more versatile not less. You can play direct or indirect with her at the 9. You can surround her with fast players that can counter and she’ll hold up the ball long enough to release them. I just don’t see the same issues you do and it doesn’t have to be Horan.

          • Reality

            I think the combination of Morgan and Press is a superior solution to Horan insofar as they can do all that she does and more.

          • #1Fan

            Really not trying to beat a dead horse. They all have strengths and weaknesses, but i dont see how you think they can replicate Horans strengths ?

          • Reality

            I think the ASPCA has already been alerted. We disagree here and unfortunately , I don’t see Ellis making the moves that will put either of our propositions to the test.

          • DNG

            “they can do all that she does and more.”

            I think this is the crux of our disagreement. I don’t agree with your POV here at all. Both Morgan and Press are, by comparison, poor hold up players and combination players. I don’t think they can do what Horan can do and more but let’s agree to disagree here as I don’t think we can take this any further.

          • Reality

            Horan’s holding up play and combination qualities have served her well in the mid-field. That is where she has been utilized to good effect. However, she suffers in comparison to other qualities that both Morgan and Press possess as forwards. That being said, we could reiterate the same points over and over. Quite simply, as you say, we agree to disagree.

          • DNG

            They’d be a lot better in the A3. Typically you do not want central midfield players to hold the ball too long. They can be outnumbered and easily trapped by a skilled defensive team. Her hold up play would be best utilized when she is isolated up top and the team is looking too transition around her or in the A3 where a loss in possession will likely not lead to a dangerous counter going the other way. Her combination play in the A3 is something I think the team is missing whenever they start any of the other forwards and Lloyd. What are all these other qualities you think Horan doesn’t have if you don’t mind my asking?

          • #1Fan

            vs Sweden – how nice would it have been to be able to “post her up” deep in the Swedish half and play combination soccer from there? Instead of trying to get in behind a deep lying defense and inviting the counter.

          • DNG

            I think a smart tactical coach makes that sub at halftime if they somehow didn’t know what Sweden was going to do before the match. Instead she got to play six minutes which was less than the paltry amount Press had in that match.

          • Reality

            I thought we agreed to disagree. But since you insist, I think that both Morgan and Press can play the transitional counter game more effectively. Moreover, both have overall superior shooting skills and technique. Press has better ball handling skills and is no slouch at holding up when necessary. Both Morgan and Press are capable of making excellent combinations and that is why I think they would make a good team in the box in disrupting the defense. No team can cover them both simultaneously without paying a grievous penalty.

            In short, while Horan may be good at holding up and combinations, these skills are better suited to the mid-field than to the forward position where she is lacking in comparison to Morgan and Press.

          • DNG

            My curiosity got the best of me I’m afraid.

            In a lone forward role I just don’t see Press capable of providing remotely similar hold up play. She can hold onto the ball by dribbling into space and away from defenders but physically holding off strong defenders is not something she can do. She might not have the pace to be a great counter attacker herself but her hold up ability does allow others to get beyond her in a way I don’t think Morgan or Press can replicate. I don’t think there is a huge difference in shooting ability that would matter too much at the 9. Not really worried about long range shots from this position. Clever movement and strength can be just as useful to getting away shot.

            “Morgan and Press are capable of making excellent combinations”

            We see these two players together very differently.

            Thanks for your views. I have a better understanding now of where you’re coming from even if I disagree with most of them.

          • Reality

            At the risk of complicating this discussion further, I don’t advocate the lone forward strategy but rather a two forward setup. But I think we have both explained our points of view enough to conclude that we do not agree on this subject. Thank you for sharing as it has increased my understanding of a different approach.

          • DNG

            I also think that Press having better ball handling skills is a bit of a stretch. I think Horan is just as good handling the ball in confined spaces as Press. Press may be better at dribbling in space but that’s not really Horan’s game. Both are miles better than Morgan.

          • Reality

            No one matches Press in creating and getting off quick shots. This is invaluable in the crowded area of the box.

          • #1Fan

            That is a comment on existing ( and historic) personnel and coaching. .

          • Reality

            Your point is?

          • #1Fan

            Pretty clear. That your PoV seems to have nothing to do with the tactical +/- . If you want Ellis out. OK . If you dont rate Lloyd, fine.

            But the I think several of the current personnel would be enhanced with a more physical, technical , ball playing presence in the final 3rd AND I think we have too many similar attacking players bringing relatively similar things.

          • Reality

            As I said, I don’t think Morgan and Press are so much similar as complementary. Someone like Horan (unless you’re thinking of someone else) may bring a more physical presence into the box, but I don’t think that this is a necessarily an improvement if she is not as capable a forward in general.

          • htm222

            I’m not sure how a thirtysomething Press/Morgan will be in their prime as a combination leading into 2019/2020. Press will probably hold up better than Morgan, who reached her prime at 22 it seems. Press seems to be playing a lot more physical now and is getting into more challenges, so I don’t think building around any player is a good idea.

          • Reality

            Your point is well taken re: Morgan’s injury proneness. Being 30 years old can be problematical for some players while others do very well. However, at present, Press and Morgan are our two best forwards. Ellis should finally give them a fair trial while continuing to develop the younger players. If it turns out that they don’t hold up through 2020, then the next generation will get their opportunity.

          • DNG

            As for her performance on the NT. You have been quick to always point out how Press was consistently misused by coaches who decided to play her on the wing. I think placing Horan at the 6/8(what ever ellis wants to call her pivots) is an even more flagrant misuse of a player than Press on the wing ever was.

          • Reality

            I agree that Ellis has also used Horan inappropriately. However, I think that Ellis is not interested in a target forward. Quite frankly, I’m not sure what kind of forward she favors…

          • #1Fan

            Speed is not essential to be a great player.

          • Not Steg

            The JE system is a personality disorder. So much talk about possession and “technical” game, and then when the going gets tough, it’s reversion to kick and run so Lloyd can blast one in from 25 yds out.

          • #1Fan

            i dont get your point here at all. A physical forward presence =/= direct or a backwards move. Nor does a physical prescence have to = no skill.

            The Lloyd issue is a totally separate one.

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press sucks.

          • DNG

            I don’t see the Press Morgan combo working out the way you do. Morgan mostly draws multiple players in the transition phase of the attack. Once things are settled she’s a rather easy mark. I don’t think that’s going to create the space for Press that she needs to operate. Lloyd doesn’t work for a few reasons:

            1. She’s slow and an easy mark at this point in her career
            2. She doesn’t move the ball quickly or effectively when pressured
            3. Her technique and vision in the hole just aren’t very good.

          • kernel_thai

            I agree that Morgan is best on the move but she can also do quick combinations in the box moving towards goal. Morgan is least effective when not facing goal

          • Steglitz49

            Hear hear!

          • DNG

            It’s kind of funny how Ellis doesn’t seem to agree with us about this with regards to Morgan. All we seem to get up top is pace and some more pace.

          • #1Fan

            Morgan would not start for me if I pick the team. But thats irrelevant

          • HOFCToDi

            You stupidity is unparalleled.

          • kernel_thai

            The most recent front pairing was Dunn/Lloyd

          • Not Steg Troll

            JE has never cared for the center of the pitch. With her it’s all about the flanks. The whole roster, except for GK, is chosen for flank pace and ability.

          • Reality

            Thanks to Ellis’s poor judgement, a huge opportunity was lost there for Morgan, for Press and for the USWNT. Morgan’s physicality and Press’s finesse would complement each other quite nicely if they had ever been given a real opportunity to play together and sync their games. Instead, both of them were misused by Ellis, Morgan as a lone forward and Press as a flanker / sub / sometime forward. The result was that Lloyd managed to wiggle her way up front to the ultimate detriment of the team

          • Steglitz49

            It was not a lost opportunity because there was no opportunity. It is such an obvious combo that the only reason it has not been tried in a match is that it does not work in practice games.

            Alex needs a player to cross to who can reliably put those passes into the back of the net. Alex would also prefer someone with an aerial game to cross to.

            Where is that forward? There must be one in the USA somewhere lurking in the under growth and among the pond life.

          • DNG

            I’m not sure I agree. I think they have shown that they can play together without it being a disaster and sometimes even look good. However, I think both players would be much more maximized in completely different types of offenses. Morgan in mostly transitional offense, and Press at the center of more fluid and creative players(possibly a true ST too) around her. I think the team needs to pick a direction and stick with it.

          • Reality

            I don’t think that Morgan’s and Press’s styles of play are mutually exclusive. Quite the opposite. Playing together on the pitch presents the opposing team with multiple threats that would cause breakdowns in defense that can be exploited.

            Additionally, Press, while not as physical as Morgan, can also play transitional offense with her quickness while Morgan is skilled at producing assists in the box.

            I don’t think that the team should limit itself to one style of offense in the run of play.

          • #1Fan

            I agree in the run of play, however you do pick players who complement each other. I dont think they do. No big deal either way. Happy to be proved wrong

          • DNG

            I thought they were fine in the second friendly against Japan last year but that was one against a team that has a very difficult time covering Morgan’s direct runs when they push players forward. Heck I think Heath got in behind their defense in that match.

          • Reality

            The only way you can be proved right or wrong is for Ellis to actually make a concerted effort to partner them. Lloyd is blocking that right now as did Wambach before.

          • DNG

            As #1Fan says, I don’t think they really complement one another. Press can fill in reasonably well as a CAM and Morgan has been okay as a lone striker but neither are really being put in their optimal positions to succeed and it could be argued that different combinations of different players can provide better results.

          • Reality

            IMO, their optimal positions to succeed would be both playing as forwards together. They have the most experience and skills in that capacity of anyone else on the team.

          • DNG

            I don’t care much about experience. I care more about who can help the team win while playing a respectable style of football. If that’s a 16 year old ready for the full team so be it.

          • Reality

            I think that experience is invaluable and 16 year olds don’t have it which means that they lack development in their skills and judgement.

          • DNG

            I don’t agree. With the exception of center backs I think we overrate experience quite a bit. It’s been used as a tool to keep other from getting a fair shot to make this team.

          • Reality

            You are being rhetorical in taking an argument to an extreme conclusion. There should be a balance between talent and experience and talent cannot be developed without experience. That is why athletes reach their prime when they have both together.

          • DNG

            Experience should not supersede talent. How is a player going to gather experience when there are others in front of them preventing that from happening?

          • Reality

            I believe I said there should be a balance between the two to create an optimum situation. Your inference of the logjam on the NT is another discussion.

          • kernel_thai

            If experience isn’t a key, why do the US youth teams constantly under achieve? Isn’t the biggest factor between our U20 and say a European team the experience their players have playing ln pro leagues at a younger age?

          • DNG

            It may be one but I think there are other factors that are more important. The nature of the game in the win at all costs ECNL environments and pay to play model are bigger issues in my opinion.

          • #1Fan

            No . Its more the attrition that occurs in other nations from u17 to u20 to Full. Many of the countries who challenge at youth level do not have players who can continue to indulge in a life that offers no real financial reward.

          • kernel_thai

            U either pick ur players and tailor a simple system that they can all fit into or u pick ur system and then bring in the players who have the skills to make it work. Ellis still believes that any group of players can play well in any system

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press sucks.

          • WTF

            Hat trick for Lloyd in the final of the 2015 WC suggests you are totally wrong.

          • Reality

            That isolated moment in time while dramatic was the worst thing that could have happened to the NT because it cemented Lloyd’s detrimental influence on the team with Ellis.

          • Actual Reality

            Lloyd’s performance in the WC is historical fact. Press’ influence on the team is speculation.

          • DNG

            “historical fact”

            You’re right and since her good performances against top teams are nothing more than fond memories from over a year ago it’s time to move on.

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press has no fond memories.

            Christen Press
            2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
            16 Jun 2015
            USA 1 NGA 0
            Minutes Played 0

            resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/65/00/60/eng_31_0616_nga-usa_fulltime.pdf

            Christen Press was BENCHED!

            Christen Press
            2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
            30 Jun 2015
            USA 2 GER 0
            Minutes Played 0

            resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/65/52/49/eng_49_0630_usa-ger_fulltime.pdf

            Christen Press was BENCHED!

            Christen Press
            2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
            05 Jul 2015
            USA 5 JPN 2
            Minutes Played 0

            resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/66/12/93/eng_52_0705_usa-jpn_fulltime.pdf

            Christen Press was BENCHED!

            Christen Press
            International Women’s Friendly
            21 Oct 2015
            USA 1 BRA 1
            Minutes Played 0

            foxsports.com/soccer/boxscore?id=24140

            Christen Press was BENCHED!

            Christen Press
            International Women’s Friendly
            25 Oct 2015
            USA 3 BRA 1
            Minutes Played 0

            foxsports.com/soccer/boxscore?id=24141

            Christen Press was BENCHED!

            Nevermind Christen Press started eleven of the first twelve matches for the USWNT in calendar year 2015.

            ussoccer.com/womens-national-team/lineups/2015-lineups

            http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/ROFLMAO.png

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press has no fond memories.

            Christen Press
            09 Aug 2016
            2016 Rio Olympics
            USA 2 COL 2
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 4, Shots on Goal 1
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 0, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            Christen Press
            12 Aug 2016
            2016 Rio Olympics
            USA 1 SWE 1
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 2, Shots on Goal 0
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            Christen Press
            August 2016
            2016 Rio Olympics
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 6, Shots on Goal 1
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82m0nF66dFo

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press has no fond memories.

            Christen Press
            2016 SheBelieves Cup
            Goals 0, Assists 0

            Christen Press
            2017 SheBelieves Cup
            Goals 0, Assists 0

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press has no fond memories.

            Christen Press
            August 2016
            2016 Rio Olympics
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 6, Shots on Goal 1

            Christen Press was even worse at the recent international women’s friendlies than at the 2016 Rio Olympics.

            Christen Press
            6 Apr 2017
            International Women’s Friendly
            USA 4 RUS 0
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 5, Shots on Goal 0

            foxsports.com/soccer/boxscore?id=34687

            Christen Press
            9 Apr 2017
            International Women’s Friendly
            USA 5 RUS 1
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 2, Shots on Goal 1

            foxsports.com/soccer/boxscore?id=34688

            Christen Press
            April 2017
            International Women’s Friendlies
            USA vs RUS
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 7, Shots on Goal 1

            http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/ROFLMAO.png

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press has no fond memories.

            Christen Press
            August 2016
            2016 Rio Olympics
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 6, Shots on Goal 1

            Christen Press was even worse at the recent international women’s friendlies than at the 2016 Rio Olympics.

            Christen Press
            6 Apr 2017
            International Women’s Friendly
            USA 4 RUS 0
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 5, Shots on Goal 0

            foxsports.com/soccer/boxscore?id=34687

            Christen Press
            9 Apr 2017
            International Women’s Friendly
            USA 5 RUS 1
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 2, Shots on Goal 1

            foxsports.com/soccer/boxscore?id=34688

            Christen Press
            April 2017
            International Women’s Friendlies
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 7, Shots on Goal 1

            http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/ROFLMAO.png

          • Reality

            Lloyd’s overall detrimental influence on the team is a proven fact which overshadows her 15″ of fame.

          • guest

            I’ve still seen nothing from press on the national team that demands a starting position. She doesn’t perform when it really matters, despite all the chances she’s been given. Lloyd, Morgan, Dunn, hell even Pugh have made a difference when needed.

          • Reality

            I don’t agree with the premises of your argument.

          • HOFCToDi

            That’s because you are a clueless moron.

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press
            International Women’s Friendly
            2 Jun 2016
            USA 3 JPN 3
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 2, Shots on Goal 0

            foxsports.com/soccer/boxscore?id=26754

            Christen Press
            International Women’s Friendly
            5 Jun 2016
            USA 2 JPN 0
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 2, Shots on Goal 1

            foxsports.com/soccer/boxscore?id=26862

            Christen Press
            International Women’s Friendly
            9 Jul 2016
            USA 1 RSA 0
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 2, Shots on Goal 0

            foxsports.com/soccer/boxscore?id=26928

            Christen Press
            2016 Rio Olympics
            09 Aug 2016
            USA 2 COL 2
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 4, Shots on Goal 1
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 0, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            Christen Press
            2016 Rio Olympics
            12 Aug 2016
            USA 1 SWE 1
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 2, Shots on Goal 0
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            Christen Press
            International Women’s Friendly
            18 Sep 2016
            USA 3 NED 1
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 2, Shots on Goal 0

            foxsports.com/soccer/boxscore?id=32516

          • HOFCToDi

            Correct.

          • HOFCToDi

            Press’s overall detrimental influence on the team is a proven fact.

            Christen Press was even worse at the 2016 Summer Olympic Games than at the 2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup:

            Christen Press
            2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
            Goals 1, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 7, Shots on Goal 2
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 0, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            Christen Press
            2016 Summer Olympic Games
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 6, Shots on Goal 1
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

          • HOFCToDi

            Pressie Pooh’s overall influence on the USWNT is nonexistent.

          • HOFCToDi

            You truly are a blithering idiot.

          • Steglitz49

            I have great difficulty seeing a Morgan-Press combo working.

            When all is said and done, the USWNT won WC-15 (admittedly with ladles of help from FIFA) but then bombed out in Brasilia on the Glorious 12th.

          • #1Fan

            not sure I agree. I dont think its trying to be that player at all. Maybe she is just a good player who had a year where everything went i and she was at full fitness?

            Lloyd being the “one” ? in whose mind? If by that you mean continuing to shoot and do things with no fear of the consequences of failing because you know you wont get benched? Then ok I agree. Thats called being a selfish player – US has plenty of those becasue its not usually about working together to get goals. Its about “getting mine” any way I can.

            Gears in machines are very replaceable when they wear out ….And they dont continue to get paid like superstars (That part is not her fault)

          • newsouth

            if the run of play isn’t running downhill, then there will always be pressure. that sounds kind of one dimensional to me. ops we’;ve been talking about that since 2011. when those long balls aren’t raining on opponents…

          • HOFCToDi

            Nobody cares what you think.

      • mockmook

        “I was wrong about Morgan assisting Hegerberg’s first”

        Oh, man.

        It’s mistakes like these that mean we are going to have to let you go. Please, no need for all these tears — you’re really making me uncomfortable — ahh, here comes security to help you collect your things…

  • FawcettFan14

    Wow, 11 straight league titles. What a thrilling league.

    • guest

      nothing is more exciting or unpredictable as euro football. it has been perfected.

    • ted norberto

      Playing against local ladies from local farms is always going to be a thrashing of the wheats.

    • Movement

      An assembled team from BigSoccer.com featuring a bunch of “has-been” soccer players could finish 2nd place in that dooF-ball French league.

    • Tom F

      there’s never been as strong as a team on paper as Lyon’s current lineup, and that includes NT’s. France’s LeSommer & Thomis simply crushed the US at the SBC, Yet their subs on Lyon(if Morgan & Hegerberg start)

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      • sudeep das

        Wish the USWNT coild invite Lyon for a few friendlies. I know this will never happen as there is the issue of prestige involved. It will help the US immensely to play against a team with the best midfield and forward combination possible.

        • Tom F

          I would say Wolfsburg mid/fwd combinations is even better! It’s just they don’t have the phenomenal defensive lineup that Lyon has with Renard, M’Bock, Buchanen. The Wolfies are led Pernille Harder in the middle(who I feel is the #1 AM in the world today, even a tad better than Maro) than like last game, they threw forward young superstars(as compared to Lyons older ones) like Hansen, Wullert & Pajor). It’s been way too much to handle for the rest of the Bundesliga,
          Unfortunately woso club soccer doesn’t have the same popularity as men’s or W national teams play, even though I do believe Lyon or WOB would beat any national team in the world

        • Guest

          It will never happen because the USWNT players make sure their contract says they can only play other National teams. No NWSL all-star teams, no Lyon, etc.

  • newsouth

    so lyon is like the uswnt playing banana republic tomato cans in france. morgan is definitely accustom to that run of play

    • Steglitz49

      Given that Lyon are prepared to fork out 25,000 Euros a month, why should Alex turn down that sort of money?

    • kernel_thai

      Well, the difference is the US is mostly in control of who they play and with the exception of CONCACAF could mostly avoid bad teams. Lyon has no control over the quality of D1 unless u count raiding good young players from lesser teams.

      • Steglitz49

        There is promotion to and relegation from the D1. It used to be 3 teams but recently they reduced it to two teams being sent down.

    • HOFCToDi

      Christen Press only scores against banana republic tomato cans.

      USWNT Career
      FIFA Top 10 Ranked Opponents
      USWNT Goals Scored
      Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 34
      Leroux (DOB 07 May 1990) – 8
      Press (DOB 29 Dec 1988) – 3

      Christen Press is the quintessential international FRAUD.

      4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
      85 caps
      2 head coaches

      #ChristenChasingObscurity

  • Silver Frost

    What was the bribe that Bangladesh paid FIFA operatives to get that seat? Same old story in FIFA. Utter corruption.

  • Guest

    Joke of a league, joke of a game, joke of a player. Must be so rewarding to be part of a beat up on everyone team and league. What had Morgan produced in the NWSL for the last four years even when she was on a dominant team? When she has to battle every weekend, she is a non-factor. What a waste, hope she decides to go back next year as well. What a Joke.

    • Steglitz49

      Jean-Michel Aulas, the CEO of Lyon, changed WoSo forever when he decided to put money into the ladies team. His first big signing was Lotta Schelin, who allegedly cost him $250,000 almost 10 years ago.

      At that time Man Utd closed down their ladies section and soon Chelsea was about to follow suit but John Terry stepped in and rescued Chelsea Ladies. Hard to believe today.

      Aulas can’t be blamed for that in France apart from PSG other male teams have found the interest to support their ladies. In Spain Real Madrid still refuses to have a ladies team but Atletico does and in Barcelona both Barca and Espanyol do, as does the Athletic Club in Bilbao.

    • guest

      Yeah what a joke of a player who has saved the USA’s butt on numerous occasions. Alex is the face of USSoccer for a reason. I don’t think she is what she used to be, but she’s no joke.

      • newsouth

        Still living off of 2011 vapor. Morgan and the USC Reggie Bush factor.

        • HOFCToDi

          Sunday, 21 Feb 2016
          TSG announces CWOQ Best XI, Awards

          concacaf.com/article/tsg-announces-cwoq-best-xi-awards

          http://www.ussoccer.com/~/media/images/wnt/gallery-images/2016/02/160221-wnt-v-can/photo-gallery/160221-wnt-vs-can-photo-gallery19.jpg?h=600&w=786&la=en&hash=BF5ABEEA5BE7034EF13FA4F320F9E7BB8E549331&

          By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

        • HOFCToDi

          Friday, 11 Mar 2016
          Morgan, Solo and the USA Sweep Awards at 2016 SBC

          ussoccer.com/stories/2016/03/11/13/17/160311-wnt-morgan-solo-and-the-usa-sweep-awards-at-2016-shebelieves-cup

          http://www.ussoccer.com/~/media/images/wnt/gallery-images/2016/03/160309-wnt-v-ger/160309-wnt-vs-ger-gallery20.jpg?h=559&w=800&la=en&hash=B1A7B6E0C01C796F4C31CF422F0CC370A4D5CF89&

          By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

        • HOFCToDi

          Christen Press
          09 Aug 2016
          2016 Rio Olympics
          USA 2 COL 2
          Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 4, Shots on Goal 1
          Penalty Kicks Attempted 0, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

          Christen Press
          12 Aug 2016
          2016 Rio Olympics
          USA 1 SWE 1
          Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 2, Shots on Goal 0
          Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

          Christen Press
          August 2016
          2016 Rio Olympics
          Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 6, Shots on Goal 1
          Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82m0nF66dFo

          • FawcettFan14

            Drink!

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press SUCKS!

          • mockmook

            Beep test?

        • HOFCToDi

          Christen Press was even worse at the 2016 Summer Olympic Games than at the 2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup:

          Christen Press
          2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
          Goals 1, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 7, Shots on Goal 2
          Penalty Kicks Attempted 0, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

          Christen Press
          2016 Summer Olympic Games
          Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 6, Shots on Goal 1
          Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

          http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/ROFLMAO.png

          #ChristenChasingObscurity

        • HOFCToDi

          USWNT 2016
          FIFA Top 10 Ranked Opponents
          USWNT Goals Scored
          Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 6
          Lloyd (DOB 16 Jul 1982) – 1
          Horan (DOB 26 May 1994) – 1
          Johnston (DOB 06 Apr 1992) – 1
          Dunn (DOB 03 Jul 1992) – 1
          Mewis (DOB 09 Oct 1992) – 1

          By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

          ussoccer.com/womens-national-team/lineups/2016-lineups

          http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/ROFLMAO.png

          #ChristenChasingObscurity

        • HOFCToDi

          USWNT 2013-2016
          FIFA Top 10 Ranked Opponents
          USWNT Goals Scored
          Morgan – 16 (too many to list)
          Lloyd – 8 (AUS, BRA, GER, JPN x 3, BRA, FRA)
          Leroux – 7 (CAN, BRA x 2, CAN, JPN, CAN, FRA)
          Wambach – 5 (GER, AUS, BRA, PRK x 2)
          Rapinoe – 4 (GER, BRA, AUS x 2)
          Press – 3 (AUS, FRA, AUS)
          Holiday – 2 (AUS, JPN)
          Johnston – 2 (FRA, JPN)
          Dunn – 2 (BRA, ENG)

          #ChristenChasingObscurity

        • HOFCToDi

          USWNT Career
          FIFA Top 10 Ranked Opponents
          USWNT Goals Scored
          Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 34
          Leroux (DOB 07 May 1990) – 8
          Press (DOB 29 Dec 1988) – 3

          Christen Press is the quintessential international FRAUD.

          4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
          85 caps
          2 head coaches

          #ChristenChasingObscurity

        • HOFCToDi

          Back to the chalkboard, junior.

          http://boswellspoetry.wikispaces.com/file/view/dunce_cap.jpg/230268140/826×582/dunce_cap.jpg

          Don’t forget your dunce cap.

          • Guest

            What are you talking about? Tell me what she has produced in the last 4 or so years? NWSL MVP? Nope. , National Team impact player in major tournaments? Nope. A couple of important game goals, not much else. Time for someone else to be given a shot.

          • HOFCToDi

            You’re a blithering idiot.

          • HOFCToDi

            You’re a clueless moron.

            USWNT 2016
            FIFA Top 10 Ranked Opponents
            USWNT Goals Scored
            Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 6
            Lloyd (DOB 16 Jul 1982) – 1
            Horan (DOB 26 May 1994) – 1
            Johnston (DOB 06 Apr 1992) – 1
            Dunn (DOB 03 Jul 1992) – 1
            Mewis (DOB 09 Oct 1992) – 1

            By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

            ussoccer.com/womens-national-team/lineups/2016-lineups

          • HOFCToDi

            You’re a worthless troll.

            Alex Morgan is the only individual in the entire USWNT player pool that has scored a goal against SWE in the last four years.

            ussoccer.com/stories/2016/08/12/19/37/160812-wnt-falls-to-sweden-4-3-in-penalty-shootout-after-1-1-draw-in-2016-olympic-quarterfinals

            ussoccer.com/womens-national-team/tournaments/2015-fifa-womens-world-cup/150612-wntvswe#tab-1

            ussoccer.com/womens-national-team/tournaments/2014-algarve-cup/140307-wnt-v-swe#tab-1

            ussoccer.com/stories/2014/03/17/13/10/wnt-wins-group-b-at-2013-algarve-cup-to-advance-to-final

            As a footnote, Alex Morgan was not available for the 2014 Algarve Cup.

    • HOFCToDi

      You are the joke.

      What has Press produced for the USWNT in the last three tournaments?

      2016 SheBelieves Cup
      2016 Rio Olympics
      2017 SheBelieves Cup

  • guest

    something something Christen Press being suppressed by Morgan and Lloyd blah bllah blah. Why is this still a narrative? Lloyd’s and Morgan’s past results speak for themselves. Press domination is still just a mix of speculation, fan fiction and conspiracy theories.

    • kernel_thai

      I just have problems believing that Press plays differently in NT practice where these decisions r supposedly made than she does in Red Star games.. I also have problems envisioning Lloyd winning the starting forward job based on her practice play.

      • HOFCToDi

        What has Christen Press produced for the USWNT in the last three tournaments?

        2016 SheBelieves Cup
        2016 Rio Olympics
        2017 SheBelieves Cup

        • kernel_thai

          What has Lloyd? Answer…1 goal in the Olympics

          • HOFCToDi

            Carli Lloyd scored two goals (NZL, FRA) at the 2016 Rio Olympics.

            Christen “goose eggs” Press has produced nothing in the last three tournaments. NOTHING!

          • kernel_thai

            Forgot NZ which is the typical team Lloyd scores against these days . So over the ten matches u mentioned, Lloyd had 2 goals in 875 minutes, Press had 0 goals in 365 minutes and Morgan had 4 goals in 700 minutes. Hardly a clear reason why Lloyd currently starts while Press and Morgan occupy the bench.

          • HOFCToDi

            Business as usual
            .
            CBA structure
            USWNT coaching staff

          • kernel_thai

            or….they r doing the exact same thing they did with Wambach leading up to 2015…betting that a player in her mid 30s won’t play like a player in her mid 30s. Logic dictates that if they r determined that Lloyd will still be a goal scoring factor in France, they need to be cutting her minutes not continuing to go to the whip coming out of the gate.

          • HOFCToDi

            So long as Jill Ellis is head coach of the USWNT, you are beating your head against the wall.

  • Reality