Germany replaces USWNT atop FIFA world rankings

The Equalizer Staff March 24, 2017 224

The United States’s poor showing at the SheBelieves Cup earlier this month has cost Jill Ellis’s side the top spot in the FIFA Women’s World Ranking. Olympic champion Germany, who finished second behind France at SheBelieves, is the new top ranked team on the planet with the US falling to No. 2. SheBelieves champion France held sway at No. 3 while England replaced Canada at No. 4.

No teams left or entered the Top 10 this cycle. Japan and Sweden though moved up into a tie for No. 6 with Australia falling two spots to No. 8.

The U.S. had been ranked No. 1 for two years, regaining the penthouse location after winning the 2015 Algarve Cup. That position was solidified with a World Cup trophy that summer. Friendly results have been excellent since the but tournaments results have not. The U.S. won the inaugural SheBelieves Cup in 2016 but then crashed out of the Olympics at the quarterfinals before finishing last of four at this year’s SheBelieves.

The full FIFA Women’s Ranking Table can be seen here.

  • kernel_thai

    Thanks, Jill.

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  • Steglitz49

    Not before time. Canada beating Germany in OG-16 and the USA with the help of the refs managing a draw against Sweden, probably helpt keep the US in the #1 position.

  • Som Termanni

    What ramifications were there, if any, to the USWNT’s ranking when Sermanni bombed out of the Algarve?

    • dw

      Entered #1 and remained #1. Germany overtook US at the end of 2014.

  • dw

    LOL, Germany is even worse than us, and they’re #1? Whatever the rankings may say, clearly France is best right now.

    • Arcie Tillydee

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    • Steglitz49

      Japan has never ranked #1.

      Eat your hearts out, Golden Generation — whoops, it is the other way round, is it not? Eat your brains out, ranking system!

    • disqus_hj8dHnhlYK

      Germany drawing with France instead of being blown out 3-0 seemed to give them a mere 3 point lead over the US.
      France is still going to continue climbing up if their results in major tournaments can match the talent they have on the field. Over the last 6 or so years that hasn’t been the case when you consider the only two teams ahead of them have each won a gold medal and one won a WWC title in that time.

    • guest123

      If France was not trailing 99 total points since the last time the rankings were out, they would have been #1 and the US possibly #3. Looking at Germany, they lost one point.

    • Gilbert Delpech

      Have you seen the match Germany against France?

  • dw

    #FireEllis

    • tonysocref

      Hell, lets add some others
      #FireGulati
      #FireHendricks
      #FireFrench
      #FireSnow
      #EliminateGuaranteedContracts
      #BenchLloyd better yet #FireLloyd

      • Steglitz49

        #FireTheFiremen?

  • Arcie Tillydee

    #EllisOut

  • guest

    this is outrageous! this can’t be true. this must be more putin russian hacking. fake news.

  • kernel_thai

    What do the arcane FIFA rankings mean to me…not much but what do they mean to USSoccer who believe image is more important than substance and that every friendly needs to end in victory is a better question?

  • dw

    #Make_USWNT_Great_Again

  • Steglitz49

    12 comments, 13 with this one. Vow. We are interested in WoSo, not?

    • Kevin

      Not sure what there is debate with this article.

      First of all, USWNT played terrible and rightfully fell from the top ranking.

      Is anyone shocked by this? Doubtful, why would they be?

      Secondly, the FIFA rankings are a joke. It’s the worst ranking system I’ve ever seen for a sport.

      So what exactly do you think everyone should be discussing in this article that wasn’t already covered in the comment sections after the SBC?

      • Timber Dave

        The FIFA women’s rankings are a lot better than the men’s. At least the women’s ones are based on the Elo system, which is a good one if it’s tuned right.

        I think we belong somewhere below France on the list. Actually I think everyone belongs below France — they looked the best at the SBC, and indeed won it. Maybe the rankings will reflect this sometime.

        • Steglitz49

          The women’s ranking go back to 1971. How is that better?

      • Steglitz49

        You could argue that the ratings are not responsive enough to real time events.

        Thus, for example, already after OG-16 Germany ought to have been ahead of the US and Sweden should have climbed. Likewise Japan’s points did not change because they did not play in OG-16 just like Germany’s did not change when they missed out on OG-12.

        The ratings actually use data as far back as 1971. Yes. 46 years ago. The more recent years, well understood, have more impact, but that impact is thoroughly diluted out.

        Why not cut the crap and stay in this Millennium and start at 2001, the year after the Sydney Olympics?

        Anyway, because FIFA ignore the ratings when it suits them, do they matter?

        • Kevin

          Why in the world would you count 2001?

          No, the ratings do not matter at all. They obviously don’t use them for seeding and they don’t qualify you for anything.

      • Craigaroo

        The women’s rankings is considered a good system by experts in these things. Better than the men’s rankings.

  • Kevin

    Since the inception of the rankings in 16 July 2003, the USA has never been ranked lower than #2.

    They’re actually on the verge of getting passed by France.

    2108 Germany
    2105 United States
    2072 France

    A poor showing in this next tournament and another good performance by France in the Euros could drop the USWNT to #3, their worst ranking ever. Hopefully, that would be enough justification to fire Ellis.

    • Steglitz49

      Japan never got beyond #3.

      The Golden Generation was merely bronze to FIFA. I guess some would say that it is altogether fitting. Lovers of WoSo hold a different view.

    • guest

      likely that will be the next four team tournament this summer in the us which will include japan, australia and brazil.

    • tonysocref

      Problem is that we would have to wait until 1 Sep for that to happen. That is when post EURO rankings come out.
      Between now and then, there will be 1 more ranking coming out on 23 Jun. Based on currently posted schedules, US has 3 matches – 2 at home against Russia (#25) and 1 away against Norway (#11). Germany has 1 match at home against Canada (#5). France has 1 match at home against Netherlands (#12)

      • kernel_thai

        I could see the US regaining the top spot if they have two good wins on their mini tour of Europe coupled with Germany being unimpressive in their home friendlies before Euros. As u say, the only important ranking is the September one and a German or French win at the Euro will have much more weight than anything the US can do in winning a friendly tournament on home soil.

    • Miami66

      Are FIFA rankings really that big though? Japan won the World Cup and were #3 afterwards, behind the two teams they beat (USA & Germany). USA are tinkering with things – we’ll see how they are next year. I expect France or England to win the EURO and move past USA for at least a little while.

      • Steglitz49

        The Americans agonize over FIFA rankings. The ROW don’t.

        When FIFA ignored their own rankings for WC-15, they lost any meaning they might have had.

      • JL

        Germany won the Euros in 2013 and ended up losing points in the following rankings due to losing to Norway in the group stage.

        And rankings/co-efficients matter when it comes to things like seeding for major tournaments. Canada won the CONCACAF championship in 2010 and were upset to find out that the US would be seeded for the WC draw instead of Canada because the US had a better ranking. Canada ended up in a group with Germany and France and finished the WC in last place. Had they been seeded instead of the US, they would have gotten a better group.

        Same with Sweden for the upcoming Euros. Heading into the final round of qualifying games, their co-efficient (the system UEFA uses to determine seedings for UEFA competitions) would have placed them as one of the 4 seeded teams for the draw. But their loss to Denmark on the final day dropped them behind England and out of the seeded group. And guess what? They were drawn with Germany instead of having an easier group.

        So yeah, good rankings can make a difference.

        • Steglitz49

          At the draw for WC-15 Sweden should have been seeded but FIFA decided to ignore their own protocol and lifted up Brazil and demoted Sweden. FIFA’s rankings are void.

          As for Sweden meeting Germany in the group stage of Euro-17, that is all for the good because provided both advance, they can’t meet again till the final. In a paradoxical way, Sweden may have benefitted from this.

  • Som Termanni

    The Guardian follows up on Britain’s experiment of girls and boys teams playing each other in U10 and U12, with Arsenal Ladies’ developmental clubs already reporting positive results: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/24/arsenal-ladies-girls-boys-under-10s-under-12s

    • Gary Diver

      “It is not helping you to improve if you win 20-0 or 30-0. It is better to lose 1-0 against the boys”

      Interesting. But one issue is that boys and girls mature physically at different rates. Often girls are bigger and stronger than boys in 5th and 6th grades, but then “boom” and the boys shoot past the girls.

      Isn’t it true that no national women’s team has beaten a U16 boys team?

    • Bruce

      So much truth in this. I would’ve let my girl practice only with boys up to U13 if I could’ve found a way. The development value of just one session with faster/stronger boys is worth several weeks of training in an all girls environment, IMHO.

      • Steglitz49

        1 girl and 10 boys is a ratio of 10:1. In countries where there is sex-selected abortion, the natural ratio between boys and girls is skewed but I had not yet heard that it has reached 10:1.

        Also, if your girl uses up 10 boys — indeed really 21 boys if it is a full match — how do the other girls get the same level of practice?

        • Bruce

          Steg, there’s no way I can respond to an off color comment – particularly if it’s in the context of my kid.

          • mockmook

            I cannot begin to fathom where such a twisted comment came from — please ignore or block the S49 troll

          • Steglitz49

            Please see my exegesis. I simply took his statement to its logical conclusion.

          • mockmook

            “logical”

            LOL

            Try:

            fevered
            twisted
            perverted
            sick
            strange
            etc

            You really should have someone else at the institute read your comments before you submit them and let you know if you sound unhinged before hitting POST

          • Steglitz49

            He wanted his daughter only to practice only with boys. What does that mean? His daughter alone with a whole bunch of boys which means 1+10 vs 11 or 1 girl and 21 boys.

            How on earth are the other 21 girls going to learn? The 21 who did not get to practice only against boys.

          • mockmook

            Just do the decent thing, just shut up and withdraw your original comment.

          • Steglitz49

            I am waiting for Bruce to expand on his comment.

          • Steg Watch

            We await the end of your lifelong pursuit of being a troll. Please explain your comment about grandma’s condoms.

          • Steglitz49

            The oral contraceptive pill was introduced in the US in1960 by Searle. It was originally only allowed for regulating irregular periods. The number of women with this diagnosis rose exponentially so eventually the label was adjusted to reflect reality.

            The pill came to Australia and Germany in 1961 coutresty of ScheringAG, I believe. By 1964 most western countries had the pill.

            A lady born in 1942 is 75 today. That is old enough for a grandma, is it not?

          • Steglitz49

            I took your statement that “I would’ve let my girl practice only with boys up to U13 if I could’ve found a way” at face value. One (1) girl and 21 boys is a ratio of 1:21 or <5%.

            Now if it were 10+1 vs 10+1 then it is 2:20 or ca 10%.

            How are the other girls gonna learn? Is soccer more popular among boys than girls in the US? Even in Europe, I doubt that the ratio is 10 to 1.

            Garnted 11 girls vs 11 boys, jumbled up a bit is 1:1. maybe that was what you meant?

        • mockmook

          As you often say:

          Kindly withdraw your comment.

          Comments like these are why I rarely read what you write, and even more rarely respond.

          • Steglitz49

            If one girl gets to practice with 21 boys, then 21 girls miss out — unless there are tons of boys lining up to practice with them.

      • Tom F

        actually girls can keep up with the majority of boys till u12 It’s at a girl’s late 12 & 13 years of age when you see them developing differently as boys start being blessed with more firmer, stronger body development. I coached girl all the way up to u14, and was shocked with of a sudden all the injuries happening to them at the slightest moves. It’s a shame they don’t allow girls to stay at the small sided game(like at u12 & under) until they ‘re bodies get used to their development as the change to the full side(at u13) can put undue stress on them

        • Steglitz49

          To be fair, it seems that WoSo is in good health as far as the technical development of players is concerned, as witness matches becoming more even.

          The real issue is whether ACL-injuries and other injuries take too big a toll in WoSo?

          A lot of work has been done on developing exercises to reduce the risk of and prevent injuries but coaches must ensure that the young ladies do these religiously.

          What is really needed is some test to predict that a girl when she gets to 15-16 or preferably even earlier will be at increased risk of injury, so she can opt for a safer sport. This applies to basket-, floor- and handball as well.

        • Bruce

          Agreed. The risk of injury is the reason why I would not continue exclusive training with boys after U13. Knee joint instability, in particular, is so severe in girls of middle school age that injury prevention is actually listed as the number one priority for coaches at that stage under the USSF’s development plan.

          Speaking from personal experience, I know what it means to have to shut down your daughter from all sports at that age to allow ligament length and stabilization muscle development catch up with sudden bone growth.

          FWIW, I also coached up to U12. Only a blind man couldn’t recognize the difference in joint stability between that age and U14. Lots of blind men coaching girls soccer, unfortunately.

      • Silver Frost

        Yes, humans excel when faced with adversity and the need to adapt. Even the WNT needs to train vs. better players, and at that point the only ones left are male.

  • Gary Diver

    One Shoe Down

    If USWNT drops to 3rd or 4th, many heads need to fall. USWNT’s position in the world is approaching the worst it has been in 15 years. When are the excuses going to end?

    1. Ellis needs to go.
    2. Allocation tenture system/CBA needs to go.
    3. USWNT needs a major shake up on how they approach soccer at all levels.

    • HOFCToDi

      Americans don’t care.

      Sports TV Ratings for Wednesday, 1 March 2017
      USWNT, FS1 – 310,000 viewers

      sportstvratings.com/cavs-celtics-rockets-clippers-pardon-the-interruption-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-wednesday-march-1-2017/7663/

      Sports TV Ratings for Tuesday, 7 March 2017
      USWNT, FS1 – 279,000 viewers

      sportstvratings.com/wwe-smackdown-st-marys-gonzaga-sportscenter-top-cable-sports-ish-tv-ratings-for-tuesday-march-7-2017/7711/

      • Silver Frost

        I looks like several hundred thousand people care. That’s enough for a niche advertising market.

        • Steglitz49

          300,000 in a country of 315m does not amount to a hill of beans, does it?

          0.1%. Like only 10,000 would watch the Swedish WNT, when the record is 45%.

    • NYRick

      I see where you are going with this, and you may be right, but if we are going to strictly go by results in this year’s SBC last time I checked the US beat Germany. How do they leapfrog the US following that recent loss. Yes, the US was outplayed by France, but England nipped them at the gun or else that is a draw with no goals allowed in the first two matches. Not defending or apologizing for them, but it’s not the true disaster it is being made out to be.

      For one, we all know Ellis got it all wrong. I do agree that she needs to go but I highly doubt it until after WC19. Secondly, the 3 backline was just plain stupid to experiment against with this type of comp. Especially with the people she had back there who were really untested in that formation to begin with. So yes, the US is quite capable of falling all the way to 4th in true rankings following WC19, but I still kind of believe in these players and the talent on the squad. It can easily turn around in their favor, but I would like to see Ellis go. I think that’s necessary now and gives you the right amount of time before WC19.

      • Steglitz49

        Japan never got higher than rank #3. Not even after the WC-11 success. After OG-12 their ranking points fell.

      • Tom F

        under FIFA’s wacky rules, it’s all about the points! So even if Germany is #1, they also lost points(3) due to their 0-1 defeat at the hands of the US. But the US lost more points because of their twin defeats and of course most notably, loosing 0-3 to Frnce

        • Steglitz49

          Verily. It can be better not to qualify for a major tournament than to lose 1-2 in the final!

          During OG-12, Japan lost points because they tied with South-Africa but because Germany did not even participate in OG-12 (it was France, Sweden and Gbr from UEFA who qualified) Germany did not lose any points.

        • Steglitz49

          How good is Turid Knaak? I see she is moving from Bayer Leverkusen to Essen. Turid had great success early in her career but who is keeping her out of the senior team? Popp? DZ? Däbritz?

          • Hugo

            A terrible injury stopped her the last 1 1/2 years. In a friendly against the dutch team of Zwolle the goalie of Zwolle broke her leg. It happened just some weeks after she was called into the national team for the first time

            She was out for a very long time and has just started to play again recently.

          • Steglitz49

            Thank you. How sad. Let’s hope she can get back to her old form. Abby Wambach broke her leg and missed OG-08. (I think Boris Becker broke his leg and lost a year aged 16 or 17.)

          • Tom F

            pretty blond, typical German fwd as she’s very technical, but not athletic, or quick enough to make it let’s say in the NWSL. All the best players are deserting Bayer Leverkusen since it looks like their heading to the 2nd division come next season. Wonder where their other hot blond is headed too?: the GK Anne Klink(nope, no relation to Colonel Klink!)

        • Craigaroo

          FIFA’s women’s ranking system is actually considered pretty good, one of the better ones out there, according to most experts who study these things

      • Einstein

        So if you really would went strictly by results of the SBC you would have noticed that Germany besides the loss against the US won against England and got a draw against France (by outplaying France A team with their B team).

        Then you would have had a chance to realize that the US lost from England and from France.

        So if you would be capable of understanding the entire picture of the SBC you would have understood why Germany leapfrogged the US.

        There was another indication. Even not that complex. Germany became second, the US last

      • kernel_thai

        Germany didn’t leap anywhere…in fact they dropped back a point. It was the US who ldid the leaping, back 35 points. The formula also gives more weight to home losses than home wins. Ironically, if this had happened at Algarve the US might still be #1.

        • NYRick

          Good point on the home losses playing a part, wasn’t taking that into account. However, I’m not a big fan of the “home” thing in soccer. Too much emphasize placed on it. Especially for the away goals in any CL or Europa League tie in the men’s game. A goal is a goal and should carry the same weight on road or at home. And a loss is a loss, regardless if home or away.

          • guest

            How can you not think that the home field advantage plays a role? Germany played them after flying in the day before… they were probably still jetlagged. The games they played against ENG/FRA was much more competitive.

          • DNG

            I think it makes a pretty big difference for things like qualifiers and one off matches. I do wonder if the home field advantage holds up over the length of a full tournament. It should for the SBC matches though.

          • Steglitz49

            It did not work for the US in 2003 nor Germany in 2011 nor Brazil’s men in 2014 — nor Germany’s men in 2006 too.

        • Craigaroo

          Definitely. If this happened at Algarve, US would definitely be still #1. But I’m not complaining – US superiority has definitely vanished for the moment.

          • mockmook

            Indeed “for the moment”

            Put the right coach and players in there and the USA would be back a #1 in a heartbeat.

    • Steglitz49

      Though stranger things have happened, it is difficult to see the US falling to #3 or #4 because essentially it would mean an Eng-Fra Euro final ending in a draw and settled by a pso. For that to happen, Germany must lose, which would lower their points. The US only plays friendlies this year, which are not so expensive to lose in.

      You may well be right that JE needs to go but I doubt that she would be shown the door until the US does badly in WC-19.

      The CBA/MOU is still humming along. Nothing has happened and probably nothing will happen.

      It is the USMNT that needs a major shake-up, not the WNT. This is because the big money is in the men’s WC. For some countries not getting to the fleshpots of the WC is becoming a dangerous downward spiral, like for Sweden. Denmark, Norway and Hungary are in the danger zone too.

      As HOFCToDi shows, BroSo is more popular than WoSo in the US. More Americans know who Zlatan is than Crystal Dunn.

  • AlexH

    At least now the federation and the commentators can no longer refer endlessly to the #1 ranked USWNT. Self Awareness is the first step to a cure as they say.

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  • NYRick

    The descent begins…??

    • Calci0

      Wasn’t the US knocked out of 1st before…. They made it back.

      • NYRick

        The comeback begins…??

        • mockmook

          Yes, they are going to try to get Lloyd on the field more…

          • Steglitz49

            Man City sure were grateful.

          • rkmid71

            Like a pyrrhic victory?

          • kernel_thai

            R u planning to add extra time to friendlies??? : )

      • Kevin

        They’ve been knocked out of first a few times, but never worse than #2.

        • Steglitz49

          Let’s ponder these rankings in piece and kweijet.
          ………….Points
          NT……New…..Old
          Ger..,.2108….2109
          USA…2105….2140
          Fra…..2072….2041
          Eng…..2022…2030
          Can….2017….2031
          Jap…..1977….1982
          Swe….1977….1977
          Aus…..1976….1984

          The message is pretty clear.

          • Kevin

            The message is pretty clear. USA played terrible and moved down, France played great and moved up.

          • mockmook

            Shocking!!!!

          • Steglitz49

            You could turn it around and look at it from another angle. There is a top trio of Ger, USA and Fra. Then a duo of Can and Eng. Finally another trio of Aus, Jap and Swe.

            It also shows how little penetration WoSo has in Latin-American countries.

    • dw

      Will Ellis’ luck, FRA and GER will bomb out of the Euros and USWNT will back into #1 again.

      • Steglitz49

        If Sweden or England beat either or both of those, either or both might well climb above the US.

      • CED

        The rankings for men and women are suspect and are more of a general range..top 5, etc… The calculation for women is even more suspect than men b/c for women they have to fudge things b/c for example Euro teams have 10-12 game to qualify for Wcup, and Euros which US has 5 game tourney for Wcup, OG and no federation championship like others do. In any set time period Euro, S. Americam, Asian teams play more game of importance..ie qualifiers than Concacaf.

        • Randy W

          They didn’t reach the semis at the Olympics and became last at the SBC.

          Do you really want to discuss that they are not #1 due to the unfair calculations?

          • CED

            Try reading comprehension..I don’t care about rankings, they are inherently fraudulent as explained for men and women. They only really give a range. They are about as valid as all other sports polls they do in college sports. People get caught up in them, and you are sounding like one of them. Winning actual tournaments or championships is what matters, not polls/rankings. Ie…the US has been ranked by the formula #1 in the last 4 Wcups and won 1 of them. In the same period Germany has not been #1 by the formula and won 2 Wcups.

          • Steglitz49

            Not to forget Japan who never has gotten beyond #3.

            As for Sweden, who cares for a small country far away about which we know little? FIFA certainly didn’t in WC-15.

          • Craigaroo

            Why “fraudulent”? Just because they can’t predict results with 100% accuracy? a) it’s sports, there are things called upsets which apparently you haven’t noticed, b) ratings are actually closer to 100% accuracy than you think because they’re probability based and expect (predict) a certain % of upsets based on how big the rating difference is between two teams.

          • DNG

            I don’t think they are fraudulent but I don’t think the rankings are all that important. NT’s don’t play lots of matches in a league format(maybe the US does) so I would think there’s a lot more variance in tracking who is the best team over the course of the year. I think France has probably been the most talented team for at least a couple of years now even if the results have said otherwise.

          • Craigaroo

            If teams played in a league format, you wouldn’t really care about the ratings because the table is what matters. You try to make use of ratings to compare teams when there isn’t a table.
            European teams (and to some extent Asian counterparts) play lot more meaningful matches than US because of the number of qualifiers not only for the world cup but their continental championships (Euros in the case of Europe)

          • DNG

            Right I’m not disputing any of that. I just think that rankings have their limitations in any sports setting. I think there’s too much variance to give them too much meaning. They give us a rather broad evaluation of these teams

          • Steglitz49

            Touché!

          • kernel_thai

            It’s not the funny math it’s the funny schedule. For this system to work they need the other Feds should be holding their own versions of Euros to balance out the weighted calculations. Instead u get voodoo adjustments to try and balance out the fact that UEFA is the only one doing anything meaningful this year.

        • Craigaroo

          People who study these things generally think the women’s rating/ranking system is actually better than the men’s.

  • NYRick

    Hey off topic a bit, but has anyone starting to watch the UConn women’s b-ball team series on HBO? It’s really great and I didn’t realize that Geno has the team practicing daily against a pretty decent men’s team (good HS players or some who almost made the senior UConn men’s team). That’s really smart for female athletes of this caliber. I know this is a big debate, but I kind of think our USWNT should be practicing a bit against good boy’s HS teams (and I mean really good) or good pickup college soccer teams at certain universities. Geno obviously knows what he’s doing and that’s the type of coach needed for the USWNT.

    • Steglitz49

      About 10 years ago Alex Morgan injured her knee (ACL I think) in a practice match against the men’s junior national team and lost about a year.

      For women to practice against men’s teams a bt younger than them selves is as old as the hills in WoSo. There is nothing new under the sun.

    • Silver Frost

      All the big D1 women’s B ball teams have been training with men for decades.

      I believe the French and English WNTs scrimmage vs. the male U-17s.

    • CED

      Been a UConn fan for 20+ years. The HBO series is okay, not nearly as good as the 10-12 episodes per year done by SNY on the Geno Auriemma show. On the show you get deep dive into team practices, players, Geno rants and his guru thoughts. Here’s a link if interested http://uconnhuskygames.com/wbb-the-geno-auriemma-show/

  • Miami66

    Well I’d say France are the true #1 team at this moment. Of course, its all about the EURO now. If Germany wins again, the more impressive form of France & England will mean little.

    • DNG

      Like someone said below FIFA rankings are always behind due to how they are calculated. I think France has been the best team for at least a year if not longer but they have had a difficult time getting results in the recent major tournaments.

      • Steglitz49

        You type — “but they have had a difficult time getting results in the recent major tournaments” — like 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015 and 2016. I guess in geological terms, 8 years counts as recent.

      • Miki

        The same can be said about Argentina and Belgium on the men’s side, but they’ve been No. 1 in recent years/months

    • kernel_thai

      The only important ranking comes in September after the close of the FIFA year. The other three just keep Coke happy.

  • Bruce

    Bruce Arenas just showed what can happen when you give players the comfort and confidence that comes when they play in their natural positions.

    Let’s hope a certain other NT coach was watching.

    • #1Fan

      Or maybe Honduras are just bad.

      • HOFCToDi

        Or maybe you are an idiot.

        • JL

          That was rude.

          • HOFCToDi

            Insulting the competition is rude. Honduras qualified for the 2014 FIFA World Cup. Honduras qualified for the 2016 Rio Olympics.

  • Bruce

    21 days to the NWSL season – no official word on streaming.
    24 hours to Thorns Invitational – no official word on streaming.

    • DNG

      I think the Thorn’s twitter account responded to someone that the Thorns matches will be streamed on youtube.

      Edit: They actually said they would be streaming the Sunday match on their website. Here’s the Tweet.

      https://twitter.com/ThornsFC/status/845473511607029761

      • mockmook

        Well that’s too much info for me to process — perhaps they should have broken it into more digestible bits…

        • DNG

          I’ll take what I can get at this point

          • Bruce

            Since CRS has abandoned camp reporting and doesn’t have preseason game planned within 2 hours of Chicago, I’ll be watching. Weird that they are only mentioning this via tweet replies.

          • DNG
          • mockmook

            Well, this did actually provide a tidbit of info (indirectly).

            It appears that this confirms that regular season games will not be on YouTube.

          • DNG

            That’s what I took from it as well along with the pretty obvious fact that the lifetime system isn’t ready yet. You’d think that preseason games would be the perfect time to test out a new streaming method

          • kernel_thai

            As I mentioned at this exact point last year, I know it isn’t my money but it’s a short sighted view. IMO there r three stages to building Woso in the country fan wise. First was getting them to watch the NT which has worked. The next is getting ur home fans to watch ur club and Portland does a better job than anyone. The third marker is getting fans to watch matches that don’t include ur home or national team just to see good soccer. That’s where the US is failing at this point. Just look at the light attendance for the non US matches at SBC. If we were developing the kind of true woso fans that it takes to make woman’s soccer a success in this country, it starts by getting fans to watch games where they have no rooting interest.

          • rkmid71

            “Just to see good soccer” — agree with this. But it starts by teams actually playing good entertaining soccer. It’s more than just winning — it’s both. Many on this forum don’t seem to care about the good soccer part.

          • Steglitz49

            In preseason, entertaining is OK. For real,nothing beats winning. Ask the USWNT, the SweWNT or the Nadeshiko if you don’t believe me. Heck, also the Canadian lasses.

          • rkmid71

            The Holy Grail is the UConn women’s b-ball team. Extreme winning PLUS some of the highest quality, entertaining basketball you can imagine. Male or Female. Similar to Russia hockey under Tarasov. Or even Golden State Warriors in the NBA today. And maybe the Mighty Magyars — but I didn’t see them play.

          • Steglitz49

            We lived in CT 15-16 years ago and I still have my Huskies (baseball) cap.

            Then we moved to NJ.

    • tonysocref

      It’s official:
      Thorns posted link for stream for the Thorns vs Red Stars match this morning. Match starts at 5:00 PT

      http://www.timbers.com/post/2017/03/26/match-stream-thorns-fc-host-chicago-red-stars-thorns-spring-invitational-presented

  • Ching

    France is the best team in the world right now and could get much better leading up to the WC they figure out the system now. There is a reason why the Germans prefers a one team Budesliga all of their best players always playing together a one competitive team in the CL and WC, France is almost playing like a club team most of their best players are playing or former player for Lyon same formula also works for Spain when they won the WC, 7 players from Barcelona others from Real Madrid the rest (David Villa) eventually play for Barcelona.

    • CED

      Take your meds. France has never won anything.

      • Tom F

        why the harsh comment?(especially to the op) After last year’s failure at the Olympics, France changed coaches and switched to a much faster paced, direct style game. They’ve got the right balance of athleticism & technique to do it. What other woso player stands 6 ft 3 and still as agile as Wendie Renard? They got the fastest woso player in the world in Eloise Thomis, as well as some of the best technical ones like Abiliy, Majri & Le Sommer. They’re new FB, Karchaoui, was able to keep up with speedsters like Pugh & Lavelle. They got the #1 youth player as well in Cascarino. France beat the US in it’s own game, but was successfully able to transition to defense when anytime threatened(something previous FR coaches couldn’t do). Not saying that France can’t be beat(but you really got to socut them for weaknesses), but I do believe they’ve set the standard right now

        • Steglitz49

          Euro-17 will provide the bottom line but CED is correct in noting that 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015 and 2016 have been washouts for France.

      • guest

        Neither has Christen Press

        • uh

          the world cup?

          • guest

            did she even play? I don’t recall her doing much. Carli Lloyd won the world cup.

          • mockmook

            Wow, Carli Lloyd single-handedly beat all the other teams?

          • ARED

            Yes, she certainly was (not) the reason they made it out of the group stage. But USA fans don’t seem to find Solo, Leroux, Press, or Rapinoe very fashionable these days -but Lloyd has been granted the “unquestioned” status.

          • Steglitz49

            Key goals in WC-15, OG-12 and OG-08 gives you that rather, a bit like Alexandra the Great’s most famous goal being a header and the 2nd most being right-footed.

          • ARED

            It should give you an unquestioned place in history, but maybe not an unquestioned place in the team from that day on?

          • Steglitz49

            Verily. It is always hard to fillet a POTY not least when she scores for her club.

          • DNG

            Guilty on Leroux. I have no problem with Solo as a soccer player it’s the other stuff that bothers me even if I think the after the game interview was more or less an excuse to boot her out. Still, she had plenty of chances. I do think her form was starting to dip though so it makes sense to try and develop other keepers and give Naeher some minutes. Rapinoe needs to prove she’s match fit and can still contribute but I think she’s class when fit. I think Press should be starting but I’m probably one of only a few.

          • kernel_thai

            The US won the WC based on defense and scoring off set pieces, two things the US isn’t very good at any more. Instead, Ellis lays awake at night trying to figure how to get 11 players into her anemic attack.

          • guest

            People used to complain so much about Holiday but she is missed on set pieces.

          • sara

            she scored the game winner against australia

          • guest

            That game was all Pinoe and Leroux doing the work to slot one in to Press who was hovering in the box. Press was poor in the WC and OG, but she didn’t get a ton of playing time either.

          • ARED

            Of course, she was playing midfield at that moment and ran the 50 yards to find herself “hovering” in the box….Wambach was the forward, and could not cover the ground to get in the box. As you mention, it may have been interesting if Press had played as a forward instead of Wambach.

  • HOFCToDi

    Sunil Gulati on his way to four more years.

    CONCACAF president Montagliani: Joint Copa America talks ‘beyond preliminary’

    sbisoccer.com/2017/03/concacaf-president-montagliani-joint-copa-america-talks-beyond-preliminary

    CONCACAF president Victor Montagliani says talks for another joint Copa America are “beyond preliminary” with the earliest potential joint tournament coming in 2020. According to ESPN, U.S. Soccer is open to hosting again after making $46 million in profit from hosting the tournament.

    cha-ching! cha-ching! cha-ching!

    Meanwhile, the women’s program will wither on the vine.

    • Steglitz49

      What happens in BroSo in 2019 that prevents a Copa America?

      • HOFCToDi

        Figure it out, dumbass.

        • Steglitz49

          2018 is the World Cup and 2020 OG for U23 for BroSo but 2019 is a void unless you mean the ladies WC in France.

  • HOFCToDi

    Steglitz49 suffers from delusions of grandeur.

    Sweden failed to qualify for the 2010 FIFA World Cup.

    Sweden failed to qualify for the 2014 FIFA World Cup.

    Sweden finished bottom of Group D at UEFA Euro 2012.

    Sweden finished bottom of Group E at UEFA Euro 2016.

    Never has a poster boasted of such grandiose failure.

    • Steglitz49

      Remember the Glorious 12th aka Bomb in Brasilia aka Miracle on Grass.

      • CED

        For the 100th time calling a this miracle is actually showing how little you think of Sweden . You’re of course not smart enough to realize that. You think you’re bragging about Sweden. Btw, you’re getting made to be a fool by Hotctodi, the guy who spams on Press on a daily basis.

        • Steglitz49

          OG-16 was the USWNT worst major tournament ever. Worst. Ever.

          Sweden put them too the sword. Even the inept ref crew could not steal the match the way the OG-12 final was.

          • Bill

            No. It spells misplaced obsessive neediness

          • Steglitz49

            Tell that to the USWNT who instead of $275,000 had to be satisfied with about $150,000, if that even.

          • Bill

            They have other money. What’s more their money will grow. You only have one reputation.
            You are smart enough to do better.

          • Steglitz49

            What other money? The superstars like Alex and Carli, yes. A few of the others maybe, but not a lot, and the rest precious little.

          • Bill

            OK take a few days. Do you realize that if anyone only met you their conclusion would be that Swedes were annoying and obnoxious?

            You represent yourself and Sweden really badly.

            In addition to the troll routine: Bad at analyzing ( which requires balance and perspective), bad at debating, bad at self awareness.

            Why arent you on a Swedish site 24/7 ? Why not start one? Do you call your routine a contribution to this community?

            Whats really dumb is that you obviously could do so much better. Try it. You will feel better

          • HOFCToDi

            Steglitz49 is a lost cause.

          • Steglitz49

            I thought you considered a certain USWNT player a lost cause.

          • Steglitz49

            Remember the Glorious 12th just like all Canadians must be mindful of 8-1 in 1981.

          • HOFCToDi

            The stupid Swede is a worthless troll.

          • Steglitz49

            I don’t pay the USWNT memebers but Lyon is paying Alex (and Buchanan), Man City, Carli, Chelsea Crystal and the Gunners HAO plus the Glaswegians Savannah. Yeehaw.

          • HOFCToDi

            It’s so easy to rile up the stupid Swede.

          • Steglitz49

            Remember the Glorious 12th, a date that will live in WoSo history.

          • CED

            Take your meds. You are showing you’re dumber than usual. It was a draw, that’s how it goes in the records. The US couldn’t have played worse and Sweden played to their max and they got a draw. You’re not smart enough to know by your incessant comments on this as a miracle that you’re just putting the inferiority complex you have and that you have for your country on full display.

          • Steglitz49

            Japan won WC-11 in the same fashion on pso. The US advanced to the SF in WC-11 on a pso.

          • guest

            “A bunker is strategy admitting you’re inferior”
            Are you too stupid to see this?

        • Gustavus Obstante

          We’ll see how SWE does in the Euros. I can’t wait.

          • Steglitz49

            How does that help the USWNT? They are not in Euro-17.

          • HOFCToDi

            You don’t have to.

            2017 Algarve Cup

            us.women.soccerway.com/international/world/algarve-cup/2017/s12425/final-stages/

          • Steglitz49

            JE was not cut lose in spite of it being the very first OG that the USWNT did not medal in.

        • Steglitz49

          He is posting irrelevant junk. When he posts about his blessed white swimmers, I post about Simone Manuel and some top notch X-country skiers to leaven the pudding.

  • Chris Letts

    Disgusting, enough to make a grown man vomit!

  • HOFCToDi

    Total Soccer Show
    USMNT v Honduras Quick-Take-Hot-Take Review

    totalsoccershow.com/podcasts/usmnt-v-honduras-quick-take-hot-take-review/

    • rkmid71

      Thanks for this. My takeaway was the importance of having a plan. And the players all buying into that plan and knowing clearly their role and responsibilities. The difference that a good coach can make. Btw — it also reminded me why I’ve been advocating experimenting with Pugh in that Pulisic role. Explosive, quick dribbling. Pugh doesn’t have Pulisic technical skill (yet), but otherwise similar. Contrast that with Lloyd in that spot. It just slows the game down too much and is too easy to defend.

      • HOFCToDi

        Jill Ellis + Allie Long + 3-5-2 tactical formation equals the USWNT going completely off the rails. The last six months has been wasted on Allie Long when it would be better served developing Emily Sonnett in a four back formation.

        • Steglitz49

          As far as I know, not many of the USWNT defenders play in Europe. It is the attackers. Unless you class Crystal Dunn as a defender.

        • guest

          Agree Sonnett is the future at that position and the future is now!

      • HOFCToDi

        The “Deuce” has been cut loose!

      • guest

        Pugh and Pulisic are miles apart in player type. While I agree that Lloyd is a huge hairball in the drain of the team, I don’t think Pugh is the answer in that position. We saw what happened at her first u20 when she could not hold possession or create anything. French, whom we all probably could agree isn’t the most insightful coach, had to move her to the flank after one game. My opinion, she will be dispossessed too easily in the middle of the field. Going straight at players works well out wide against many teams, but the middle not so much. She doesn’t have enough tools in the box. also her vision is decent, but not true playmaker levels. I personally would like to see what Lavelle could do as a 10 after she gets a couple more games in and understands her teammates movement better. I would like to see how she would do combining with Horan, Press, Heath, Dunn with Pugh maybe coming off the bench as a burner.

        • guest

          I should say, unless they play Dunn as an overlapping wingback in a 433 or somevariation there. I would like to see her on the same side as Pugh. They could wreak havoc together on that flank.Further, no one could attack them efficiently on that side.

        • rkmid71

          Well I said experiment. I’d like to see someone in the middle that can turn and separate from defenders quickly but also has their head up to play passes to forwards making runs. It creates more havoc among the defenders. She’s more athletic and faster acceleration than Lavelle while Lavelle is more technical / more seasoned. I would try them both. I think they both have the right kind of mentality (unselfish) and make good quick decisions more often than most. Wasn’t Pugh supposed to be the best player in the history of U20WC competition? What happened to that? You’re saying that her ball skills and soccer iq / awareness are average. Please inform USSF to tone down the hype.

          • guest

            Lol. The USSF knows she doesn’t have the qualities at this time to be a successful 10. They tried and she didn’t succeed. Lavelle was the best player in that u20 WC. Stupidly, French moved Horan back into the 10 from her natural 9 instead of Lavelle forward into her natural 10 when Pugh was overwhelmed.
            But yeah, I agree mix it up and see what works.

          • DNG

            I think they were hoping she’d develop them which isn’t to say she still can’t but she also may never develop into a 10. All the more shocking to me that I have not seen much development at all over the last year. Maybe they should let her actually develop instead of asking her to play in every US soccer event she is allowed to play in.

          • rkmid71

            “They tried and she didn’t succeed.” — she has been successful at making the USWNT. But hasn’t succeeded in being the difference maker they envisioned. Why that’s a surprise is anybody’s guess — how many U17, U20 opportunities did she have without much success? The excuse was always age, except the last U20WC. That excuse no longer works. I agree they need to let her develop, not make that mistake again, and start giving more players opportunities.

          • #1Fan

            think i have said this too many times on this site. But the USSF will not do it. Instead they will shift to the next phenom – Pinto, Smith Sanchez and turn up the hype.

            Real development needs time to bed in. As DNG says, let her work on her game under less pressure. Its all about ROSTER management. you dont need to have every player playing at the highest possible level to have them develop. Pinto could be doing just fine playing for the U-20s. i see no reason she need to be in the SBC squad.

            The USA associate playing UP with being great. The treat the marathon of producing top class players as a sprint.

            Pugh has gone from being a talented young player to overrated very quickly. And i mean overrated vs the ludicrous expectations

            – greatest player in u-20 WWC history
            – best player on the USWNT already

          • rkmid71

            And the purpose of the hype is to demonstrate the development system is working? If so, their insecurity is unmatched ..as if they know it’s not working and their jobs are at stake. Maybe that’s why they are trying to take control with the GDA. Why would you hype before a player has proven themselves? As Kenny Smith says, “bring your game, not your name.” What has Pugh proven at U17, U20, or now with the USWNT? I don’t see Canada doing any of this with Fleming or anyone else. The only reason the perception of Pugh has changed is because of the ridiculous hype promoted by USSF. It’s like Freddie Adu, the next Pele. The very thing many on this forum warned about.

          • #1Fan

            i love your basketball analogies, they are often spot on . the key difference is one is a sport that has cultural significance in the USA . One that most people understand. the other is one that has almost no cultural significance and that very few care to understand.

          • rkmid71

            What’s your take of the success of the USA hosting of Copa America Centenario last year. Record attendance at games. Record TV viewership. Significant corporate sponsorship. I went to see a friendly between Real Madrid and DC United a few years ago — over 70,000 fans. I would say soccer has growing cultural significance.

            I like the basketball analogies because I know the sport as a player having grown up with it and played at a reasonably high level. However, I love watching soccer now (because of the kids) and have a much greater appreciation for the sport than I did 10 years ago and notice things I never would have appreciated before. And appreciate the kind of dedication and time it takes to achieve mastery (and make the game look fluid and easy and play faster and faster). Like basketball, it’s a beautiful game when played well with incredible moments where players can just create unpredictable magic (solo or in concert with teammates). Also, I’m a history buff and like learning about the soccer pioneers (immigrants Irish, Scots, Germans, etc) in the US back in the late 1800s.

          • #1Fan

            it has marketing significance.,So much so that for $$$ we are willing to totally bastardize the tradition of that event. Guys like Gulati and Stillitano are making $$ organizing these events . its somewhat sad, but the modern reality.

            The actual US product has not improved much imo.

          • #1Fan

            Romar managed to recruit well – Markelle Fultz – failing to win with it cost him what ? his job. the USSF folks, by contrast just carry on, hype someone else and hope you dont notice

          • rkmid71

            Who is the USSF really accountable to? Nobody as far as I can tell. I don’t think USSF folks even care if people notice.

          • #1Fan

            but thats the biggest irony/joke of all. They prey on nationalistic fervor and are accountable to us and yet , no one cares enough to actually pay attention. Its like one big propaganda machine that is selective in its output and uses it to craft a very specific message.

            Look at the men . JK gets fired for losing 2 tough Hex games, and yet now we are the greatest becasue we go back to Arena and he gets 2 easy ties. he brings back mostly LA Galaxy and MLS retreads and they win. You cannot assess then men on that performance, but now Pulisic is the greatest ever and all is right with the world.

            The Women have played poor quality soccer and eked out wins. Very few have cared about the quality of performances, just the results so we can go USA USA USA. Now, that we are not eking out the wins, we are in crisis. We were at a crossroads long ago. Sermanni saw it and got fired for trying to get ahead of it. Now you see JE and her random plan ( or lack thereof) and you just have to laugh at how fickle it all is.

            Gulati is the common denominator in all of this. a non soccer guy who manages by popularity as opposed to a soccer guy with a vision. He is clearly a clever man, but a politician. I think US soccer NEED a soccer person at the helm and a bean counter by his/her side.

            The Elllis issues etc are a function of the ultimate boss having no idea what she is doing and just looking at a W/L record. Its also a function of a program in which $$ are more important than performance.

          • DNG

            I don’t think Gulati is going anywhere and even if the board was unhappy with him, they would hand pick someone similar. The best we can hope for is that US Soccer hires two very good technical directors(one for men and one for women) and allows them to have control over soccer operations including removing coaches that need to be removed and getting rid of the silly camp benchmarks.

          • #1Fan

            so what you are saying is he cannot simply throw volume at the rest of the world the way the Women did 🙂 I agree. to be long term successful on the mens side you have to have good talent and great coaching.

            Its not April.This si going to be controversial, but I would like to see a man at this point. Di Cicco, Tambi, spring to mind.

          • DNG

            That is exactly what I’m saying about JK. He did not have 3-4 different competitive starting XI’s worth of players to chose from that will make the US men’s team a top ten team. I’d argue that JE does.

            Are you talking about DiCicco and Tambi as coaches or TDs? I don’t understand the resistance to male coaches at all by the way. Most of the NT players seem to like their male NWSL coaches just fine. The Reign are the only team in the league with a female head coach.

          • #1Fan

            probably TDs .

          • DNG

            Old article on Tambi but I like a lot of what he says here.

            https://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/18/us-womens-coach-pleads-for-better-skilled-players/

            I’m not a huge fan of DiCicco the coach but I do remember him doing a doing a good analytic write up on the state of the game in the US when he was overseeing the youth teams. Specifically criticizing areas of deficiency in American players overall. He might be able to work things out from the top so I’d give it a try.

          • #1Fan

            2009. 8 yrs on, have we moved the needle much ? he seemed to be capable of seeing that ta team that was Koed in the QF had better players than he did.

            Understood the longer term ramifications. Soccer is still driven by the $$$. More than ever, especially at youth level. we do not select the best players there, we select those that can pay. No one has any real skin in the game except parents . Clubs know that attracting parents who dont know the game revolves around winning, so thats all they focus on. The GDA originally sounded promising, but is not free. It should be 25 pct of the size and free. As constructed its ECNL part 2.

          • DNG

            Well if were relying on parents to know the game better it will be a quite a few generations before that happens in this country. Soccer is only really starting to pick up now in popularity with the young adults crowd and even then I doubt many people will actually care enough to really understand the game. The only thing I believe will really foster change in this country is a successful women’s professional league and professional teams with an interest in developing players here. I think it would be big if City Football Group and others like them started to set up youth academies with the goal of turning youth players into professionals.

          • #1Fan

            CFG have an affiliate league. I believe they do have boys Acad and they now have girls as well. Time will tell. Tambi is the DoC of NYCFC GDA

          • DNG

            On the women’s side the one thing that kind of worries me is that NYCFC does not have professional women’s team at this time and probably won’t have one until they have a permanent home. The incentive to develop homegrown professionals won’t be as high as it could be until they have one. I’m guessing you approve of Tambi as the Director of Coaching? If he’s able to do a good job of developing players there I might actually prefer him working for a club.

          • #1Fan

            He is involved at an ECNL club already and built many successful Club sides pre his Seton hall days. He is a known in the Club soccer world. On NYCFC I dont agree. they have womens sides elsewhere in the world and have Every incentive to develop top female players. In fact more so than any other team in many ways given the College system here. Its not like the direct to pro route is open in the USA . They could take kids straight to the FAWSL team if they wanted to.

            The draft rules make it a bit pointless for any team to develop its own talent

          • DNG

            Okay I’ll concede on CFG’s motivation. Would Americans want to go to the FAWSL right now though? I agree on the draft rules but the NWSL could easily add a homegrown rule like the MLS to keep that path open.

          • #1Fan

            I agree, Ive said all along. The only way to produce top players is to make people financially accountable for doing so. In the USA, the parents are paying and no one is accountable.

          • DNG

            I definitely agree with this. Only way for country wide change is to change the status quo here. There will likely be a lot of opposition to this though since youth sports is a very lucrative business in this country for all sports really. The only way I see real change happening is a viable league. I would much prefer US Soccer to pump any excess USWNT money into the league instead of making the the players at the top wallet’s fatter with the goal of the league eventually standing on it’s own. And I would make sure there is a path for a youth player in a club’s development system to their first team.

            I do think I should point out that basketball is able to run their AAU leagues while producing very good basketball players. I guess I would naturally wonder if they could actually be better if a pro team was responsible for developing them at young ages. I’m guessing the answer is yes and that the US just has a nearly insurmountable cultural and numerical advantage in the sport.

          • DNG

            Hockey is probably a better example actually. The have never(and probably will never) produced the number of great hockey players that Canada has.

          • rkmid71

            In the long run, the $$ and the performance are highly correlated. You can’t market a crappy product for long. Agree that the margin for error was always thin — and the combination of having subpar coaching, selecting not fit players or a CBA system that results in selecting unfit, past their prime players, having a seriously flawed player id youth system, etc seems to be catching up to the USWNT. Of course, the USSF can just attribute it not to any shortfall or deficiency on their own part, just the rest of world getting better or simply caring more about WoSo.

  • NYRick

    Rankings should be done much like the NCAA does them for college football and basketball. In other words, what have you done for me lately. You lose a game to a ranked team, you drop lower and said winning ranked team moves up. The recent SBC was a major tournament of the top teams “at this moment in time.” Not early last year, not even last September. That’s what it should be based on. The 4 teams coming into the SBC should have viewed it as a rankings tournament of the top teams. To the victor, go the spoils.

    In a real ranking system “at this moment in time” for women’s soccer I would have it (and I’m sure most would): 1) France 2) Germany 3) US 4) England 5) Canada. However soccer is one of those sports that really move slowly and relies on old results and reputations. Let’s face it the US lost to Sweden (maybe #5) at the OG and then had two losses to top 4 teams at SBC in a short time span. And they certainly wanted to win all those games and tried hard to do so.

    Main thing is that rankings matter very much to the USSF when it comes to women’s soccer. This is a hit, no doubt.

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    According to Firefox, EQ is not secure for log in. Log ins on this site could be compromised, mostly because EQ does not offer https.

    • Bruce

      Who logs in to the EQ? Comments use Disqus.

  • HOFCToDi

    Lars Lagerbäck is a LOSER! Lars Lagerbäck has sent Norway to its GRAVE!

    us.soccerway.com/international/europe/wc-qualifying-europe/2018-russia/1st-round/group-c/g8856/

  • HOFCToDi

    Danny Blind fired as coach of Dutch football team

    http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/03/26/danny-blind-fired-as-coach-dutch-football-team.html

    The Dutch football association fired national coach Danny Blind on Sunday, a day after his team’s humiliating 2-0 defeat to Bulgaria in a World Cup qualifier in Sofia.

    So Sunil, what is taking so long? Note the key word, humiliating.

    • Steglitz49

      Blind man’s buff?