Lee: NWSL missed the mark with go90

Allison Lee April 13, 2017 318

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On Tuesday night, after Dan Lauletta tweeted that Verizon may be involved in the live streaming of NWSL matches this season, I went to the Verizon go90 app on my phone and searched for NWSL. Sure enough, there were three of this weekend’s season openers listed in the results. I was already vaguely familiar with the go90 app since I’d used it to stream the FC Barcelona-Real Madrid match to my phone a few months ago, but until Tuesday night, that was the extent of my experience with it. After screenshotting the evidence in the case of deletion (which, of course, happened soon thereafter) and posting it on social media, I began exploring the app, reading the FAQ’s listed on its website and communicating with my newest Twitter follower, the go90help bot.

Then in Wednesday’s media call, Amanda Duffy, the league’s managing director of operations, said that the league was aware of the tweets regarding go90 (hehe) and neither confirmed nor, more importantly, denied that it would be the league’s new streaming platform. So when the NWSL formally announced today that all non-televised matches would be streamed on go90, I was not surprised.

Many fans, though, were, especially those who not around for Tuesday night’s discovery. They took to social media to voice their concerns, frustrations and outright disdain for the decision. Some have gone so far as to say they will only be tuning into the Lifetime Game of the Week broadcasts, if even those matches. Although some of the criticism could be attributed to the notion that many people simply don’t like change and, after four seasons of watching games on YouTube, fans had grown comfortable in that routine, in reality, the cause for concern is much deeper than that.

After having a couple days to fully explore the app and its website, here’s three reasons why I think the NWSL has completely missed the mark with go90.

Better quality, less accessibility

When the NWSL and A+E held the joint press conference announcing the new broadcast deal, one of the biggest takeaways from fans was the news that the games not aired on Lifetime would be streamed “in high definition with a consistent, state-of-the-art approach that will include exclusive new and original digital content for pre-game, halftime and post-game segments.” Gone were the days of streams so blurry it was impossible to distinguish one white- or blue-clad blur from another. No more would fans have to mute their streams to avoid being subjected to blaring sound effects that continued to play on an endless loop throughout the game. To many people, it sounded like a much-needed improvement.

However, what fans didn’t realize was that, in order to have higher quality and more professional streams, the league would be reducing the accessibility of those streams. Instead of being able turn on any smart TV, wi-fi-connected Blu-ray player or gaming console, internet media device, or computer and simply opening YouTube, NWSL fans would now have to rely solely on the go90 app for the vast majority of the league’s matches, an app that is not currently available on the same devices that YouTube has been available on for years. You can’t even go to the app’s homepage to watch games since no live content is currently streamed on the website (and if it is, I can’t find it).

At that previously mentioned press conference, representatives from both organizations touted the fact that Lifetime was already in over 80% of American households. If one of the reasons why the league partnered with A+E was because of the millions of homes that currently had Lifetime, why would they stray from YouTube, a streaming platform that has the same, or greater, reach? Instead, the league has greatly limited the accessibility of the majority of its games and, in doing so, has alienated a large percentage of its fan base.

It’s still free, but at what cost?

As previously mentioned, online matches will only be streamable via the go90 app, which is limited to mobile devices. That means that, while the streams will be available in high definition at no cost, many viewers will have to either be connected to wi-fi or dip into their data plans to watch the games. (Verizon users will not be charged data for using the go90 app, even when not connected to wi-fi.) While some cell phone providers now offer unlimited data plans, heavy fees can be applied once users go over a certain data limit. This could make watching NWSL games extremely expensive for non-Verizon users.

Not only that, but in order to cast the games from a mobile device to a TV, viewers will have to purchase either a Chromecast or Apple TV device. The cheapest version of the Chromecast runs about $35 on average, while the cheapest Apple TV costs about $130 at most big box stores. So fans will either be limited to watching NWSL on smaller screens or forced to shell out money so they can watch it on their TVs. In a league where some teams struggle to get fans to pay $20 to watch a game in person, it’s unreasonable to expect them to pay $35-$120 to watch it at home, even if for an entire season.

International fans have easier access

When it was discovered that this weekend’s NWSL matches were listed on the go90 app, international fans panicked since go90 is only available in the U.S. How would they watch some of their most-beloved players when they don’t have access to go90? Didn’t the league promise that international fans would still have access to free, non-geoblocked streams of live NWSL matches?

Turns out, international fans didn’t need to panic at all. Not only did the league fulfill their promises, they actually gave international fans more accessibility than to domestic fans. While fans in the U.S. struggle to quickly determine how they will access go90 in time for this weekend’s matches, international fans will have a much easier time with it since they will be able to stream matches live from nwslsoccer.com, a streaming option not offered to fans in the U.S. International Apple users will also be able to stream the games live on the forthcoming NWSL mobile app. That gives international fans, at least those with an iPhone or iPad, two options for streaming NWSL matches, while U.S. fans are really only given one.

No offense to international fans, but how on earth does it make sense that a fan in Copenhagen, Denmark will have an easier time watching the American professional women’s soccer league than a fan sitting at home in Chattanooga, Tennessee? When a fan in Boston can’t get tickets to a sold-out match and has no way to tune in at home while a fan in Sydney doesn’t miss a minute, how is that going to truly create a larger fan base in your market?

You can’t grow the game when your fans can’t even watch the game. 

  • Som Termanni

    FWIW

    https://twitter.com/go90help/status/852673201658376193

    https://twitter.com/go90help/status/852719370866438144

    I know this isn’t hard evidence since the games aren’t showing up on the website, but it’s not like you haven’t been running this story into the dirt on pure speculation so far anyway, so why not ride it all the way through to an even remotely optimistic scenario?

  • Som Termanni

    > When a fan in Boston can’t get tickets to a sold-out match and has no way to tune in at home while a fan in Sydney doesn’t miss a minute, how is that going to truly create a larger fan base in your market?

    You guys are getting hella desperate for a rise.

    You do realize that it’ll be easier for a Boston fan to catch a match on a laptop or, even at your most pessimistic, an Android or iOS phone, tablet, or cast wi-fi than someone in Sydney to wake up at 6 a.m. for a 4 p.m. Eastern match, or a Londoner at midnight to 3 a.m. for the 7-10 p.m. Eastern matches?

    • Som Termanni

      Or to put it another way:

      EQZ is hurting the NWSL and this deal more than A+E or go90 right now.

      You all are so hurt over every perceived slight that you’re more willing to puke up misinformation than you are to _do journalism, ask questions, source information, and report facts responsibly_.

      And it’s your garbage that gets shared to folks who don’t know better than to trust this site because these headlines built to play on people’s fears about the deal, and come out right before the people involved can even clarify the missing details that your entire complaint is based upon!

      This whole thing clearly hasn’t been handled well by the league, NWSL Media, A+E, Lifetime, or go90. Rip on that all day–I support it. But quit doing this to people. It’s frustrating and impedes everybody trying to actually watch players play soccer.

      • Som Termanni

        And yeah, people are already quoting your already-debunkable flame-fanning Snopes candidate story to NWSL supporters groups.

        http://imgur.com/a/nF0Qq

      • kernel_thai

        So, great rant. Of course the Go90 website doesn’t actually have any streams for the NWSL listed. Considering these matches r now one day away and the deal has been finalized that’s kind of odd. They r already listed on the Go90 app however. Now if u inquire whether or not u can use the Go90 app on ur laptop, the answer is yes and u r given instruction to download an Android emulator. This is a lot like a sign saying “Free Laundry” and the arrow points to the creek. I see no reason why Verizon would go to the trouble of signing for exclusive US rights for something on their phone app and then show it free on their website. The reason a phone company gives u something free is so u will use the phone.

      • Silver Frost

        Why should I have to buy an iPhone to watch NWSL games on a 2″ screen? Because I cut the cable I won’t be watching NWSL games at all. How can I be a fan if I can’t see the games? The answer is, I won’t.

  • C. J. Frances

    Just a heads up–Go90 is telling people now that you can’t watch live matches on your laptop. I just got an email from them saying its app only. So EQZ is spot on. I don’t think go90 has got all of its wires together yet with the NWSL. The first weekend will be rough for those in U.S. who don’t have a TV or the ability to watch using a casting device. Its gonna be mobile only it looks like

    • reignmaster

      That is so messed up that you can’t just use a laptop…

      • C. J. Frances

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        • mockmook

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    • DNG

      If this turns out to be true, what a mess I can’t believe the only way to watch the other games are from a phone or tablet app. I’m going to see if hola vpn will work. I’ve used it to watch geo-blocked woso matches in the past. I can’t believe they actually made these matches easier for Europeans to watch than Americans.

      • C. J. Frances

        There is always the chance that the NWSL site won’t be geo blocked but i’m not holding my breath on that. I guess this will be final push I need to increase my internet privacy by purchasing a VPN package! But I do hope that the kinks in this system get worked out over the next few weeks. Cause at this point I would pay for a subscription package similar to my WNBA or MLS live packages!

        • DNG

          This all seems very last minute and I am not that optimistic at the moment.

      • Silver Frost

        Hola requires you to make your computer a node in the VPN network. Then risk trafficking illegal content of all sorts.

        • Bruce

          My business is an enterprise client of Hola / Luminati. They do a good job of vetting customers and monitoring clients. Not at all the wild west you would expect.

        • mockmook

          You can get Hola Premium that doesn’t use your computer as a node. However, that’s $5 per month

      • Bruce

        Highly recommend that you buy a Chromecast $35. Super easy to use and quality on TV is awesome. More than an investment to watch soccer – will change the way you view video.

        • DNG

          I plan to. I watch lots of non soccer related things I can use it for as well. More talking about for this weekend since I’m not sure if I’ll find one in time.

        • Breakers fan

          Bruce, I’m someone who is very computer-illiterate. What I have is a desktop computer – Dell – with a tower. I then have a tv (not a Smart TV) with a Comcast/Xfinity subscription. I get the Lifetime channel there. I currently don’t have my computer and TV connected at all. Will a purchase of “a Chromecast” (I’ll have to research what one of those is) enable me to watch the games on my tv? Do I need “a VPN” too? I’m just trying to figure out how I can watch the games either on my tv or on my computer and I’m willing to consider obtaining the 2 things I listed in this post (Chromecast, VPN) to do so. Are one or both of these things physical objects one buys at a store or is one or both things one downloads off of the internet? In the end I’m looking for a step-by-step guide of what I need to do with what I have to watch the games. What I would do if I obtained a Chromecast (and a VPN?) to make it all work.
          Not sure if you or (kernel thai? DNG?) could provide such a guide — but only if/when you have time — but if you could it would be greatly appreciated!!!

          • DNG

            Do you have a smart phone?

          • Breakers fan

            Got one (my first one) a week ago by coincidence. It’s still in the box -still using my flip phone until the money on it runs out — but I could try to get the smart phone up and running, especially if this will solve this issue. It’s an iphone 5.

          • DNG

            We’ll you’re probably going to need it if you don’t plan to watch on a pc/mac with a vpn. A Chromecast is basically a media device made by Google. It’s very small but you plug it into an HDMI out like most other inputs. The remote control is either your smart phone or your computer. Once you link your smart phone to the Chromecast there should be a virtual button at the top right of the go90 application that looks something like the picture below and will allow you to ‘cast’ the games onto a television. If I can find one I will be getting one today or tomorrow and be able to help more

            https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Chromecast_cast_button_icon.svg/1024px-Chromecast_cast_button_icon.svg.png

          • Breakers fan

            Many thanks!!! I can start the work now, and will also seek local help to make it happen. Appreciate your help! I can call them to find out but would Microcenter be a place where one could likely buy a Chromecast? Last question for now – does my TV need to be a Smart TV for this to work? It is a modern tv – I think a 2014 model – but it isn’t “Smart”.

          • Breakers fan

            One quick question that is getting ahead of the game for me: How does one link a smart phone to the Chromecast?

          • DNG

            That I’ll have to answer after picking one up.

          • Bruce

            Pretty easy to set up a Chromecast.

            1. Buy a chromecast. Plug it in. Read a code off of your television screen. Type it into a webpage. Give your chromecast a name on that page. Chromecast is ready.

            2. Log your smartphone onto your wifi. Install the google home app (if not already pre-installed).

            ————– set up over —————-

            When your phone is connected to wifi and you open an app with chromecast support (like youtube or go90), a chromecast icon will appear in the corner. Click on it and the video will stop running on your phone and will appear on your tv. Video controls like pause, skip, volume, fast-forward remain on your phone.

          • DNG

            Sounds simple enough. I’m guessing battery drain is similar to what it’s like when streaming videos?

          • Bruce

            No battery drain. Once you send a stream to a chromecast the video goes directly from source to that device. Phone only is a remote control at that point. Pretty cool approach.

          • Breakers fan

            Thanks, Bruce — very helpful!

          • Daniel Strick

            Another option (haven’t tried it yet). Just a small attachment for my wife’s phone, bought it at Best Buy. It’s a short cord; one end plugs into the phone, the same place you plug in the charger. The other, you connect to a HDMI cable, which is connected to your TV. This displays the stream on your TV. Cost about $50.

          • mockmook

            Sounds like, unlike the casting, you could rack up some big data charges that way.

          • mockmook

            Hey Bf,

            Have you tested out your system yet?

            How did it go?

          • Breakers fan

            See my reply about this to DNG that I just made. Thanks for asking!

          • Breakers fan

            Really do not want to watch the game on a small smart phone but predict that is what I will have to do.

          • kernel_thai

            I hope everyone is testing this cause it didn’t work for me

          • Bruce

            Really hesitant to get into tech support over a fourm like this, but where did you get stuck?

            No code on your TV
            Couldn’t find the website where you activate with code?
            Cast buttons on phone not appearing?
            Cast buttons on phone just not responding?

          • kernel_thai

            When u press the cast button on a video on the Go90 app it says it can’t find a google device. If the Google Home setup hadn’t gone well I wouldn’t be getting the button. Thought maybe there was a setting adjustment on the app I need to make but if I try and get into Accounts on Go90 the app crashes.

          • mockmook

            Aren’t you using the App using emulation. not on a modern smart phone?

          • kernel_thai

            Nope…tried an emulator and the app gives me an “Oops there is a problem ” message every time. Im now playing with Chromecast, but I hey Ive kept the receipt!

          • mockmook

            OK, but what is the App running on?

          • kernel_thai

            My Samsung Android phone

          • mockmook

            Gotcha — fire extinguisher handy?

          • kernel_thai

            As Ive said, the Go90 app works fine on the phone so that isn’t the problem, it just won’t locate the Chromecaster five feet away.

          • Bruce

            Ok. Sounds like one of two problems might be occurring.

            1) Chromecast isn’t properly set up: After set-up, your TV screen should have a photo backdrop that rotates every few minutes when the video input corresponding to your Chromecast is selected. If not, you probably still need to go through setup/activation of your device.

            2) Your cell phone is not connected to your wifi: If you try to cast while connected to just your mobile data network your phone won’t find the chromecast connected to your local network. Log your phone onto WiFi to resolve that.

            Let me know…

          • kernel_thai

            Im getting the slide show…mostly modern art. I only run the phone off wifi at home. If I were having trouble getting a cast to work I might have thought to switch it to mobile data to start then go back but as I said if I used the Youtube app it finds the caster and moves my video to the screen immediately.

          • Bruce

            Ok. That you can get YT to load means you are 90% of the way home.

            So the problem is just the go90 app?
            Is it that go90 says “no devices found” or that it starts loading to the TV but never does so completely?

          • kernel_thai

            It just gives me the “Cant locate Google cast device message”…My next plan is to throw out the Go90 app and hope reloading it with Google Home already installed fixes the setup in the app. If that doesn’t work I’m out of ideas

          • Bruce

            You are definitely on the right path. The main thing I can think of is that maybe go90 was launched before you installed Chromecast or Home and it is reading device availability from an outdated list.

            Before you toss it, try the following…

            Turn off / reboot the phone.

            In your phone’s Google Play: make sure Google Home and go90 are updated.

            Unplug / reboot the chromecast.
            Unplug / reboot the router.

          • kernel_thai

            Done all those things. Just uninstalled the go90 app and did a reinstall from Google Play. Still doesn’t work. What this is going to turn out to be is Go90 app bug that happens to coincide with my particular phone…of course this all gets back to the ridiculous time frame Verizon/NWSL stuck us with. Thanks for ur help…let me know if u think of something else.

          • DNG

            Is there a casting setting in you drop down setting menu? I was able to do what I suggested above but I have a Google Pixel and there are some different UI quirks with Samsung phones.

          • Bruce

            Good luck. I’m likely out of ideas. Been using Chromecast for 3 years and have never seen a case where one app can’t find devices when others can.

          • mockmook

            BTW, is there a pregame running for the Dash game?

          • kernel_thai

            Did u have problems with dropping the stream? I did until I changed locations

          • mockmook

            I need to experiment a little before I say what caused what — but after I was using a Canadian server, I had nothing but good quality video.

            I think pausing the video for a bit and filling the buffer(?) may have helped, too.

          • mockmook

            OK finally got “something” — just clicked on the game Icon at the top of the screen on NWSLsoccer.com and got a “The game will start soon” screen…

            (Using VPN)

          • kernel_thai

            OK further update. Boy am I glad Im not paying for this. Go90 works pretty well if u don’t mind watching on ur phone. I know this because the NWSL.com version keeps cutting out and I keep getting caught up on my phone. I bet the stream has stopped six times and I missed the first 20 minutes…spoke too soon…Go90 just crashed (2nd x)

          • Bruce

            You might just be able to mirror your whole screen to the TV by selecting the mirror option under the main menu in Google Home.

            Quality might be lower than simple casting since it loads your phones processor and uses much more wifi bandwidth, but it’s worth a try.

          • DNG

            Is it possible to mirror the entire phone screen like we were talking about above with the computer. Not an ideal solution but possibly better than nothing.

          • Bruce

            Haven’t seen a way to do that. You can mirror chrome browser screens, but then you invoke VPN issues.

          • DNG

            I can do it on my Pixel. In the settings drop down menu there is an option if you swipe over. Not sure if will work with a Samsung device.

          • Bruce

            Hmmm. I’m Samsung. There used to be an option in Google Home to mirror screens, but it was deprecated some months ago.

          • DNG

            I haven’t kept up with the changes in Android recently so I don’t know if you version is different than mine. I’m in the notification toolbar part where you can swipe down and see 9 different buttons and the brightness bar: Wifi, data provider, battery, do not disturb, flashlight, auto rotate, bluetooth, airplane mode, and nearby. If you swipe over to the right there should be more quick tool buttons. Mine are hotspot, location, night light, invert colors, CAST, and data saver. I was able to press the cast one and mirror my phone screen onto my television. Obviously I recommend keeping the phone on wifi so to not use data

          • Bruce

            I see that it is back. Is under main menu drop down in Google Home app.

          • DNG

            My Pixel is running Android 7.1.2 and I think that’s the newest version. Optimized is not necessarily the same thing as compatible although is seems like you weren’t even able to get it to work.

          • kernel_thai

            So final tally….Still can get emulated app to work. Still can’t get Go90 to believe there is a Chromecast right next to it…had mixed results with VPN….must have rebooted the stream 20 times…filled the gaps watching on the phone…app crashed maybe 5 times. This probably equals the amount of drops I had on Youtube the previous 4 seasons. Progress.

          • DNG

            Try going to the google home app. Then tap the three horizontal bars in the upper left hand corner. It should bring up a menu and one of the virtual buttons should say cast screen/audio. That should mirror your phone screen onto a Television. Then you should be able to go into the go 90 app and watch the match. Might want to plug your phone into a charger though.

          • kernel_thai

            It works…ur a genius….also said my phone isn’t optimized for casting…ummm. no kidding….Thanks again

          • DNG

            Which phone do you have and how old is it? That’s strange that it said that.

          • kernel_thai

            Well on the Go90 requirements they say it works with anything after Android 4.4.2 and Im running 4.4.4 so according to them Im enough up to date.

          • DNG

            My Pixel is running Android 7.1.2 and I think that’s the newest version. Optimized is not necessarily the same thing as compatible although is seems like you weren’t even able to get it to work.

          • kernel_thai

            Works fine with other apps tho. Ud think if it was the phone i wouldn’t be able to cast anything.

          • DNG
          • Bruce

            Thanks. Samsung has its own approach to the drop down. Not the same options.

          • DNG

            Figured as much. I’m guessing there’s no swipe to the side option? One of the reasons I refuse to by a Samsung phone no matter how great the hardware is is because of the changes they make to the launcher and UI. Option is still in google home I’m guessing.

          • Bruce

            I’m not at home to test, but expect I open the Google Home app and do the same (mirror) from there. Never liked video quality with that approach though.

          • DNG

            It does seem to be noticeably more pixelated and there is probably some packet loss to be expected. I got okay results but not as good as casting netflix.

          • mockmook

            How about you, have you tried to access the HOU game yet?

            (I know it would be pre-game)

          • DNG

            No pregame. I’m getting event hasn’t started yet on both VPN nwslsoccer.com and the go90 app.

          • mockmook

            Thanks — yeah I got the same.

            Thought they said every game would have a pregame — but maybe I misread it.

          • DNG

            I didn’t read that but I would guess, at least right now, it’s only the lifetime game that gets the pregame. Still no Dash Stream for me

          • DNG

            go90 is up and running. Website not running for me yet.

          • DNG

            I think the website has the wrong feed.

          • mockmook

            Spirit and NCFC

          • DNG

            That’s what I’m getting. The Dash match is on go90.

          • mockmook

            I SEE A LIVE IMAGE!!!

            Moving pictures — what will they think of next???

          • mockmook

            Wait, now I see nothing…

          • mockmook

            This is way late, and perhaps unnecessary, but for the novices:

            You plug the Chromecast into an HDMI port on your TV — so you need an HDMI port.

            And, Bruce is assuming you have permission/access on a WiFi network where you are doing this.

          • kernel_thai

            Hopefully ur phone plan has unlimited data or u have Verizon.

          • Breakers fan

            interesting – thanks for the warning.

            i’m in the process of choosing a provider. Can you please elaborate/explain a bit more about these data issues – unlimited vs limited and Verizon vs. say Metro PCS or T-Mobile as it pertains to using the go90 app? If I just watch a game at a time and say I use Metro PCS and have a plan that has limited data will I face possible issues just seeing that 1 game? I probably won’t be using my smartphone to store a lot of other stuff as I have a desktop still.

          • Paul Atkinson

            “Casting” to either a Chromecast or an AppleTV involves a handoff from the phone to the device (this is behind the scenes…you don’t have to do anything). Once you tell your phone to cast to one of those devices, what happens is *not* that your phone streams video to the device. Rather, the phone gives the stream source over to the device, and the device streams it from there.

            So if your phone isn’t on your wifi but your streaming device is, you use data looking up the video but not watching it. Although if you’re home where your Chromecast device is then I’m not sure why your phone wouldn’t be on your wifi.

            tl;dr: if you’re watching on your phone you’re using your phone; if you’re watching on a Chromecast or an AppleTV then your phone isn’t streaming it.

          • Breakers fan

            Thanks for that, Paul. I think I got it. I’m in the process of trying to get it to work. Not there yet but am working on it.

          • mockmook

            Get a 13 yo kid involved, you’ll be done in about 5 minutes. 🙂

          • Breakers fan

            I actually have had the same thought…. 🙂
            Could be my router – whatever the heck that is — is too far from the chromecast, or so I read.

          • DNG

            what’s your issue?

          • Breakers fan

            Been working a lot lately, thus the delayed reply.

            I talked with folks, did everything to set up what I had to set up and actually did get my smart phone to cast onto the tv a few days ago and a video played, but only very haltingly. Unwatchable. Then yesterday I couldn’t even get anything to cast. Once, just once, I got the “ready to cast” message on my tv, but that went away pretty quickly. Every other time I tried to connect my phone to the chromecast it didn’t go through, didn’t work and a screen saver of a famous piece of art remained on my screen.
            The first day, 2 days ago, i did get a message on my tv saying “Your internet connection is weak”, which is surprising because another guy a few months ago said that the internet speed in this neighborhood (he ran a test to see what it is) for comcast/xfinity is super-fast.. My computer (a desktop, not really movable) is about 30 to 35 feet and around one corner from my tv, so I don’t know if that distance is causing a problem. I haven’t tried the system today to see if it’s any better. So, basically I don’t know if bringing in a Comcast technician to try to improve things at my end to try and make this work is something I should do, or whether the problem is in the go90 app itself, so it wouldn’t matter if I tried to make any changes here to improve things. Any ideas, anyone? Thanks for asking.

          • mockmook

            My first thought (and perhaps only thought) is that what matters is that the TV and the Phone have to be in places where they are getting good coverage from your WiFi.

            (The measured Internet speed is irrelevant if you aren’t making it to the network)

            Is the PC also on the WiFi? Or, are you using the PC to create the WiFi? Or, neither?

          • Breakers fan

            Thanks for that. I didn’t know what you said was true or mattered until now. My tv I don’t think I’ll be moving, though potentially a 2nd tv in another room could happen, if that would improve matters. That won’t happen today, but if it’ll help I could maybe do that down the road. Historically phone reception in this apartment has never been very good.

            Yes, the PC is on the Wifi. Here’s the background on my WIFI situation. I imagine I always had it but until a few days ago I hadn’t registered it with a name and password. I did so over the phone with a comcast agent. So then I did have one with a name. When I’m here now my network does appear on my smart phone and it is checked so I believe it is operational. Whether that means my PC created it I’m not sure but it sounds like the answer is “yes” to that. Is that good or bad? Can I do anything in that realm to improve matters?

          • mockmook

            You were on the internet on your PC before you activated the WiFi? (via a cable modem / a wired ethernet connection?)

          • Breakers fan

            Yes. I was on the internet when I called comcast and got the wifi going in terms of a name for my network and my password. I hadn’t even taken my brand new smart phone out of the box when i did that.

            I took my apple i5 phone out of its box a couple hours later and got that started with Metro PCS — I chose them partly because a dealer is right downstairs and couple doors over from me.

          • mockmook

            So, sounds like you must have a network box that provides a wired connection to your PC and that same box also acts as a WiFi “antenna”

            For this problem, it is irrelevant what kind of connection is happening with your PC.

            If you take your phone to where the Chromecast is plugged into your TV, does it have good WiFi signal?

          • Breakers fan

            I believe that is right – your 1st sentence. I have a bundle with comcast – tv, internet, landline phone number. When someone calls my landline it shows up on my tv — I can see who is calling me, if that tells you anything.

            I don’t know the answer to your 2nd question – about the quality of the wifi signal there. Is there a way I can see how strong the signal is? All I see at present is that my network name has a check next to it on my phone when I’m in front of my tv, which I take to mean only that it is working, but doesn’t tell me anything about how well it’s working. Is that wifi signal at that location (phone close to tv) potentially improvable? If so, is it something I can do or would a comcast person have to come here and do some stuff?

          • mockmook

            Did you do the test of turning off the PC?

            BTW, where is the “network box” in relation to the PC?

          • Breakers fan

            Just did the test. My wifi network was still checked on my phone when I was near the tv and the PC was turned off.

            “network box” is a term I’ll have to guess at its meaning……I have a traditional tower for this PC. But I don’t think you mean that. Do you mean my cable box — the thing I aim my remote at to change the channel, set dvr recordings, etc? If that is what you mean it is the same distance as my tv is from the PC which is about 30 feet away and around one corner.

          • mockmook

            The “network box” is the “router”

            Likely a black box roughly about 12″ x 6″ x 3″

            The PC should have a wire (ethernet) going to it.

          • mockmook

            Did you find such a box?

          • mockmook

            Hello?

          • Breakers fan

            Sorry, mockmook – got a call from my out of town brother there……

            So, the router. I don’t see it. I see my modem and my tower — could the router be outside on a telephone pole or up on the outside of my buidling somewhere or is it always inside?

          • mockmook

            When you say “modem” you aren’t referring to the cable box right?

            If not, the modem is what we want.

          • Breakers fan

            Not the cable box. So yeah the modem is about 5 inches to the left of my monitor. About 2 feet from where I am typing.

          • mockmook

            OK, can you get a Chromecast /HDMI capable tv into this room for testing?

          • Breakers fan

            Good idea. I like it. This is the smallest room in this apt. However, I do have another HDMI/Chromecast-capable TV just sitting in this apt. It wouldn’t have to be hooked up to my comcast tv system at all would it? It would take a bit of work to set this up — but the idea is that if it’s closer to the router it might get a better signal, right? Might improve the chances of the Chromecast working, correct?

          • mockmook

            Yes, will improve the signal.

            And, doesn’t have to be hooked to the cable (just the Chromecast device).

            Do you want to do this now? How long for you to set up?

          • Breakers fan

            I may try and do it. Go on about your business and if I get it done I’ll write back and let you know. I WOULD like to see this game on a TV if I can so I may make the effort here….don’t wait for me, but I’ll keep you updated. Thanks for all the help here!!!

          • mockmook

            Blinking light may be normal — we’ll see. 🙂

          • Breakers fan

            All is connected, including the curtain drawn to eliminate glare. In 36 minutes the results of the test will be in…..

            I don’t really want to try other go90 videos in advance. Wish to test it first on the game.

          • mockmook

            I’d plug in the phone to a power source (if handy).

            Why not try it out on some go90 random video? See what error occurs (if any).

            But, do as you wish.

          • Breakers fan

            Do you mean “keep the phone charger plugged into the phone and a power outlet as I (hopefully) watch the game?” If so, why should I do that? Just wondering.

            I may test it in advance. Part of me though would like the thrill of the game magically appearing on this tv as the first evidence I get that this works. My prediction based on yesterday is that it won’t work. Will having a blanket over the window, as I have right now, potentially lessen the strength of my signal, by thickening the wall to the outside? Or is that hillbilly superstition?

          • mockmook

            You are a thrill seeker 🙂

            The WiFi is being generated by the modem (the modem relays that to the internet through the coax cable). So, you are currently immersed in WiFi cooties…

            Good Luck!!!!

          • Breakers fan

            Thank you!!!

            So, not sure if you answered this – did you mean have the phone charger plugged into my phone as I watch? Just trying to figure out why you said that and if it helps my chances of this working. – thanks!!!

          • mockmook

            Yes while you watch (hopefully not the phone). Just so you don’t lose power if the battery drained.

          • Breakers fan

            Thanks. Are you going to watch it and if so, on what sized screen?

          • mockmook

            I believe it is 30″ monitor

            Success for you?

          • Breakers fan

            Evidently, though it oddly went into a commercial break just now, cutting off the announcer. I’ll be happy when the game returns. Saw Rose joking with Midge Purce in warm-ups.

            Yes, working!!! Thanks again.

          • Breakers fan

            The return of Sydney Leroux – a big storyline here…

          • Breakers fan

            Breakers starting lineup is out:

            Beard’s way, honor the vets, and a semi-shocker that I alerted you about:
            hard to suss out the formation, but this is the exact order they enter it in on twitter:

            Smith
            Purce, Westphal, Oyster, Chapman, Salem, DaCosta, White, Leon, Dowie (C), Lavelle

            I guess Julie King is hurt.
            I assume Purce will be at right back.
            No Morgan Andrews starting – booing that here.

          • mockmook

            My guess is LB

            probably a 4-2-3-1

            Lavelle at CAM
            Dowie up top

            Salem and Da Costa as DMs

          • Breakers fan

            Thinking right back — where she was in the U Conn scrimmage and due to Chapman being a natural lefty.

            Agree with the rest, though I think Leon is used to being a little higher I still think you’re right. My phone is charged fully so should I be ok? And does the phone need to be close to or “facing” either the modem or tv for this to work best?

          • mockmook

            Phone should be fine — modem/wifi is supposed to have something like a 100ft range when not obstructed.

          • mockmook

            Nope, take that back, probably RB like you said.

            Oyster and Westphal are the CBs

          • Breakers fan

            Are you going to be able to see the game on a respectably-sized screen?

          • mockmook

            Si

            And, oh yeah, just have the phone plugged in so that it doesn’t lose power on you during the broadcast (that’s all I meant).

          • Breakers fan

            Also, does it indicate a problem at all (if you know) that the WIFI button on my modem is blinking fast? I feel like (not 100% sure) that that didn’t happen before a few days ago when I got a name and password for my own wifi. I just don’t know why it’s blinking like that, unless that’s normal and just means that it’s working….

          • Breakers fan

            I will add this: The WIFI button on there is and has been frantically blinking. Every other light (Power, Online, Telephone), in contrast, is just solidly ON, a solid light on, no blinking.

          • mockmook

            PS, just as a sanity check to verify I understand what’s going on, make sure you are getting WiFi coverage to your phone with your PC turned off.

          • Breakers fan

            Interesting…..will do that and get back to you – I hadn’t thought of that idea, but I don’t *think* about computer stuff in the first place! 🙂

          • DNG

            It sounds like the signal from your router to the chromecast is weak but I wouldn’t think that 35 feet is too far depending on what type of router you have. Mine is about 15-20 ft away and works well. I don’t think it was talking about your actual internet speed.

          • Breakers fan

            Thanks, — see my dialogue with mockmook here – it’s long but he eventually guided me to victory!

          • DNG

            I take it moving the chromecast closer to the router worked. Glad to hear you got it sorted in time to watch the breakers. I was out and missed the first half and turned on the stream only to see Arod get injured which was depressing.

          • Breakers fan

            Yeah, that was the crucial move. Good thing I had an extra tv sitting around too.

            That did suck with A-Rod. I don’t think Oyster was dirty there but I also didn’t like how she didn’t go for the ball, but rather she bodied into A-Rod and thus caused ARod to go down.The game was pretty damn depressing by and large as a Breakers fan. Not all players were bad but there’s tons of room for improvement. The back line, unless they make some changes looks worse than last year. Oyster was pretty awful I felt,. Chapman is gritty and did some good things but she’s not a burner and got caught upfield too often. Westphal I think is more suited to play midfield and Purce, a forward, is now somehow a defender, due to injuries.. I thought she was better than some of her cohorts back there – she’s a good athlete and has some good soccer skills but it’s the first game in her life as a defender – is that a smart move by a coach? I don’t think so. If they make some changes it could be another disastrous year.

          • DNG

            The AWK guys have been adamant that Westphal is not a pro level defender but that she would probably be pretty good as a DM consider her ability on the ball. Did Beard still stick with the suicidally high line? If so I think that the fast countering teams will do a number on them again this year. How was RL in the first half?

          • Breakers fan

            I believe he did exactly that- stick with the suicidally high backline. The goals and otherwise goal chances happened so quickly and I believe that happened due to what you’re saying here.

            Rose in the first half….they had her way over on the right side. To me on this team that is idiotic. You want your best ball handler to get the ball THE MOST. I think she got her first touch in the 12th minute. I actually started wondering if I saw things correctly that she was a starter when she was never getting the ball. She was fine when she had the ball but often it was tight, over by the sideline so it was hard for her to maneuver. And when she did it seemed like the offensive part of the team was too jammed together, so she couldn’t do that much. She did her best with what she had to work with. I think Beard probably saw that one NT game where Rose did her impressive moves over on the right so he emulated that, but that’s not the situation on this team, IMO.

          • DNG

            Playing on the wing is not the worst thing for a young attacking midfielder. Eden Hazard plays on the wing for Chelsea FC and frequently gets the most touches on the team. Granted he come back for the ball a lot. A free role out wide could be really good for her. I didn’t see the build up to both the Leroux and Arod goals but it looks like the team got stretched on the Arod goal and they gave Leroux way too much space to get in behind on the first.

          • Breakers fan

            There were several other near-goals. Game easily could have been 6-0, though the Breakers got close a few times too. I personally would like Rose in the middle. That’s where she says she likes to play and IMO they need her there. Maybe on the NT she’s fine on the wing but not the Breakers – IMO.

          • DNG

            If you watch Heath play wide left for Portland you probably have seen her mover all over the field at various points during a match. Just because Lavelle lines up wide right doesn’t necessarily mean that she’s going to stay out there. If Beard is not allowing her to have enough freedom be effective that could be a problem.

          • Breakers fan

            She moved some and I know that that can happen. My opinion hasn’t changed however on this topic. She played centrally at Wisconsin for 4 years and probably in high school too. Why would you take someone who’s done something for the last 8- to maybe 15 years straight and then have them do something different? Makes no sense to me.

          • DNG

            Eh modern attacking mids can typically play all along that line. There are lots of popular formation that don’t use traditional 10’s anymore. The decision to use her out there doesn’t bother me as anywhere near much as when Ellis was playing Brian out there. I think Lavelle has the ability to be a very effective flanker in the future. The NT probably need a direct successor to Rapinoe and Heath more than it needs another CAM type player. Boston can of course play her where they like but I think it’s a good position for her. It just might take a little to adjust which should be fine considering Boston aren’t really contenders this year.

          • Breakers fan

            We disagree here but thanks for presenting your opinion on the matter.

          • Breakers fan

            When I say I disagree I mean “with the Breakers”. The NT is going to do what they’re going to do, and your point is a good one if they end up putting her out there – that she’ll gain experience at it in the NWSL. But my concern and care is my local team first, not to have the Breakers be the NT AAA affiliate, and I, maybe not you, but I feel she can help Boston the most playing centrally.

          • Bruce

            You actually don’t need a mobile data plan at all to watch the games at home via Chromecast or Apple TV. All data transfer can be done with WiFi in that case. You could even just use an old phone like a tablet under that scenario.

            If you plan on watching games via a mobile data connection, then Verizon is definitely the way o go since go90 data is “free” to Verizon users.

          • mockmook

            How can you cast a stream via WiFi for a stream that doesn’t exist on the internet?

            (The App to get the stream is on your smartphone)

          • kernel_thai

            Id also recommend running ur phone off wifi if u don’t have unlimited data or u have built in data volume penalties.

          • Bruce

            Chromecast uses WiFi data, not mobile. Once a phone sends a video stream there it will not consume mobile data.

          • Breakers fan

            Just saw this post – I think it answers my question below. So, I’m assuming no huge need or advantage to choose Verizon as my provider with respect to using the go90 app and a Chromecast, correct?

      • kernel_thai

        So here’s the next complaint. If ur going to a completely new system, wouldnt it have been nice if it had been in place early enough to try a couple pre season matches on it so people could figure out what works for them before they actually start missing games.

  • Guest

    Why did WUSA fail? Operating expenses were way too high. They thought they would bring in HUGE crowds and revenue in thinking the 1999 World Cup triumph would continue to bring in a royal flush – year after year.

    Why did WPS fail? They still thought they could pay each athlete too much money.

    Why did NWSL fail despite having the best model? Lifetime deal and Go 90 blew up in their faces when they had YouTube, ESPN-W, and ESPN3 in their back pocket.

    • DNG

      “Why did NWSL fail despite having the best model? Lifetime deal and Go 90 blew up in their faces”

      This seems a little hyperbolic no? And how do you know ESPN was an option?

    • kernel_thai

      I think the Lifetime part of the deal is fine. Tying the rest of the matches to phone only app is the bad part.

  • Silver Frost

    At least EQ is being honest and not total NWSL homeboy fanboy about this broadcast fiasco. I guess NWSL is not aware that like China, there are ways for US people to get around the official web, for free. I would pay a subscription for a streaming option. Why can’t they do that?

    • Budd Marsh

      So you will be willing to pay for a subscription to watch the games but not $35 for a device that will let you watch it on a HD TV

      • DNG

        Not all people have smartphones even if most do now.

        • Budd Marsh

          I do not have a Smartphone so I will be using my Chromecast device and watching on my TV. I also do not have cable or any other way to watch a TV show at my home.

          • DNG

            As I understand it a smartphone is necessary to cast the matches because the website does not have live performances. Maybe they will post the matches after the fact to their website.

          • Steglitz49

            Smartphones are not that expensive these days.

          • Bruce

            How do you send to Chromecast wihout a smartphone, tablet?

          • DNG

            You can do it from a laptop through chrome but not if there is no steam on a website.

          • Bruce

            Confirmed that there will be no website stream. Plus, videos on go90.com don’t have Chromecast option (it’s a formatting issue).

          • Bruce

            In other words – you cannot cast NWSL from a laptop. Only phone or tablet.

          • DNG

            I just set up a chromecast and I’ll deal with it but I’m not sure I agree with the direction decision to use go90 at the moment. I think it’s bad for growth no matter what but I don’t know about the monetary compensation the league is getting.

          • kernel_thai

            Well if u want the ultimate NWSL buying experience u can buy Chromecast and open a VPN account and cast the NWSL.com feed to ur tv…I guess

          • Bruce

            I get that you are being funny – but probably not – the videos on nwslsoccer.com aren’t Chromecast-able.

          • DNG

            You actually can use chromecast that way if your VPN’s ip is outside the US. With the chromecast you can just mirror any webpage using the chrome browser on a pc connected to your the same network the chromecast is.

          • Bruce

            Your experience may be better than mine, but I’ve always found that browser page mirroring results in extremely low quality videos.

            Has to do with the bandwidth involved in sending original video data (1) from your router to your PC and then mirroring (2) back from your PC to the router and (3) from the router to your Chromecast.

            If you can click a chromecast button on a video/app, the original video goes directly to the Chromecast – eliminating all of the traffic in steps 2 and 3 from your WiFi network.

            Whatever works for you though!

          • DNG

            I’ll have to actually test it but I wouldn’t be surprised if you are right. What you say makes sense. I’m not too worried about the bandwidth on my network

  • dw

    Not even the house propaganda machine can spin this. But credit for posting it instead of burying it.

    Propaganda score (out of 10): 0!

  • hrmny

    I’m an international fan and I’m glad that I will still be able to watch games for free. That was my number one fear because I don’t really have the money to buy live streaming packages and stuff. But YouTube was the best way for everyone. I get what they’re doing with the Go90 app and the Verizon deal because it’s all about the business, right? But they’re just making things harder for local fans. I want free accessibility for everyone, no matter where in the world you are.

  • disqus_hj8dHnhlYK

    I’m not completely convinced that the games not being aired on Lifetime are actually going to be better quality. The quality issues we have seen in the past when games were being streamed on YouTube seemed to be specific to a stadium and not because of the streaming platform.
    – When Chicago split their home games between Toyota Park and Lisle-Benedictine University the stream was constantly choppy but only when they played at Toyota Park. None of the other streams running simultaneously were choppy and they didn’t have that problem when they played at Lisle-Benedictine University.
    – WNY home games always having very low audio and video quality while at the same time Houston was always running in full HD audio and video.
    – The Spirit constantly having their streams completely dropping while the other streams running simultaneously were running without a problem.
    My point is, is that hardware and connectivity issues and limitations coming from within the stadium are not going to be fixed just because they chose a different platform to deliver the stream on. Not unless all of the stadiums that have had problems were forced to buy new hardware and upgrade their internet connection.

    • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

      I imagine that A+E are flipping the bill for technology to fix those “local” issues.

      • disqus_hj8dHnhlYK

        I hope so. A few years ago Plush said that the teams were going to start being held at a higher standard for their stream production. The problem was that why would the NWSL team owners be expected to foot the bill for thousands of dollars in cameras and higher internet monthly bills when most of the teams were playing at colleges, public parks, or the team owners were not owners/operators of the stadium they played in? It was kind of ridiculous to expect one tenant, who isn’t even turning a profit to begin with, to be the only one ponying up money for upgrades that all of the tenants are going to use.

  • Bruce
    • DNG

      I’m also very interested in seeing if there is any form of archive since I usually try to watch as many matches as possible.

    • FawcettFan14

      So international fans can watch just by logging onto nwslsoccer.com, but U.S. based fans must shell out money to rig up some external system like this? Great.

      • Steglitz49

        Be positive. Be pleased for Giovanna Foreigner, who will not have to pay, instead of winging and whining.

        Nobody likes a whiner.

        • FawcettFan14

          I am happy for Giovanna. I’d be even happier if that simple solution applied to us too.

          • Steglitz49

            This is pro-WoSo as in professional, which means that it earns its keep, which in turn means that the fans have to pay.

            Either pay-up or shut-up!

          • FawcettFan14

            I have no problem with paying up. I am glad to support WoSo financially. I would rather pay a reasonable amount for a membership and be able to watch easily via the website than rig up some other system that requires an extra dongle.

            Why are you being so insufferable about this.

          • Steglitz49

            Your point is well taken. At the same time, virtually all the comments on this topic on all the articles seem to focus on that this viewing should be convenient, free or at least very cheap.

            It is true that Churchill once remarked that Champagne should be cold, dry and free. He also noted that the Royal Navy ran on rum, sodomy and the lash.

          • Ron Rocha

            I am paying $9 a month to watch Dunn and Chelsea and do not need a smart phone, app, Chromecast gadget and all the other s*** to do it. I’ll pay up and wont shut up because this is the old adage of protecting or enhancing ones position by complicating things because if you were to make them simple or leave them alone then perhaps anyone could do it and you won’t be needed. Also, perhaps everyone should shut up and continue to fly United.

          • Steglitz49

            Chelsea is the world’s 7th richest soccer club according to Forbes. Only Real, Barca, Man Utd, Bayern Munich, Arsenal (HAO’s club) and Man City (Carli’s club) are richer.

            Chelsea is valued by Forbes at $1.66 billion with a revenue of $505 million. What’s the revenue worth of the NWSL? MLS expansion was invented in old Europe.

            Apart from Crystal Dunn, Chelsea Ladies have Maren Mjelde, she of the fabulous free kick in WC-15, Hedvig Lindahl of the Glorious 12th and OG-16 generally, and Ji So-yun of South-Korea, not counting all their English WNT players.

          • Ron Rocha

            $9 well spent. And I also paid for many seasons of Go Heels to get streaming of UNC college Soccer until they did the unthinkable and made the ACC network available on ESPN. I guess the Soccer Gods givith and the Soccer Gods taketh away.

          • Steglitz49

            Ramona Bachmann just got some award over in England.

          • mockmook

            Thank you for that incredibly enlightening and relevant nano-particle of “information”…

          • Steglitz49

            I was hoping that Ron Rocha, who by his own account follows Chelsea Ladies avidly, could enlighten us about what Ramona got.

            You obviously couldn’t, or wouldn’t.

      • kernel_thai

        Im trying to picture the play by play person in Florida making the calls by watching his phone : )

        • Steglitz49

          Let them go to Orlando and watch the game in the stands.

    • Steglitz49

      Thanks for the clear diagram.

  • William

    I would think there will be some kind of re-thinking of this. It’s ludicrous that you can’t stream from a laptop. What if you don’t have a smart phone or just have a really old one.

    Bet they make some changes by week two-three, the backlash on this is going to be ugly. Growing pains…

    • Steglitz49

      Winge, winge, winge. Whine, whine, whine. US WoSo in a nutshell.

  • Ron Rocha

    I have a VPN that I use when traveling and with it engaged the NWSL web site schedule broadcast info changes from Lifetime/go90 to all NWSL icons so I’m guessing that I will be able to view it off the NWSL site as if I were out of the country. What a way to do business!

  • Tikitaka

    Should have done the Facebook move like MLS.

    • Steglitz49

      MLS is watched by 5-10x as many people as NWSL.

  • Joel

    I guess there is only one question left. Does NWSL management understand what an issue this Go90 thing is for US customers?

    • Steglitz49

      If more people went along and watched the games then these deals would not be necessary. At least more people watch WoSo than ladies hockey, so be grateful for small mercies.

  • Alex Namzoff

    so it seems like there are different answers as to whether you can watch on a laptop. as someone mentioned logging into the website on a laptop the games aren’t listed, while they are in the mobile app. so not looking good there. Also, I found the Serie A italian games listed, was able to watch a game previously streamed on the app, the same game does not show up at all under the channel on the website, so not looking good situation #2. I guess we’ll find out tomorrow if its strike 3, or I guess I should say missed penalty kick #3 for watching on a laptop. so far my experience on the app is pretty bad on my tablet. It seems to only work in portrait mode when looking at the menus and then only switches to landscape mode when you watch a video and set it to show in full screen. Haven’t tried chromecasting it to see if that is any better. I am also curious to see how far back you can watch games. The other soccer channels seem to have pretty limited previous games listed. The nwsl definitely does not seem to get the concept of soccer fan culture in my opinion. I guess they are just catering to their young girls market with the choice of lifetime as their partner and app only watching option.

    • mockmook

      How was the video quality?

      • Alex Namzoff

        It was pretty good. But its through bein sports which is a pretty large cable operation so not sure how that will translate to the nwsl games. I expect that will depend more on the company they have hired to do the streaming and commentating.

        • Steglitz49

          I thought that bein sports belongs to PSG?

          • Alex Namzoff

            I have no idea who owns bein sports, but they broadcast games from la liga in spain, serie a in italy, and ligue 1 in france, though mainly psg games.they also now show some us college football and basketball. pretty sure the broadcast team is based in miami.

  • Lisa

    well. I know a lot more about VPN than I did a day ago … I have zero google and apple devices and am happy to keep it that way. How is the league possibly going to up viewership (okay Lifetime … but …) when step one is install niche (crappy) app? 5-year STH and I find out two days before the season starts that I have no legitimate way of watching the rest of the games.

    • kernel_thai

      U should be just as pissed as u seem to be.

    • Lisa

      I’m getting the feeling that NWSL found out that the live web stream won’t work at the same time we did … now seeing tweets that it will work in the “future”.

      And better yet, ussoccer_wnt just linked this for how to watch http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2017/04/14/20/02/20170414-feat-wnt-on-tv-fifth-season-begins
      in which it states “Matches will be streamed live via go90.com. To watch, you can also simply download the go90 app …”

      just so everyone is on the same page and the message is clear … perfect.

      • mockmook

        I’m off to the ether to purchase a VPN, wish me luck!!! 🙂

  • Bruce

    The most amazing part of this whole debacle is that the NWSL front office has decided that a media blackout is the right way to respond to the cluster of confusion they’ve created 48 hours before season kickoff.

    • mockmook

      I wonder if anyone is pressing them hard for answers.

      • Bruce

        From what I gather on twitter, they simply aren’t making themselves available for questions. Plan Plush still in effect.

    • Arcie Tillydee

      I swear I’m hearing “Yakety Sax” playing in the background…

  • MrTemecula

    So I tested the go90 app on my android phone and it worked well on my Chromecast stick and I didn’t have to register, so, yey for that. Watched, live, Athletico vs. somebody, don’t remember who, but the quality was very good. Also watched a reality show about somebody getting a tattoo. Saw a NWSL game scheduled for tomorrow and hope for the best. The only thing better would be if go90 app finds it way to Amazon Fire TV stick.

    Kind of fiddly, but it works.

  • tomas tan

    When I tried to download the go90 app to my two-year old Android phone, I got the following message: “Your device isn’t compatible with this version of go90.” My Amazon tablet isn’t compatible with the go90 app. If NWSL games aren’t streamed on my laptop I’m out of luck–unless I buy a new smart phone, a new tablet, and a Chromecast device. I currently subscribe to a sports package on Sling TV and would be willing to pay extra for NWSL games. But I’m not willing to invest in new hardware or attempt complicated work-arounds to watch my favorite NWSL teams on an app.

    • Ron Rocha

      It appears that the only other alternative is using a VPN network and then using that to watch the non US broadcast on NWSL.com. If you have one it should work and if you don’t have one it’s not a bad thing to have to protect your computer work but then again it’s money you shouldn’t have to pay.

      • mockmook

        Shouldn’t someone complaining about this cluster-f show that they are competent to get a website right? 😉

        NWSLsoccer.com

        • Bruce

          This from the horse’s mouth last night…

          https://twitter.com/wosonoco/status/853280623708041216

          • mockmook

            Thanks for that depressing news 🙂

            But, don’t know if I was clear, was referring to RR using nwsl.com for NWSLsoccer.com

          • Bruce

            The league will likely not comment at all about the use of VPNs since the international streams don’t include the revenue bump they get with go90 users. They’ve definitely created a problem for themselves.

          • Ron Rocha

            Good Morning! Sorry, I have CRS and just use the little pictures at the top of the screen. I am presently aboard my Viscount Personal Nuclear transporter enroute to England where I hope to not only watch on NWSLsoccer.com but also get a discount on viewing the Chelsea site. I have my Personal Communicator set to turbo mode for best reception but if it’s not adequate then I will proceed to Germany where I’ve often had good luck.😎

          • mockmook

            CRS or CSR?

          • Ron Rocha

            CRS! Can’t Remember S**t!

          • mockmook

            Ahhh!!!! Now it all makes sense 🙂

      • Silver Frost

        I tried Hoxx, without success. And, Tor browses are worthless. The security settings are so severe you can’t see video.

        • DNG

          Hola worked with the NWSL website. Use at your own risk of course.

          • Bruce

            Wouldn’t worry too much about Hola.

    • Lisa

      I was able to download a go90 3.0+ apk and side load on my kindle fire. Gives an error about google services, but it does work & can be projected to your tv (assuming some miracast support). But … the app experience was pretty bad. Top and bottom bars wouldn’t hide when watching expanded video so it cut down on the screen real estate a bit. VPN is looking like the best alternative (assuming it works tomorrow) until they get this live stream on go90.com working in the US (seems to be an indication that they’re working on this … for sometime soon .. but not tomorrow)

      • kernel_thai

        As a test I downloaded Bluestacks to my Mac which is the Android emulator recommended for running the Go90 app. The emulator runs fine and had no problem streaming the Youtube app. Unfortunately, tho it loaded the Go90 app without issue it refused play any video. I tried several tv shows and even picked a soccer match off their live page. Nothing.

        • Lisa

          ah, bummer. I had also tested out go90 on bluestacks on my pc (Windows 10) and it worked, but the video quality was low and the app stuttered a bit. Do you maybe have a mock location set that’s messing with go90 permissions?

          • Bruce

            Reports online (search twitter for recent posts from Hal Kiser) that there is a bios fix for that. Need to change a setting to increase memory for application. Good luck.

  • guest

    So the last-minute scramble to watch games is on. Looking at go90.com, only the most optimistic (or naive) person would believe games will be streamed there, and if you scroll down to the google play link, you’ll discover that free streaming is limited only to phones. So I went and downloaded BlueStacks which emulates a smart phone, clicked on the go90 app, which wanted all my privacy data, which I permitted, because it’s all fake anyway (ha!). Anyway, the games were listed, but I couldn’t get any video to play (I got an error on my PC). So now on to plan B.

    So my question to Amanda now is how much did Verizon pay them for this deal (which is clearly meant to drive people to Verizon Wireless), and was it worth it when they stand to lose a good part of their loyal fan base? Right now I’m so disgusted I’m half hoping the league goes belly up in year 5. Do these people in the league office understand that this league is nothing without viewers? Even if they wanted to, can they undo their contract with Verizon? Right now this looks like a total train wreck.

    • mockmook

      It does appear that the games will be archived there (at go90.com), so a patient fan can eventually see all the games — though the wait may be VERY LONG until they get this rolling.

      I’m going to try VPN software/routing today (purchased yesterday). I’ll let you know how it goes. It does seem to be the easiest way to get the streams to a monitor/tv for those who don’t have (or don’t want to have) Apple/”Smart”/Casting devices.

      • kernel_thai

        So, the adventure continues. I also tried Bluestacks which ran fine but the Go90 app failed. I then tried Chromecast, which also ran fine but the Go90 app can’t locate the google casting device. In both trials my control was the Youtube app which ran perfectly on Bluestacks emulator and which found the google device and played video on my tv. Are we seeing a pattern here?

        • mockmook

          Well, they are making no claims that emulator software would work.

          Believe me, I understand this is a cluster-f, but there is no reason to “hype” the cluster-f-iness

        • Steglitz49

          Nothing beats live WoSo. Go to the match — any match near you. They will be more than glad for the support.

          As MockMook exhorts you: don’t get your knickers in a twist — and if you already have, calmly untwist them.

        • DNG

          I got the go90 app to broadcast the real game live using chromecast. I’m using an android phone. Had the same issue as you with the bluestacks stream.

    • mockmook

      VPN worked great — so that is an option for some people.

  • Guest

    Download “BlueStacks App Player” and you can then watch the go90 app on your laptop!

    • mockmook

      Please give a report on the quality of the NWSL game videos when watched that way

      • Guest

        Was great! No issues. Same quality as last years YouTube streams.

        • mockmook

          Thanks!!!

          Some of the other commenters here had problems with that emulator

  • football-women.com

    Seems NWSL hasnt failed to create a very entertaining preseason until the very last minute?
    However the entertainment level might be more like the one with that nice micro-pitch in – where was it – Washington?
    Certainly interesting to hear when the “standard” user wants to tune in who didnt know better to be prepared days before kick off.
    We on our part will see what happens with the streams on NWSLsoccer and prepared to focus on tv.dfb.de tomorrow (early EDT Cup semi Freiburg-Wolfsburg; A small compensation but you dont need to be without)
    It is yet all about development in the right direction.

  • sweetjazz3

    That’s a shame. I want to be a fan of the NWSL and have watched the YouTube streams regularly the past three seasons. But it looks like it is time for me to move on to something else, because none of the current options works for me.

    The biggest tragedy in all of this is to have such a great product, but so far the business side has been mediocre to awful in almost all of its decisions. I’m sure it is harder in their shoes than it appears to armchair critics like myself, but I hope they’ll adjust if (as I would expect) their go90 audience ends up being minuscule.

  • Ron Rocha

    Funny! Able to get the NWSL feed using a VPN but when selecting the Houston Chicago game I can only get the pregame warm-up of the Spirit /NC game. It’s like an Easter Egg Hunt

  • guest

    Good piece by Tannenwald. Apparently, “there’s no way to capture footage in a native format” to display on your computer. Well, no, not if you’re going to stream it on go90. He also talks about the fee Verizon paid and what Amanda hopes to do with it. How about developing a native format, and make it pronto, so we don’t have to spend our money on chromecast and VPN’s? I think a lot of us would prefer to give our money directly to the league, rather than spending it on tech workarounds.

    • mockmook

      That article is fantastic.

      So, archived games will be available to everyone a few days after the games air — not ideal, but still very generous.

      And, I’m happy to see the league make some money on the broadcasting rights.

  • smallchief

    Well, my first, and possibly last, effort to stream live matches on go90 was a failure. I take it that those of us who have desk top computers aren’t able to watch NWSL matches without a lot of technical hocus pocus — or maybe not at all.

    Not wise, NWSL — to mess up a perfectly good system of watching the NWSL on Youtube,

    • DNG

      I was able to use Hola VPN to steam the matches on my computer and able to get the go90 app to work with my chromecast. I don’t know how comfortable you’d be using Hola VPN though, that’s a personal thing.

      • kernel_thai

        Did u have trouble with the stream dropping out? I must have rebooted the webpage 20 times.

        • DNG

          No. I used Canada as the international country.

          • kernel_thai

            As did I…I started on Canada East but had much better luck in the second half when I switched to Canada West

    • kernel_thai

      I was immensely disappointed at the number of hoops I have to jump thru. Worse after suffering thru the live stream, my only current option to watch the Dash game again seems to be on my phone off the Go90 app. Hopefully it is posted on a website in the near future.

      • Breakers fan

        Exact same experience and exact same (angry-to-enraged) reaction. How can we let the go90 people know, or should we write to Lifetime or would writing to the NWSL be best, to at least voice our feelings and experience? Who is primarily responsible here for choosing go90? Even if only on Twitter I’d rather have my reaction heard than not heard.

        • mockmook

          The NWSL is responsible for the network they chose

          • Breakers fan

            So I should write to them. I wonder if they’re getting swamped with hate mail about this already. A deluge that may move them to make changes of some sort. You’re just as pissed off as I am, correct?

            I haven’t read that article you liked yet but will soon. Does it say why the NWSL chose go90? Are they making a lot of money from it? If so, where will that money go? (if the article talked about these things).

          • mockmook

            Yes read the article.

            Bottom line, “soon” (or maybe not so soon) you will be able to get live games over your PC just like you did from YouTube.

            Also, even now, if you miss games, you will be able to see them on your PC a few days late.

          • Breakers fan

            Will do – read the article. Very glad I’ll be able see archived games a few days later on my PC. That being the case I may just return this Chromecast unit —– or do you think there’s hope for it to work based on what I’ve told you? I’m good at delaying gratification so I may just try to exercise an NWSL news blackout on away Breakers games, so that when I watch the game on my PC a few days later the result will be unknown to me —– that could be tough to pull off, however.

            Which website will have them archived — the NWSL one or at go90? Or Lifetime?

          • mockmook

            I believe the plan for the archive is for go90.com, but not counting on anything at this point.

          • Breakers fan

            It’s fricking WORKING, BRO!!!

            MERCI BEAU, BEAU, BEAUCOUP!!

            This TV shall stay here and the Chromecast will not be returned!

          • mockmook

            Congrats!!!

          • Breakers fan

            Enough about me. Are you seeing this and on a decent screen?

          • mockmook

            Si

          • Breakers fan

            Did you just get a commercial break during play? I did – crazy – why would that happen?

          • Breakers fan

            Terrible CB defense there.

          • Breakers fan

            Now the 3rd commercial break in the middle of the first half – is that happening to you? Insanity.

          • mockmook

            No, not watching using the go90 app

            Does the game pick up where it left off?

            How long is the break?

            Is the game video completely masked?

            In all the other games, no one saw any commercials.

          • Breakers fan

            This may be the first time it’s happened in a go90 broadcast. It happened 3 times in the first 20 minutes then didn’t happen again. Did not pick up where it left off. Breaks were about 2 to 2.5 minutes each it felt like and yes the game video is completely masked. My feeling is that they finally realized they were making a mistake and stopped it.

            Beard getting burned now by not drafting Miranda Freeman or another defender. Defender Hubris of the first order. Looking like a long season for the Breakers here. This game could easily be 5-0 at this point.

          • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

            I saw on twitter that they nearly missed the Leroux goal dut to commercial. Did that happen in your feed?

          • Breakers fan

            yes. I did see that goal, but barely, as I recall. Bbut also, during one of the 3 commercial breaks in the first 20 minutes I missed a couple of close KC chances, including Leroux’s shot off the side post. They got it figured out and none happened after the first 20 but why they occurred at all has to be asked.

          • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

            So it wasn’t that bad- but keep an eye out on what’s Verizon’s intentions because:
            https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/opinion/how-the-republicans-sold-your-privacy-to-internet-providers.html?_r=0

          • Breakers fan

            Thanks for that. Awful, but not surprising. I do feel I can fend off people trying to sell me stuff but it’d be nice if I didn’t have to incessantly do that. Who knows what else it will bring? This is disgusting news but I’m glad to know of it.

          • mockmook

            Was just thinking that regarding drafting defenders.

            EVEN MORE SO, since he isn’t starting Andrews.

            I’ll take this opportunity to again show what could have been:

            01 . Breakers — Lavelle ( M ) – Wisconsin
            03 . Breakers — Mills, K ( D/M ) – USC
            08 . Breakers — Proffitt ( D/M ) – Marquette
            09 . Breakers — Purce ( F ) – Harvard
            31 . Breakers — Prudhomme ( GK ) – USC
            38 . Breakers — Kolander ( F ) – Minnesota

            With picks 3, 8, and 9 you get potential defenders — of course, 3 is kind of a lock (K.Mills)

          • Breakers fan

            Well, done there. Did Proffitt play for CRS yesterday – just wondering if you have a further read on her yet?

            Man, that was disheartening today. Disastrous. Oyster jogging back after getting beat. I miss Kallman already. There’s obviously big problems with the team. I’d get rid of Beard right now. Even if you put the 25 year old assistant as coach, if the players like him, respect him, would rally behind him, it’s an improvement. The current guy is not the answer.

          • mockmook

            No Proffitt yesterday — still haven’t seen enough of her to know if she is as good in real life as she is on paper.

          • Breakers fan

            Didn’t Rose look a bit disheartened to you today? She was the team’s best player and played hard, but she didn’t seem…enthralled and as passionate as she did on Wisconsin – not her fault, to me it’s an indication that she knows things aren’t what they could be. They had a good 3, 4 goal chances – but again none converted. It’s worrisome. I don’t think Beard is smart enough to get it together. I hope Frisbie returns soon. And Westphal I think should be at midfield. I’m just basically numb right now.

          • Breakers fan

            Just want to say that to not have Lavelle centrally is wrong, stupid. Beard and his ex-Liverpudlians is a tough nut to crack. I like Rosie White but come on.

          • mockmook

            What infects these coaches’ brains?

          • Breakers fan

            Idiocy, probably innate.

          • Breakers fan

            he’s ranting again like a madman, I hear.

          • Breakers fan

            GET ANDREWS AND ONUMONU IN THE GAME

          • mockmook

            Hey BTW, I hope the comcast people let you know how to protect your WiFi network (with a password and whatnot).

            If not, google something like “securing comcast wifi network” — probably a good idea to review some material regardless.

          • Breakers fan

            They did, they set me up with a password and when I go on my phone and see my network it has a picture of a lock next to it. Nevertheless,thanks a lot for that! I would *not* have known to do that if the comcast person hadn’t told me to.

          • Breakers fan

            Astounding diagnostics performed remotely — the crowd (in my head) is going bonkers in response to YOU!!!

          • DNG

            I haven’t been able to get them up on go90 app but it does look like that is the plan. The games are in the app but when I play them I’m not getting the matches.

          • mockmook

            Actually from what I understand, the games in the app die after a day or two.

            It will be on the website go90.com where you will find the games archived “forever”

          • mockmook

            The new phone books are here!!! The new phone books are here!!!

            Actually, it appears that the NWSL games are being archived at NWSLsoccer.com

            Just click on the “GAME INFO” box in the Schedule (Results) for a game, and presto, the full game video is available without an App.

          • DNG

            Thanks!

          • mockmook

            BTW, now that you have the App working, you can watch any of the games for a day or two after they occur (using the App), but then they disappear (just from the App).

          • Breakers fan

            Thanks a lot – I didn’t know that. Will try and take advantage of it. Have you seen all the games? Do you recommend any? Only ones I’ve seen are game of week on Lifetime, so I’m good there, Chicago-Houston on a tiny smartphone screen. Missed the other 2.

          • mockmook

            CRS HOU was entertaining since I’m a fan of Houston.

            I suppose SEA SBFC — Mills and Freeman look very good.

          • Breakers fan

            Watching Sea-SBFC now. I think Wash-NC has expired, it wouldn’t play for me. Did you see Wash – wondering how Kristie Mewii and Kassey K looked?

          • mockmook

            I was mucking about with my new VPN so I watched Wash v NC, but not really.

            My impression was that K.Mewii was a non-factor. Didn’t really notice Kallman

            But, Labbe was great

          • DNG

            That was during the Thorns match and I had to chose. I’ll watch when it becomes available but just looking at the stats it looks like Labbe was immense. NC had 23 SOG.

          • mockmook

            The new phone books are here!! The new phone books are here!!!

            Actually, it appears that the NWSL games are being archived at NWSLsoccer.com

            Just click on the “GAME INFO” box in the Schedule (Results) for a game, and presto, the full game video is available without an App.

          • Breakers fan

            Thank you very much!! So as of now we’re looking at a good 4, 5 days after a game is played to be able to see the video. Let’s hope that speeds up a bit. Doesn’t seem like it should have to take that long. I’m gonna read my new phone book all day today!

          • Breakers fan

            Right, but it was Liftetime who chose to use go90 as the streaming platform? If so, I want to write to them also.

          • mockmook

            I don’t think that is correct — I think the NWSL had to sign off on the network.

          • Breakers fan

            Ok, thanks. When you said/say “network” I think of “a tv channel” (Lifteime), when I think you mean go90 as the “network” – so my bad if I got your terminology wrong.

          • mockmook

            Right, meant go90

  • Steglitz49

    This will be the 230th comment. Enough said. Please, let’s draw a line in the sand and move on!

    • Steg Watch

      Take your own advice troll.

  • molitor72

    Thanks NWSL. I used to watch almost all the games now I can’t watch any. Awesome decision making. Hope the money is worth all the fans you just lost.