USWNT honors Rampone, loses 1-0 to England late

The Equalizer Staff March 4, 2017 310

HARRISON, NJ. — Ellen White cleaned up a mess inside the six-yard box one minute from full-time to give England a 1-0 upset of the United States in SheBelieves Cup play on Saturday at Red Bull Arena. The play started with a corner kick that the U.S. easily cleared but Lucy Bronze collected it at the top of the 18 and hammered a shot off the crossbar. Morgan Brian took a bad touch trying to clear, with a little help from Julie Johnston moving into her line of site, and White stuck it in for the only goal across two games on a bitterly cold day in New Jersey.

Prior to the match, US Soccer played a video tribute to Christie Rampone who spent 19 years with the national team, the last eight as captain. Rampone and her daughters made a brief appearance next to a mounted No. 3 Rampone jersey. Abby Wambach surprised Rampone by being at the match and presented her with flowers. Heather O’Reilly and Nicole Barnhart were also on hand at Red Bull Arena.

Ironically, the loss for the U.S. was the team’s first outright defeat since losing 1-0 to China in Wambach’s final match on December 16, 2015. Despite being eliminated in the quarterfinals of last summer’s Olympic games, that match went to penalties and goes on the books as a draw. The result was also the first setback for the U.S. in the SheBelieves Cup while England collected their first in in the tournament.

Jill Ellis tinkered with her personnel for the match but continued her commitment to lining up with three center backs. But among the defenders who started against Germany, only Becky Sauerbrunn returned to the field. Julie Jonston took Allie Long’s spot in the center of the trio while Ali Krieger got the nod wide left in place of Casey Short. In goal, Ashlyn Harris replaced Alyssa Naeher.

Harris and her English counterpart Siobhan Chamberlain both made show-stopping saves in the first half to keep each other’s sides off the board.

First up was Chamberlain. After scampering across the goal mouth to follow a Crystal Dunn cross she was forced to reach back the other way and parry Rose Lavelle’s shot up and over.

Next came Harris. Johnston put a soft clearance on an England free kick and Nikita Paris took it down, split two defenders, and laced a shot only to be denied by a cat-like Harris.

The U.S. dropped to 9-4-1 all-time against England. Saturday was the first time England has defeated the U.S. in the United States.

Earlier on Saturday, Sarah Bouhaddi stopped a Mandy Islacker penalty in the first half and made several other key plays to thwart a vibrant German attack and steal a 0-0 draw for France. The French now lead the SheBelieves Cup and will win if they defeat the United States on Tuesday at RFK Stadium or if they draw and England does not beat Germany. The Germans are eliminated from winning the SheBelieves Cup.

  • Ethan

    I was uncomfortable with Lavelle holding the ball for so long early in the game on the touchline, but her footwork and her passes (especially the lob to Dunn at the end of the first half) were great for the most part. (She did cheaply give the ball away in the buildup to England’s goal, but so many things had to still happen for England to score.) Plus, she also showed some good hustle (i.e. robbing Scott in the second half), and I really like how comfortable she is with using her right foot. One last comment is that I actually thought Lavelle was better and more involved in the second half from her wide position than centrally, which is where I preferred her to be at the beginning of the game when she was being pressured on the touchline and trying to dribble her way out. That could just have been the case for the second half, and I don’t want Lavelle to be played as an outside back. However, her best plays came from an “inverted winger” and not the #10 position.

    I thought Mewis was much better this game at closing down players and making tackles. Her passing was also notably better.

    Apart from the poor header that lead to the Parris chance and communicating better with Heath and Brian on White’s goal, I thought Johnston was solid, and her play on Scott late in the second half was phenomenal. Wagner talked about how Johnston’s passes weren’t as penetrative as Long’s. Yeah, I saw many of those against Germany.

    However, I do agree with Wagner that Pugh should have followed Heath and Lavelle’s examples and cut back on some of her dribbles to try and gain space and time from the English defenders. Also, on crosses, Pugh can still get better at picking out the best options. After getting past Houghton brilliantly in the first half, she should have tried to find Morgan, who had help up her run smartly and set herself up for a cutback. Considering a number of Pugh’s assists have been cutbacks, I was surprised that she didn’t pick out Morgan there.

    Not the best game from Morgan. She had a couple loose touches, and her attempted pass to Pugh in the second half was too strong and the type of pass she tries to make a little too often. However, her movement (i.e. for the Pugh breakaway talked about in the previous paragraph) was good, and she made some good plays (i.e. checked back to Lavelle and pulled Houghton out of position for Pugh’s first dribbling opportunity, great interplay with Mewis after leading a breakaway right before, and doing well to win a free kick off Bronze after receiving the ball somewhat deep in her own half). Morgan played a lot of her 15 to 20 minutes in the second half closer to midfield and the left touchline. Not sure if that was Ellis’ plan or her trying to get more involved.

    Note: That was an absolute rocket from Bronze. The US’s last two matches have been decided by great efforts off the crossbar. Brian didn’t have a great cameo today. Some poor passes, and she should have been able to clear the ball better, even with Johnston approaching the ball at speed as well. I thought Press was fine before the goal, but she showed too much confidence in trying to dribble the ball out and got robbed of it. Another similarity between the two game-winning goals.

    • DNG

      England couldn’t really push back the US flank players in the way Germany did. I think a team with fast flanks and OBs would give Lavelle trouble out wide if she had to defend by herself.

      Pugh seemed gassed to me at the end when she was outside 1v1 in space. I think that’s why she was reluctant to take on her man and just gave the ball away a couple times. She probably should have come out instead of Dunn.

      “Wagner talked about how Johnston’s passes weren’t as penetrative as Long’s. Yeah, I saw many of those against Germany.”

      I’m taking this as sarcasm. Not that I want Long to be played as a CB but she did still find more passes up the gut than Johnston. I also don’t remember Long mis-clearing a ball so send a Germany defender in on goal. Maybe Germany’s forwards are also at fault but I think the back line against Germany gave up less shots overall and less dangerous ones than the back line that played today.

      I don’t think the subs every really found their rhythm in this match and I think all the forwards(Lloyd, Morgan, Press and Williams) were all poor. I want to give Lavelle another look at the 10 since I didn’t really see enough of her there.

      On the goal at the end. It looked like Brian clears it into Johnston at first glance better communication between the two easily solves that problem.

      • Ethan

        On my point about Pugh, instead of just trying to outpace her defender, which she tried to do throughout the game, I wanted her to maybe try to dribble like Heath and disorient the English defender. That’s not going to tire her out more than trying to outrun her opposition.

        I definitely don’t remember Long finding more passes up the gut than Johnston. She passed to Sauerbrunn and Short so many times. I don’t believe there was a developed attack that started from a penetrating Long pass. I did point out that misclearance by Johnston as one of her errors, and while I thought she was better in the second half, Krieger didn’t have the greatest of games. Maybe her performance factored into you believing today’s defensive line up performed worse.

        Better communication definitely solves the problem; however, Brian’s clearance was bad because she mistimed her lunge for the ball. She lunged too early and barely made any contact with the ball. Maybe it deflected off of Johnston, but I don’t think that really made any difference.

        • #1Fan

          Pugh is not that sort of player yet.

        • DNG

          I haven’t really ever seen Pugh beat her defender with deception or even a quick cut and change of pace like Dunn.

          You might be right about Long and Johnston but I do also think Germany was better at clogging those central passing lanes than England were today. I’m not 100 percent sure if it was completely the back line that allowed more chances and England to advance so easily in the first half or if that was due to a more leaky midfield. I’d probably have to watch both again.

          You might be right on the goal I have only seen the play once.

          • Ethan

            Well, if England had more openings, I think it’d be because of the Krieger-Lavelle side being less secure. I think that’s where most of the openings came from. I thought Mewis and Horan (especially Mewis) were solid defensively.

          • Bruce

            Lavelle’s getting a lot of love, but she really didn’t help Krieger at all on the defensive end. England could have scored a few exploiting their numerical advantage on that side of the field in transition.

          • DNG

            Ellis’ fault. Lavelle is not a WB. I can’t expect her to to defend well in space when that is clearly not her strength.

          • kernel_thai

            Square pegs. Ellis doesn’t need to roster flank players because anyone can play there.

            Oh and Ohai rant. Ohai got two 45 minute halves on the right side against Romania even tho anyone who watches the league knows Ohai is most dangerous on the left. This was apparently so Press and Heath could live happily on the left. Fast forward to SBC and Heath (with Press in tow) spent half of the Germany game on the right side and Lavelle got 60 minutes on the left tonight.

          • Bruce

            No issue there.

          • Frozen Blue

            Yeah she was slow getting back, that would be my main criticism of her for this game.

          • kernel_thai

            For me it’s it’s about priorities. Is Long the best passer…yes. Was Johnston the better defender…obviously. It then comes down to what u want out of a CB. Is what u gain from Long’s passing a big enough improvement to give up stout defense right in front of ur keeper? Not for me.

          • mockmook

            Yeah, in theory the Long at CB is a good idea, but they don’t seem to be utilizing her passing enough to make it a good bargain.

          • kernel_thai

            Especially with Sullivan gone. Before she got hurt u could explain it as Ellis looking to have Sullivan and Long out there together.

          • DNG

            Just so we’re clear I’m not a supporter of Long at CB. I don’t really think the formation was ever the problem for the US. I think they needed to pair Becky with with a faster CB, replace Klingenberg with a faster younger LB(Short looks like a solid option), and remove #10 from the field. If those thinks happen the 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 would have been fine and Long would still be a midfielder and Dunn as an attacking fullback or wide forward if you wish. Then we don’t need to see silly things like Rose Lavelle playing wing back.

        • mockmook

          I don’t remember any mistakes by Krieger.

          • Ethan

            She misplayed the ball multiple times in the first half trying to get it forward and struggled to get back at times. Better in the second half though.

        • kernel_thai

          Pugh needs to cut inside and take a shot now and then so that the defenders have to be honest. It seemed to me they were looking for her to go to the byline and cut it back

          • Ethan

            Maybe she should have played more on the left in the second half. What you described is how she scored both her goals at the U20 World Cup.

      • guest

        I tracked Long’s passes from about the 22nd minute to halftime against Germany. By my count, she made 4 total forward passes, and lost two of them, compared to 10 sideways passes, of which she lost 1. Did not see the “penetrative forward passing” that justifies her being used as a center back.

        • DNG

          Did you count JJ’s for comparison?

          • guest

            Didn’t do any tracking this game, but I did track Sauerbrunn’s last game. Over the same timespan, 2 side passes and 8 forward passes, none lost. It’s possible I missed a few, and they are playing slightly different positions. Still, if the argument is that Long is an exceptional penetrative passer out of the back, I just don’t see it either from anecdotal evidence or based on data.

          • DNG

            I expect Sauerbrunn to have more Germany were leaving that pass up the wing open and cutting down the middle lanes so they could press the wings to the sidelines.

          • guest

            Sure, Becky’s right side outlet is also a forward pass to a wingback so she’s got a leg up there. But two successful passes forward from Allie Long (50% success, vast majority side to side passing) doesn’t exactly justify using her as CB. I just don’t get it. Don’t know that Johnston is the answer, but I can’t see the AL argument there.

            I do blame a reasonable amount of the difficulty of moving the ball forward though on the relatively static side-to-side shuffling of the center mids in that game though. They need to move more, either to get open themselves or open up passing lanes to the forwards.

          • mockmook

            “Sauerbrunn’s last game. Over the same timespan, 2 side passes and 8 forward passes”

            That doesn’t seem possible. Sauerbrunn and Long were passing the ball back and forth. However, I have noted that Sauerbrunn was the one who would finally hit the ball forward (in that game).

        • captainfate

          Wagner mentioned today that Long completed 74 passes out of 77 attempts. Which sounds great, but I’m pretty sure a good half of them were between herself, Sauerbrunn and Short. Of course you’d complete that many passes if Germany doesn’t bother going after them.

          • Kevin

            Yeah, I laughed at the same stat when I heard it. I bet over 60 of them were meaningless side-to-side passes to Short and Sauerbrunn.

            I don’t remember a single pass from her that started any kind of attack. Not saying she didn’t have a few, but they weren’t memorable if there were any.

          • mockmook

            “I don’t remember a single pass from her that started any kind of attack.”

            It isn’t her job to start an attack — her job is to get the ball moving upfield (then it is the mids/fwds jobs to get the attack going).

          • Kevin

            Yes, of course. But I don’t remember her passes ever going forward for the start of the start of an attack. Every pass was sideways or a forward pass to a midfielder that passed it right back to her.

            I’d like to know how many of Long’s passes, not to Short or Brunn were passed back to her or one of the other defenders… just about all of them I bet. It looked like we had 2 Sauerbrunn’s out there.

          • kernel_thai

            Germany has been using this plan since WWII. Deny the pass up the middle, allow u to have the sideline and try and trap u there. I believe they too Poland that way.

      • kernel_thai

        Part of the problem of switching the formation every camp and running a bunch of players on the field is u don’t have that practiced familiarity.

    • chive-on

      Agreed on many of your points. Lavelle is outstanding, I’ve never seen her play until this point, and it wasn’t like it was against an easy team either. Definitely held her own. I also hope Ellis doesn’t try her as an outside back, what a waste that would be. Sometimes I feel like Ellis thinks we don’t have enough defenders and tries midfielders in defense; we have plenty of good defenders.
      Mewis is also much better than I remember her being. I was pretty meh on her at first in her first few appearances, but she’s definitely improved. Glad that they finally have someone else other than Lloyd taking free kicks, was getting sick of Lloyd sending them over the bar into low earth orbit, and someone else needs to be trained on them as backup anyway.
      England is a better team than Germany anyway, has been since the world cup. Still, with Pugh back, Lloyd, Morgan and Dunn, I expected someone would find a goal tonight. Disappointed. Scoring should come against France.

    • kernel_thai

      Surprised Johnston hasnt been more of a topic…Ive seen her criticized in some other places. All things considered I thought she had a great match. She’s basically had the formation shifted out from in under her and been replaced by someone who isn’t even a defender. That has to make u think. Yes she mistimed her jump on that header and she still will clear it long when in doubt but other than that I thought it was the top performance we’ve out of the 3back experiment. And as to her safety first mentality, if Press would have just cleared the ball we’d be talking about a draw.

      Unfortunately I can’t gush about Lavelle. Yes she is uber technical, played hard and certainly deserved a start. People just seem very willing to talk up the positives and forget the negatives. Yes she had some really nice take aways on defense but they didn’t nearly cancel out her errant passes or being stripped herself. Yes she was very creative but what did she create. She didn’t set up anyone else which is what I was expecting to see. As mentioned her best pass was a cutback that everyone gave up on. And while it was certainly a good first cap Im not ready to ordain her. To me she was sort of a combination of Rapinoe and Heath before her epiphany. I wish she had gotten more time in Lloyds spot but I don’t really see her as a good wide option because pinning her against the sideline takes away a lot of her options.

      • Ethan

        Yeah, agreed on Johnston.

        I was pretty surprised that Press made the choice to try and beat the English player there. I can only think that she really wanted to keep possession and get forward for another chance.

        I am part of the “gush about Lavelle” crowd, but you’re right that there were negatives in her performance. Still, I just loved how comfortable and composed she was on the ball. (i.e. Early in the second half, she sent an English player in the wrong direction by cooling dragging the ball in the opposite direction, and that opened up the space for her to pass inside.) It is true that Lavelle didn’t directly set anyone up, but she had a number of almost secondary assists. It would have indeed been cool to see her try to send a teammate in on goal. Pinning her against the sideline definitely isn’t good, but she seemed well-suited to the kind of attacking wide play she showed in the second half where she was more pinched in. However, that kind of play was characteristic of an inside forward in a 3-4-3 formation and less characteristic of a wingback, and Lavelle wouldn’t be high up the pecking order for left/right inside forward.

        • kernel_thai

          This is why Ellis didn’t bring in more flank players which Ive been beating the drum about since the roster came out. Lavelle is left footed so she can play the flank. Ugh. The way England chose to defend the US needed players who were a threat to score at the wingback position. That would have forced England to defend a wider field. Instead Lavelle had open space to dribble the field but didn’t have the tools of an experienced flanker to exploit the situation. Ellis simply got out coached again.

  • Frozen Blue

    Mewis was the standout in this game for me. This is the Mewis I have been expecting to step up for the last year or so. Now she needs to do this under the kind of pressing defense Germany was playing on Wednesday.

    So exciting to see Lavelle was really surprised to see her on the outside but definitely made the most out of it, yes she had mistakes and I sigh every time I think of the nice pass from Dunn to her on the top of the box, open, and she flubbed it…nerves. She’s got moves and confidence and good instincts.

    Dunn was great on the right and bossed her defender, nice crosses into the box, that should have resulted in at least 1 goal. If the goal of the game was to win, removing her was a mistake.

    Morgan looked off and Pugh wasn’t impressive up front, she wasn’t bad and made a couple good plays but nothing that made me think she belongs in a 2 front.

    I don’t know what to think of the back 3, just a mixed bag to me.

    • dw

      I came in to say the the best US player over the 1st 2 games is Sam Mewis. Something I never imagined I would ever say.

    • Cc W

      Mewis has been willing to get in there and try to make plays, while several other MF seem to be waiting for the game to come to them. She’s much improved to my eye.

  • Lorehead

    Disappointing to see the US get outplayed, but at least it happened while Jill Ellis was trying out some new players and experimenting. I always heard good things about Rose Lavelle here, but I rarely have had the chance to see her play, and she lived up to the hype. And I always enjoy seeing Jodie Taylor again.

    • DNG

      I didn’t actually think that they were outplayed. The game was mostly even to me and I might even give the US the edge.

      • Lorehead

        The US had shots on goal, but were any of them dangerous? It is true that England’s goal came off a lucky bounce.

        • DNG

          I think they did a good job of creating danger certainly much better than last year. The final ball was off though so some of those chances did not result in shots. I didn’t think England had a ton of great chances either other than the mis-clear off Johnston’s head that fell to Parris.

        • DNG

          I felt like there were a lot of last ditch clearances in the England box that, on a different day, one would have fallen to a US player.

          • Frozen Blue

            No one seemed “hungry” to score tonight, I couldn’t believe everyone was standing around on that play were Lavelle chased down that ball on the end line and got a nice cross into the box.

          • DNG

            Yeah that was bad. I forget who the offenders were on that play. Williams and Press maybe.

          • Frozen Blue

            Yes Williams and Lloyd are sitting near post on top of the 6 and Press back post at the 18.

          • TsovLoj

            Unbelievable! They all just checked out!

          • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

            Last ditch clearances are basically England’s game. Bronze + Houghton = Bill Russell; unfortunately, Nobbs and Jill Scott are the only threats in midfield transition.

          • DNG

            I don’t watch them as much as you probably do but that’s a dangerous game to play. I actually thought they defended the US much better in this match last year and were able to stop the US further up the field most of the time.

          • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

            I maybe a bit to harsh on England, but they definitely play that way against the Big 3. When they seem to at level or slightly better than their opposition (Japan, Netherlands, Norway) they generate enough plum chances.

          • guest

            Alex Greenwood was excellent at LB last year for England.

        • Ethan

          Lavelle’s certainly was, and Pugh should have been able to pick out Morgan on her dribble after burning Houghton.

      • Nat

        I agree, England did not out played USA, They did play and pressure our back line better than Germany. I liked And was very pleasantly surprised with swet baby Rose 🌹, other than that the 3 Player back line is not working out, we’re getting outplayed on the counter. Harris had a great game and was unfortunate to not get a blank sheet.

    • HOFCToDi
      • Lorehead

        Thank you for the stats! I think that matches my perception that the game was very close and one different bounce would have made it a draw, but England created better chances.

        • HOFCToDi

          Your perception of the match and my perception of the match are totally different. We can agree to disagree.

        • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

          England did not create better chances, all their shots on target were byproducts of unideal to poor clearances by the US.

          • Lorehead

            I don’t see how that is an argument that the US played as well as England?

          • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

            You are not playing that well if you are completely dependent on the oppositions mistakes. And the last two were rather bang-bang.

          • Lorehead

            Right, but the team making more mistakes is not playing better, is it? Defense is part of the game of football!

          • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

            The US didn’t make more mistakes as much two of them were very critical. If the boxing match, the US had thrown and landed more punches than England, had better ring command and were winning the scorecard. However, Lucy Bronze provided that perfect, strong punch through the US defense and Ellen White got the KO blow.

            A big win for England, but it doesn’t look to good going forward where they’ll have to play the Euros against a focused and settled France, Germany, and Norway (and be on the lookout for Spain).

          • #1Fan

            The US still look like a team waiting for a big play from someone. Better today, but they need to realize that they are not going to score vs better teams unless the forwards play better and have more creativity.

          • DNG

            I think they can get away with creativity coming from other areas such as attacking mid coupled with a poacher but I think we agree in general on the forwards tonight. Not enough from any of them

          • #1Fan

            my “more creativity” moment does not proclude Where it comes form πŸ™‚ Lloyd does not offer that. If she does not score in a game ……..

          • DNG

            I don’t think Lloyd offers any creativity when she does score. It’s always either a poachers goal or a long shot. She’s yet to come close to playing like a true 10.

          • #1Fan

            well thats the point. Without a goal, what else does she offer ?

          • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

            A “once in a blue moon” well-weighted pass.

          • Guest

            Not from our current attacking mid. Way over ripe.
            Brian, Horan, and now we know Lavelle would be better choices as a #10
            That said I like Horan as a hold up forward and press to play off her and stretch the game.
            Lavelle 10 (and not from last night I have been watching her since 2014) and Brian 8 and mewis 6. Heath and Pugh on the flanks although I am not that sold on Pugh yet. Would like to see Ohai get a real look. Pugh Too one dimensional. I still will get flamed because I like Dunn in the back. Still don’t think they have found their other best outside back. Need a kling on steroids to make it to 5’5″ and a little speed. Probably a kid out there now going unnoticed. CB still open I’m my opinion. Maybe see how Sonnet can do.

            They have the players who can play quality sophisticated soccer. Let’s let them see what they can do against France.

          • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

            You mean “physical”. It ain’t the so called “better” teams like France, Japan and Netherlands that bother them. It is the ones that can muscle up like Germany, Norway, Canada, Australia, Switzerland, Denmark, of course England.

          • DNG

            Germany hasn’t really given them any trouble. Not really sure I think the others have either other than England and Australia. I’d add Sweden to you list though.

          • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

            Shoot, I forgot Sweden. They barely beat (or tied) Norway in the Algrave Cup in 2015. Denmark got (more like validated) Sermanni fired. Switzerland at least has that capacity.

          • Steglitz49

            Both Denmark and Norway have Sweden’s number now. Sweden has been further weakened by the injury to Sofia Jakobsson.

            Unless they can find some magic, Sweden will struggle in Euro-17. They are lucky in being in the same group as Germany, so can’t meet them again till the final. The other two are Italy and Russia, so Sweden can not be not sure to go through to the knock-out stage.

          • #1Fan

            Those are amongst the better teams though. Japan and France both give them problems

          • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

            A specific subset of better teams

          • Steglitz49

            Sweden.

          • Steglitz49

            Sweden. You forget Sweden. The Glorious 12th with its Bomb in Brasilia is not so long ago.

          • Steglitz49

            England’s group has Scotland, Spain and Portugal. In Euro-13, Spain beat England but the Lionesses ought to beat Portugal and probably Scotland too.

          • DNG

            I think I’d feel differently if I thought that England was directly causing a lot of the mistakes like they did a year ago. Not sure they did that today.

      • Lorehead

        Although the US did hold a bigger edge in possession than I would have guessed, and most other people here don’t agree England had the edge. So maybe I’m letting the final score influence my take more than it should, or maybe the underdog looked better to me by beating my expectations.

      • dw

        When you use the historical series data, I am sure you will see that ENG outperformed vs. previous matches and US underperformed.

        US has been dominant for so long, that when teams just play them level, it gives the appearance of “outplaying”.

  • guest

    Lucy Bronze is a phenomenal player. Great game.

    • guester

      she is my lady crush

  • lol

    Is Rick back on long island crying because he went to a game and his Pressious Princess didn’t score? Or do much of anything.

    • Lorehead

      What is with the Rick-bashing? So he has a favorite player. He stopped gushing over her years ago.

      • Frozen Blue

        No Rick bashing for me but that has been 2 games in a row with an unproductive Lloyd, shouldn’t this be enough for the coaching staff to justify starting someone else vs France. I can’t believe even Lloyd could argue she has played well.

        • HOFCToDi

          The replacement for Lloyd is Lavelle not Press.

          • guest

            Absolutely agreed, for once. Lloyd is definitely a good poacher, but she’s a black hole during build up play among a creative and like-minded players. Lavelle would be a great choice for her spot.

          • HOFCToDi

            Father Time is undefeated.

          • Cc W

            It kinda feels like JE is setting Carli up to fail with the new formation. If Carli isn’t successful – and it isn’t going well – she can put in other players, and if there is success, out goes Carli. Seems like it’s closer than I thought.

          • Frozen Blue

            I hope so I just wonder how long the noose is, does she get to start against France? When is she cut off or are we giving Ellis more credit than she deserves? All that said I did kind of feel like tonight was JJ and ‘Kriegers final chance to sink or swim.

          • Cc W

            Jill is probably trying to give her some credit since she did help Jill keep the job with her WC performance. But if there are a few more losses I think we’ll see some changes. I think Carli knows she’s not making the next WC and it’s affecting her play as well. Kriegs probably knows she’s being phased out too which is why she’s saying how much she loves the new 3 back formation. My guess – the over 30 group will be all gone by the end of the year.

          • Steglitz49

            I suspect that she is phasing out a few more. Christen seems to be digging her own tomb. Unless she comes up big against France, that may be her last gasp.

          • Cc W

            I didn’t get the sub of her today – some players thrive as subs – like Shannon MacMillan – and then CP who doesn’t ever seem to make a difference as a sub against a good team. But I appreciate JE making the players earn their spots. It’s the only way you get the best out of the best.

          • guest

            oh come on. I appreciate Morgan’s contributions to women’s soccer but Press is just in better form right now. She was the best player against Germany and she’s going to start against France.

          • Steglitz49

            JE should not have brought Alex from France. She should have left her in Lyon to recuperate.

      • HOFCToDi

        Seriously?

        equalizersoccer.com/2017/03/01/williams-wins-the-day-for-the-u-s/#comment-3185582472

        You missed yesterday’s posts. Delusions of grandeur.

      • Ethan

        I don’t like the original comment, but he stopped gushing years ago? Maybe more like 6 months to a year.

        • mockmook

          More like never.

          He still advocates for her being a top forward (so it’s gushing by advocation).

          • Ethan

            I don’t really think of that as gushing. I’m being fair to Rick and saying 6 months to 1 year (or however long it’s been since the ESPN Body Issue); plus, he didn’t really post at all for a while before the first SheBelieves match. However, years ago is just simply inaccurate.

        • HOFCToDi

          The unfounded swagger returned yesterday.

        • Steglitz49

          Since the Glorious 12th — though the other day he had back-slid.

      • kernel_thai

        Personally Im concerned he is at an Emergency Room with frost bite.

    • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

      It wasn’t like Morgan played much better. It seemed that England had a steadier (still unproductive) hand when Jill Scott came into the game. She indirectly further neutralized forward play.

      • guest

        No Morgan didn’t play much better. I think constant injuries have gotten the better of her. It’s a shame she never recovered her old form. I would have liked to see a young forward like Savannah Jordan called up to this tournament.. or even a Sanchez.. rather than Jess Mcdonald who has no real future with this team.

      • DNG

        Not just Morgan and Press but Lloyd and Williams as well. None of the forwards played well and you can probably add Pugh to that mix too.

        • kernel_thai

          Because they didn’t get decent service.

      • getoverit

        Morgan was fine. She didn’t get the ball as much near the goal but go ahead and fangirl press at least she had a hand in a goal…for england.

      • Cc W

        Jill Scott is an underrated player and often makes a difference for ENG.

      • Ethan

        Maybe so, but I kind of loved seeing Lavelle and Johnston both rob Scott of the ball in quick succession.

    • HOFCToDi

      Except turnover the ball that led to the second corner kick for England.

      • guest

        She’s not a good sub in a pressure situation. You need to play her as a starter. She’s a player who needs at least 60 minutes in a game.

    • HOFCToDi

      I thought the USSF placed a restraining order on NYRick?

  • guest

    Hope solo, somewhere in north carolina, biting her nails and rocking back and forth, repeating ” I WOULD HAVE MADE THAT SAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    • ARED

      Probably true. But just like in 2007, she might be right…. ; )

  • mskillens

    Does anyone know if Hope Solo is allowed to come back? I don’t like Ashlyn Harris anymore.

    • guest

      Naeher is just as good as present day Solo . Also Harris did some good in this game.

      • Frozen Blue

        Harris was fine today but she always makes me jittery, she is not quite as solid as Naeher. I really thought she was going to get beat on that free kick that bounced.

        • captainfate

          I feel like Harris’ style is more on the ‘risky’ style that relies on individual capability. It sometimes means she ends up stepping up to things she should leave for her defender to pick up. I think she sometimes expects her defenders to read her mind, while her defenders expect her to communicate with them more on what she wants to do/wants them to do, and it ends up with a lot of miscommunication (or no communication at all). Maybe it was the way the stadium was mic’d up, and the crowds were larger in this match so could have drowned Harris out, but Naeher seemed more vocal in the match vs Germany with her back line (and the defensive midfielders) than Harris did this match.

          Harris is a good goalkeeper, no doubt, but like you, I’m usually more worried when Harris is between the posts compared to when Barnie or Naeher are there.

          • Awful

            Her hair style has to go.

          • JL

            This isn’t a beauty contest. Who cares what her hair looks like? Judge players for what they do on the field, not their hair.

    • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

      Ashlyn Harris played fine. Lucy Bronze is always going to Lucy Bronze.

      • TsovLoj

        Harris was unimpressive (that punch away could have been held by Naeher or Solo, and her distribution was LeBlanc bad), but she couldn’t have stopped that goal.

        • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

          Now that I think about, her distribution was eye-roll inducing.

          • captainfate

            There were a few times where she opted to kick the ball when it would have been a better idea to pick it up (which led to… a turnover, because she kicked it back to England’s midfielder), or when Johnston was already on the ball and poised to make a short pass (but Harris decided to sprint up and boot it, suddenly clogging up space. If the ball had deflected off someone, there was a lot of space to Harris’ left that England could capitalize on).

            She’s definitely a ‘riskier’ keeper. Her saves, when she makes them, look good and solid and show good reflexes. When she doesn’t make the save, though, it looks like a rookie error.

          • Cc W

            I sometimes wonder if her “great” saves would have been just regular saves if she were in better position or had her defenders in position. Like Hope or not – she ruled her back line and had them in position all the time. Naeher or Harris might get there with more caps, but I’d rather see Naeher back there then Harris right now.

          • Steglitz49

            I would rather they went out and got some modern sized goalies.

            China has kept faith with their 6’2″ lass and she saved their bacon against Sweden where a 5’9″ goalie would not have.

          • Cc W

            I agree with that – Haley Kopmeyer is 5’11’ and while she needs to improve, I wish she’d at least get a look at a camp.

          • Steglitz49

            Thank you. Not many do agree.

          • captainfate

            I agree with you there. I’m also of the opinion that Harris makes flashy saves *because* she puts herself in the position to have to pull something like that off (ie. poor positioning or communication). Hope has superior positioning (both of her defence and of her own self) *and* had fantastic physical attributes as well (agility, reflexes, and could make spectacular jump saves/dives herself).

            I was definitely happy to see Naeher in the #1 jersey, even if Ellis insists that the #1 position is still a race between Naeher and Harris.

            We beat France last year by virtue of Solo’s goalkeeping (remember when Carli almost scored an own goal?). It would be interesting to see how the USWNT fare against France again, this year.

          • Cc W

            I had forgotten about the almost own goal – I have a feeling that France will beat the US this time. And maybe that’s not a bad thing,

    • Cc W

      Hope is still recovering from shoulder replacement surgery. She had an interview that she was probably still 9-12 months away from being fully recovered. Personally, I don’t see any chance that she’ll play another game in the crest. Suspended or fired – she got them the 3rd star, but she wasn’t ever going to be the keep for 2019. Naeher will likely get the gig and she’s fine – we’ll have to see if she can be phenomenal.

  • Guest

    Tobin got 10 minutes in her home state?

    • Frozen Blue

      I just thought she was being rested for France and she is a known quantity during a time Ellis is trying to evaluate.

      • Arcie Tillydee

        Agreed. Even with the loss, the US has a good shot at the tournament win (could come down to GD), and Tobin is likely to be called on for 90 minutes.

        • Steglitz49

          The US has to beat France while it is enough for France to tie with the US unless either Germany or England pile in the goals.

    • Vinny

      I hear you. Lame af

  • guest

    So is chamberlain better than Bardsley? What is the consensus there. Bardsley is always bashed for inconsistency

  • dw

    England looked so much more threatening than Germany.

    Does anyone know why Sampson dropped Aluko?

    • guest

      Germany looked much better against France. Both had awful finishing. I think we have a good chance against France if they play like they did today and Jill starts the right personnel

    • #1Fan

      Aluko is one dimensional. I thought Eng were very good on the ball and patient in building. Good movement.

      • DNG

        The game was pretty open if the first half with both teams advancing the ball pretty easily. I thought England tapered off a bit in the second half though.

        • #1Fan

          I agree. Travel and 2 games in short time will do that

          • DNG

            Yeah. And I know that financially it makes sense for the US to host these mini tournaments right now but hopefully someone else will do it in the future so the US can be tested in short rest away settings.

          • Steglitz49

            It is too cold in Europe except in the Algarve — and there it has been unseasonable weather this year.

        • #1Fan

          DNG I got 3/4 of the incoming player right πŸ™‚ I expected Press to start. I was wrong .

          • DNG

            I’m a little surprised Press didn’t start. I haven’t seen Pugh used up top much by Ellis and figured Horan would be in midfield today.

          • getoverit

            I’m glad she didn’t since her giveaway caused the corner the goal was scored on.

          • Steglitz49

            I expect that JE is starting to ease Press out. You can’t keep making basic errors and stay on the USWNT unless you have the reputation and scars of valor to fall back on.

          • guest

            and jill ellis was wrong. the uswnt lost.

          • kernel_thai

            If they started Press and Morgan up top, pushed Pugh back and given Dunn the night off I think there would have been more combination play up top. The other option was swap Pugh and Dunn. Dunn would have been another scoring threat in the box to keep the defense honest.

      • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

        Toni Duggan is one dimensional. Outside of the occasional beauty just outside the box, she does provide anything that extraordinary. Aluko can atleast dribble and provide every once in awhile.

        • #1Fan

          Fair. Top class strikers are rare

        • guest

          She’s pretty cute though. That scouse accent does it for me.

    • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

      Aluko is an inefficient finisher in general and she doesn’t seem to finish at all for the national team.

    • Ashley C

      England certainly gave the US more of a game than Germany. Ended up being a game that would have tested Long at CB more than Germany.

      • kernel_thai

        Im sure she’ll be back there for France and then u’ll get ur test. France may not score but if they get numerous chances up the middle it will be telling.

  • Ashley C

    -Thought Lavelle and Mewis were the best players for the US tonight. Wouldn’t have known it was Lavelle’s first cap.

    -idk why Ellis is still wondering who is better at CB

    -I don’t think Harris played bad. I thought she was tested more than Naeher vs Germany or at least that’s what it felt like watching. She had a few big saves and I thought the defense was sloppy on that goal

    -Not much at all from Morgan tonight or Lloyd. Could be the illness + knock + traveling. She didn’t make many runs and both struggled to get into the game.

    • #1Fan

      I agree on a lot of this. The first cap thing I just dont. These are women who have been playing the game a long long time at a high level. Yes the NT is big, but I would not expect the moment to get to most of them. I was not surprised she did well.

      • Ashley C

        I don’t disagree – but I just mean some players look very nervous and
        jittery in their first call up. I thought she was quite composed and smart with the ball for the most part. She didn’t try to do too much to prove anything to Ellis and made good decisions on and off the ball.

        • #1Fan

          agreed. I was impressed with her play. Not a flank player though. Could dictate tempo much better centrally

          • DNG

            I was a little worried about Lavelle essentially playing wing back at first when, I think, Bronze dribbled right past her at the opening whistle. She held her own out there though. Maybe she can play wide AM in a 4 back formation but I also think she’d be better centrally.

          • #1Fan

            in the formation you mention, she would probably be pretty narrow anyways.

          • Arcie Tillydee

            I think it was pretty clear where Lavelle is best used. She was good on the flank, especially after a handful of early-minute first cap nerves. But as good as she was out there, when substitutions moved her to a more central role, you really started to see how dangerous she can be.

          • Ethan

            I guess I wasn’t paying that much attention because I thought she was far better in this match on the flank than when she moved centrally.

          • ARED

            After they changed, they had some good play and you knew Lavelle would be dangerous if she received the ball, but England is a good opponent and was able to change the rhythm of the game to stop the USA momentum in those late stages. I think in 90 minutes that lineup would have found a lot of chances, but in only 15, it was difficult.

          • ARED

            I was thinking “classic Jill Ellis” when I saw the lineup.

            Here Ms. Lavelle, you can finally have your first cap -I’ll start you out wide against Bronze and Nobbs. Lavelle suffered a lot, but was willing to throughout the 90 and actually was the most energetic player still at the end. I think she won the battle on the side of the field, despite England having quality there against her. The USA right could not move the ball forward (and they never can in the middle). So that left Lavelle, and I thought she was far better than Ellis could have asked. When Dunn switched to that side, England found more joy and I while I was not surprised by Lavelle’s game with the ball, I was impressed that she covered space and read the game better than most (all?) players in such a tough matchup. After that first moment of losing Bronze (but she caught her after), she was above the other USA players mentally I thought, which is a bit of a worry actually…..

    • HOFCToDi

      I agree on Lavelle and Mewis.

      Better centerback, definitely not Krieger.

      Harris distribution stinks.

      None of the substitutes made an impact either.

      • Ashley C

        I’ve always felt Naeher should be # 1 but I thought Harris did fine tonight. Harris’ distribution has always been a weakness. She kicks the ball out often too. I think whoever the back 3 winds up being needs to be better at distribution and playing under pressure while we’re at it.

        • HOFCToDi

          I thought Krieger was awful and Horan not much better. Furthermore, I hope that is the last time Horan plays in the midfield especially as a defensive/holding midfielder.

          • Ashley C

            Midfield continues to be a concern for me paired with the distribution concerns I have defensively – but I thought Horan/Mewis looked better than Brian being in there. I’ve never been a Long fan so I can’t say much about her.

          • HOFCToDi

            As previously mentioned, none of the substitutes made an impact.

          • ARED

            I think we must credit England for this as well. They are not the naive opponent the USA is used to playing.

          • HOFCToDi

            Which is why I completely disregard individual performances against tomato cans.

          • ARED

            I don’t *completely* disregard it, but I do not draw any big conclusions from it. If you mean statistics, then yeah, throw those out. But you can always learn from watching players, I believe.

          • HOFCToDi

            It’s meaningless.
            You enjoy watching the big bully on the block beating up on little kids?

          • ARED

            Well, for as much as we have to trust that Jill Ellis is learning from watching training, I think it’s nice to see the matches even if they are essentially training matches. It allows the team to play as a team, not as competitors, and also *should* allow for a comfortable first step into the international level for new players -if the USA would ever use those easy matches to do so.

            Also, you can see how players prefer to play, how willing they are to help a teammate, who always knows what to do and who is more prone to mental lapses or selfish play.

          • HOFCToDi

            I derive no joy from watching the USWNT beat up on Romania and Thailand. Meanwhile, Switzerland was missing five outfield starters from the 2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup in the first match between the two sides of the 2016 Pity Tour.

          • ARED

            I am not saying joy, I am saying you can learn from it.

            It is good that you focus on what you enjoy -and I certainly do not mark my calendar for lopsided WoSo matches, but if I choose to watch one I know I can still learn from what I see with or without joy. And let’s not forget there are two teams on the pitch as well, and we can learn about each side, and some of us may even take our joy from how the “little kids” show themselves. ; p

          • Steglitz49

            Moe Brian has won one World Championship already so she can hang up her boots when she feels like, the time is ripe.

          • ARED

            Well, I agree except for Long. The USA was pretty good last year (2016) and it was mostly because Long was finally filling the midfield together, controlling the game and giving the ball to both the wide players (Heath, Pugh, Dunn) and the forwards (Morgan, Lloyd, Press) in positive positions, instead of the normal way under Ellis, where Heath for example always has to come deep to recieve the ball and fight just to get into the attacking third.

            Everyone talked about how much better Heath suddenly became, and how great Pugh was, but not many saw the connection to Long -who was actually what changed. I would never really want to rely on the backline to distribute, and Long in the midfield improved that problem as well. Removing Lloyd would be the final step, I believe.

          • TsovLoj

            We have this weird thing going on where we treat the midfielder position as a place to put forwards who aren’t good enough to start at forward.

          • HOFCToDi

            Look at the positive. Barring any setbacks, Andi Sullivan should be ready for the 2018 SheBelieves Cup. Three players vying for two defensive/holding midfield positions:

            Brian, Morgan
            Mewis, Samantha
            Sullivan, Andi

            Add Lavelle as the “1” in the 3-4-1-2 tactical formation.

          • ARED

            Or, God forbid, they could change to a better system! ; )

          • Steglitz49

            Probably because growing up all girls play at forward. Pia converted KO into an LB but her NWSL club still uses KO as a forward at least most of the time.

            You can chose to bypass the midfield but then you must score a lot of goals and your defense be rock solid.

          • guest

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    • Ethan

      Well, a number of times, Morgan made a forward run, and the player on the ball didn’t even consider playing it to her. So that could have led her to asking for the ball to her feet more, but she still didn’t receive the ball that much. In her minutes in the second half, Morgan was deeper on average than I’ve seen from her in a while.

      • kernel_thai

        Morgan has tried coming back thinking she can pass it and get it back like they would at Lyon. Instead, she makes the pass and by the time she gets to the box the ball is either been shot or turned over. I would have liked to have seen a longer version of her paired with Horan up top because Horan will give it back.

        • ARED

          They have many players who can play attacking role who can and will give it back. But, these players all play wingback or holding midfield roles, or even on the defensive line, while Carli Lloyd plays CAM. Dunn is not much for patience or vision in attack either. Those two make buildup play difficult on those rare moments they get the ball out from their own back line to begin with.

          • Frozen Blue

            Dunn had the most productive crosses into the box all night, don’t blame her that the forwards couldn’t do anything with them.

          • #1Fan

            Dunn was v good 1 vs 1 wide. Decisive and better delivery than I have seen from her in the past. I was impressed

        • #1Fan

          πŸ™‚ Morgan aint playing at Lyon πŸ™‚

          • kernel_thai

            Well at practice then : ) It’s patience that the US lacks. Ellis has them believing that they can only score by turning the other team over and catching them out of shape. The next coach needs to teach them they need to be able to create chances not hope for them.

    • TsovLoj

      I haven’t traditionally been into Mewis, but she definitely shined tonight.

    • guest2

      Well she wasn’t given the ball all that much but not surprised with your criticism of Morgan. Carry on as always.

  • another Guest

    Lavelle was the star for me. Sure she made mistakes but she was much more aggressive than I thought she would be. She needs to play and get comfortable in Lloyd’s spot. Bye Carli… you are a legend, but it’s time to move on with your life.

    • #1Fan

      i thought many on here and reserved that spot for Pugh πŸ˜‰ Pugh showed me again that

      1. She is a wide player at the present time
      2. Not suited by 3 Back.
      3. No guarantee that in a must win game she would play.

      • DNG

        She’s really still a player to me that should to the utmost for focus on developing her skills. She has so much potential but still relies too much on her speed to beat defenders. And I think she ran out of gas today.

        • #1Fan

          So who is doing that do you think ?

          • DNG

            Good point. Pugh would probably only be able to get that support if she went to play abroad.

          • #1Fan

            Here is the truth. If she goes to UCLA, she will be gushed on as the greatest College player ever. ( Joke, but not really. Every kid she beats for pace, we will be told its the second coming) She will continually be called in to NT Camps and I dont see where that leads her other than continuing down the same path.

            If she were to commit to being the best player she could be, I do agree that abroad would be a good idea

            However, that is her call really.

          • kernel_thai

            As Ive said before Pugh needs to get off this team pronto. Besides the fact that I wouldn’t trust Ellis to develop a polaroid, Pugh will never become the star she can be until she puts a team on her back and leads them to something. Maybe it happens at UCLA or the 20s but all she is doing on the NT is bending the knee. She was alone in the box tonight and was desperately looking to pass it. That might be fine for a role player but u want the future Chosen One to try and bury it.

      • ARED

        I think #2 may cancel out the other two points a little bit, but all certainly would be true based only on today. I thought it was a tough match for Pugh, but still thought she was one of the few players who could create something, despite (what I believe is) a bad formation handicapping her and the team, and the bad conditions.

        Lavelle, Mewis, and then for brief moments Morgan and Pugh, were the only USA players I thought could bother England.

        Maybe if Allie Long had been at CB she could have “set play” to create some chances (sarcasm -I think the whole formation is rubbish, especially having so much focus on the defenders controlling the ball while ignoring the broken midfield).

        • Steglitz49

          The English media praised Rose Lavelle. They did not mention the others by name, except Harris in goal.

        • Frozen Blue

          Dunn was the only other player than Mewis and Lavelle who created great chances. Pugh was ok up top and ineffective on the wing.

          • ARED

            Well, I think Dunn had one or two very dangerous moments, but I think those chances were created by others putting her into those positions.

            Unfortunately on this team, the midfield has been so bad that the biggest key plays, for me, are those that take the team from a cautious possession phase into an attacking phase, and they do not find this to come easily or often. Dunn is great once in the attacking phase, but the players I mentioned are the ones I felt were creating those attacking chances in the first place (even if they were inconsistent and made plenty of bad balls also).

      • Frozen Blue

        I don’t know what justifies her to play forward this game over several other proven forwards, I’m all for experimentation but Pugh has never showed she would make a good forward yet 3 proven forwards were sitting on the bench.

    • SpiritFan00

      Same. Creative, multi-dimensional player. A few nervy touches early, but then she was really driving a lot of the interesting things and possession. Was also a fan of the Mewis/Horan middle. In person, Mewis is surprisingly mobile and disruptive on the dribble. Horan’s ability to win balls in the middle by using her body is also impressive. Both made quick decisions with the ball and were disruptive defensively.

      • DNG

        Horan is a forward who can hold up play effectively and score goals. If I keep saying it maybe someone will hear me.

        • mockmook

          She is a great distributor from the midfield, but looks like a catastrophe waiting to happen defensively — lack of speed/quickness.

          • DNG

            I agree about her defensively. She needs someone behind her as cover too because she does occasionally take too long on the ball and loses it.

        • #1Fan

          I agree. Another good player making the best of a position she is not really suited to

          • DNG

            She got to play as a 10 in the second half of Portland’s season last year. I want to see how she develops there this year. She still spent too much time outside the box for my liking at the 10.

        • guest

          How is her finishing these days though? She hasn’t played forward since PSG…

    • dw

      A joke perpetuated by the WoSo voters (primarily the USA based voters, thanks) to give Lloyd PotY, leads to another year of inability to move out of the “Carli Ball” era. Just like Abby, now we are backing up players at the #10, and forcing them to play out of position, if they get to play at all. Don’t forget that Long is also best suited to play the 10, and I would not have Lavelle leapfrog her on the basis of a single cap.

  • annie

    It’s hard not to like the Lionesses. There is a lot of heart and grit on that team, and I couldn’t help but be happy for them when they scored that late goal.

    • guest

      Imagine if they had a unified UK team with Little and Fishlock on the roster…

      • Steglitz49

        In OG-12 they did but did not do very well. Mind you, Jess was not in it.

        • Ethan

          Well, any team would welcome an elite box-to-box midfielder. They did indeed not advance far in OG-12, but I remember they performed very well in the group stages and controlled most of the play against Canada. However, I think there was some controversy about a refereeing decision in the match against Canada, and Canada were more clinical at finishing.

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    • dw

      They are a plucky bunch.

    • xanthophobe

      Completely agree. They’re a very endearing team. I would love to see them take the Euro this year (and hopefully bring more attention to their domestic league)

  • Jw

    What no mention that Christen Press’ mistake that led almost directly to this loss? I’m shocked..not.. considering this site and woso media bias.

    • guest

      don’t forget to include tobin heath and allie long turning their backs and away from bronze’s shot. no attempt to block the shot even with their foot. they should be getting more o the blame than press.

      • Ethan

        More of the blame? Heath’s header wasn’t great, but that’s a tough sell. Most players don’t try and beat someone in that situation.

        • ARED

          I think it’s all of the above, and Press looked for a pass but there was none. Perhaps we can credit England for 3 great plays in this goal as well?

          If you want blame, as often is the case, I think it is trivial to look beyond Ellis. In a 0-0 in a frozen 90th minute, you can lose a ball, and a good team can punish you for it. But I do not think the USA should have been happy to be 0-0 in the 90th minute….

          • Steglitz49

            England is a tough nut. Sweden replaced them in OG-16: remeber the Glorious 12th?

          • ARED

            You have to explain what this means, I am sorry! (The Glorious 12th).

          • Steglitz49

            The start of the Grouse Shooting season in Scotland is traditionally on August 12th. The day is therefore known in the UK as “the Glorious 12th”.

            The US bombed in Brasilia on August 12th, the game known in Swedish as the Miracle on Grass.

          • ARED

            Oh wow, I never knew there was so much I never knew….

          • #1Fan

            Its a friendly. Must be looked at that way. In a result game, those subs are not made and those are not the starting lineups. Look at performances, areas of improvement. You want to win, but you have to use these games to learn. The win did mean a lot to Eng, because they dont beat the US, but its a friendly

            I liked a lot of what I saw from both teams and IF Ellis uses this to refine her game plan then I’m all for it. Lavelle definitely earned a chance to play centrally.

          • ARED

            I think of course the team can and should take things and learn, I guess my point is that as you say it’s a glorified friendly and I don’t think we need to overreact in our searches for a new witch to burn.

            I agree for England it was a great result, and it was quite an enjoyable match to watch, which honestly is not always the case as far as pure entertainment value. Plenty of hard battles and shows of skill on display all around over the match. 3-4 nutmegs as well, most involving Lavelle…lol.

  • Miami66

    Was at the (igloo) stadium. England are very impressive. I feel like its on them to dethrone Germany at the Euro. They moved the ball better than France & Germany did in the first game.

  • HOFCToDi

    Match: Women’s National Team vs. England
    Date: March 4, 2017
    Competition: SheBelieves Cup
    Venue: Red Bull Arena; Harrison, N.J.
    Kickoff: 5:22 p.m. ET
    Attendance: 26,500
    Weather: 26 degrees; chilly

    ussoccer.com/stories/2017/03/04/21/16/20170304-recap-wnt-falls-to-england-1-0-in-front-of-sell-out-crowd-in-new-jersey

    Sure beats the ghost town better known as the Algarve Cup.

    • By the Shore

      But is the weather nicer?

      • HOFCToDi

        Sunil Gulati is into counting money.

        youtube.com/watch?v=rZK_so3V8YI

        Cha-Ching!

        • ARED

          The football may make you ill, but at least people are getting rich from it!

          (The US Soccer motto?)

    • Steglitz49

      26F when they could have played in Florida or Texas.

  • HOFCToDi

    MIA

    McDonald
    O’Hara
    Sonnett
    Campbell
    Pinto

    ussoccer.com/womens-national-team/latest-roster#tab-1

    I don’t expect Campbell or Pinto to play.

    • captainfate

      https://twitter.com/JeffKassouf/status/838205660944805888

      Jeff tweeted that O’Hara picked up a slight injury.

      And here I thought she had murdered one of Ellis’ peacocks or something.

      • ARED

        I had wondered whether O’Hara or Lavelle would get any real chances this tournament, based on a bad feeling I had from Ellis. I felt it was 50/50, but was nice to see Lavelle get her chance, and if O’Hara cannot play at least maybe there is a reason (for once). She is probably the best player they have for the outside role in this (odd) formation they are using. Every other wide player would be much better suited if they were free to attack with a real defensive line behind, instead of only the three.

        • Steglitz49

          Rose Lavelle got her chance and by all accounts took it with all paws and ran with it.

          Pia converted KO into an LB. She can be an attacking wing-back.

        • #1Fan

          Eliis does not think she is.

  • BCAD

    I was at the game tonight and man was it freezing.

    • HOFCToDi

      Sellout crowd.

      • USMNTfan4life

        For USWNT. For France v Germany, barely anyone showed up. WoSo is mainly about US nationalism. Nothing more. That is why the NWSL is struggling for relevance. In international tournaments, the popularity of the USWNT is what keeps WoSo afloat.

        France and Germany are good women’s teams, and it is a damn shame no one went to go and watch them.

        • ARED

          Well, to be fair it is a bit difficult to expect anyone to travel to the USA for these matches no? I agree the crowds follow the national teams, especially the USA. But World Cups and Olympics draw fans beyond just the USA -but I’m not sure “SheBelieves” has quite earned that prestige level….. ; )

          • Steglitz49

            If it was held in Florida so tourists could go to Disney and Cape Canaveral, Miami, the Everglades and Sanibel Island and what have you, maybe a chance to attract foreign visitors.

          • ARED

            I suppose, but I am not sure at this moment that WoSo is big enough to expect so many fans to come across for this small tournament. If you can chose WC, Olympics, or SB, why pick this one? But maybe they could get the winter travelers in FL as you say. Write a letter to Gulati -if he thinks it will pay more, it will be done in seconds! ; )

          • Lincoln

            I guess the original point was on something different

            it is not a shame that only few visitors and fans from Europe came over.

            It is a shame that almost nobody in the US is interested to watch a game of two of the best teams in the world. Most of them are ONLY interested in the US winning.

          • ARED

            Yes, I did assume that was part or most of the point. But my first question still remains (do you expect travelers to come to the USA), and the second I was implying is: Should we expect fans to care about another game when their team is about to play?

            The comment referenced NWSL, but I replied because in club soccer you always have the “home” team to draw a crowd. But we cannot expect a “home” crowd for France or England, when the game is across the ocean. And, I do not think we can expect too many Americans to sit -especially in such conditions -for 5 hours, although I agree it is a shame and would be happy to have more Americans see the European teams play.

            The truth remains that WoSo just is not a big sport. So I understand the sentiment, but I do not think we should criticize too harshly either. Any sellout crowd in WoSo is a good thing, even if it takes a two-match combination of the best 4 teams in the world to get it.

          • #1Fan

            I look at it this way. It would be nice to see more soccer fans come to watch high level women’s soccer. Take the Nationalism out of it.

            This is one of the reasons I fear how much we will improve. WE need girls coming to the games because they love the game. Not to ONLY be there to rah rah and gush over a heroine. Im not saying thats bad, Its fine, but its the difference between a game being part of your culture and a game being a chance to root for your country.

          • Jean Perroni

            I don t think most of those USWNT/NWSL soccer fans care about women soccer or soccer in general for that matter. They only care about the famous american atheletes that they can relate to.
            MNT/MLS fans in other hands are more close to international soccer family.

          • ARED

            I agree, and believe there is a big lack of this attitude -the love of the game and watching the actual players and what they do. This hurts the future of the game in regards to players and fans, because most (all?) leagues still need many more loyal fans who care about the game and the players, not just the celebrity or spectacle.

            I was just trying to clarify that I don’t think WoSo is at a level to be overly critical of attendance figures, and it was claimed in a way that suggested nobody outside of the USA cares or can draw an audience -and was in reference to this match. I knew to some extent they meant it was a shame more Americans did not go, but they said it in a way the also implied WoSo is struggling b/c “In international tournaments, the popularity of the USWNT is what keeps WoSo afloat”.

            This is an international tournament, but unlike a WC or Olympics which may reasonably draw crowds to non-native matches, as well as drawing more native fans across to the tournament, this one is only just becoming an event. But Germany, “London”, Canada, and “Rio” have shown us that crowds can be drawn outside of the USA and outside of the USWNT -that is the point I was making.

            I think it’s a shame that this match was played right before the USA match, instead of at another time and drawing it’s own sellout crowd. But that is a dream world, in the real world, I think we got what we should expect at this moment more or less.

          • #1Fan

            We agree.

          • Steglitz49

            If it had been the men of Germany playing the men of France etc, you could have sold out Giants stadium. Heck, if Sweden with Zlatan played the Faeroe Islands the chances are it would be full.

          • ARED

            Yes to the first, no to the second… ; p

          • Steglitz49

            You are probably right but don’t underestimate the Faeroe Islands. They have special soccer laws OKed by FIFA and they have been giant killers in the past.

          • ARED

            Have they? lol….no disrespect….

          • Steglitz49

            The one that comes up in quizz-shows is that they are allowed to have a placer for penalties. Because the often high winds, when a penalty is about to be taken, a player is allowed to put his hand on the ball so it does not roll off the spot. (Rugby has the same rule.)

          • ARED

            I meant have they been giant killers, but that is actually pretty odd I’m surprised I haven’t heard of that law.

          • Steglitz49

            I think they drew with Germany about 15 years ago. Other teams have struggled playing them. In the Faeroe Islands, of course.

          • ARED

            I see. I know a bit about it, but hadn’t remembered and slayings of the top teams. And certainly the away leg is a challenge, compared to hosting them….lol.

          • #1Fan

            Bingo. Especially the last sentence. Thats ALL most care about. They dont care about the steps that need to be taken to preserve that happening.

            I see the U23 lost to Eng 0-2 yesterday as well. No cause for panic, but its very clear that the US are one of several countries investing in WoSo. The ones that invest best will prevail most often.

          • Steglitz49

            Maybe now that the new stadium is ready in Orland it will happen naturally.

          • Because..

            It was held in NJ because it was as far as Rampone would travel.

          • ARED

            Ouch…..lol.

          • TsovLoj

            That’s a lot farther from Europe. Remember that flight routes go up and over.

          • Steglitz49

            The route to Florida is different from the one to Boston & NYC.

      • Davestwin7

        Yet tickets were still for sale a couple of hours before the game

    • Miami66

      Me too! My face was frozen. Although we were in the sun for France-Germany and that was nice.

  • guest

    Is it just me or do other teams tend to get way more physical with Morgan than with our other attackers? (Bronze slamming down Morgan tonight as Morgan went for the cut back)

    • guest

      Maybe. I do feel like Morgan goes flying more often than anyone else on the team and stays down for longer. Maybe they’re more physical with her, maybe she is more dramatic about it than others.

      • guest

        Maybe. However, I also don’t think anyone on the team has gotten as targeted as she has since Abby Wambach. Morgan is also normally one of the stronger palyers with a good physicality on the team. However, I remeber the Lyon coach stating that he was reluctant to play Morgan after her food poisoning because she lost a lot of weight. That could explain things because normally she is a very strong and well built player.

      • ARED

        Well, she is faster and draws more fouls than most players, so that combination can be quite painful. Unless you are someone who expects a player to get kicked, even from behind, and never react….

        I have actually thought Morgan should learn to avoid these challenges in smaller matches however, because it is hard to stay fit when you play how she does, and she has had a lot of injuries bothering her, no?

    • HOFCToDi

      Pugh was chopped down from behind which was an obvious yellow card. None was forthcoming.

    • Steglitz49

      Probably.

      It goes with the territory when you have as big a reputation as Alex. JE should have left her in Lyon to recuperate.

    • Why not?

      I think they believe that it disrupts and throws her game off

  • Steglitz49

    England scored a goal but none of these 146 comments seem very interested in it.

    The US scored no goal at all.

    • ARED

      Haha. Well a few are interested in decided which American should be blamed.

      Not so many praising or even mentioning that England had a few touches on that play also…. ; p

  • Steglitz49

    China has kept faith with their 6’2″ goalie. She looks incongruous with her teammates but she saved China’s bacon several times against sweden. A 5’9″ goalie would not have.

  • brdn08

    Not enough quality in the attacking 3rd. I personallly didnt like the lineup and/or the alignment. I dont like Dunn as a mid, she either needs to be a forward or a defender. Way too much space in the middle of the field once Horan subbed off. I am just not sold on Press. I have literally never seen her have a great game against a really good international opponent. Mal needed to be more decisive but the other attacking players werent creating spaces into which she could play the ball.

    • guest

      uh… press was arguably the best player against germany. she’s not a sub though, she needs to start. my guess is she starts against france

      • brdn08

        she was allowed to start at the world cup and didnt take advantage of the opportunity. I cant keep apologizing for her lack of impact.

        • Reality

          Ellis should be apologizing for her lack of impact. Press scored the winning goal in the first game against Australia and then when the whole team stunk up the place against Sweden in the second game, Ellis in effect chose to ignore Press for the rest of the tournament.

          • brdn08

            Seems like it was the right decision

          • Reality

            We’ll never know that. What we do know is that we did manage to win, but the manner in which we achieved victory cemented Lloyd’s detrimental influence on the team since then and for the foreseeable future.

    • ARED

      Out of curiosity, do you like the lineup very often in USA matches?

      • brdn08

        its hit or miss for me . Id like to see Mallory in the middle of the field.While i think Carli can be impactful shes one of the worst passers on the team. Alex either needs a player in the mold Syd (high motor, real speedy, and physical) or Abby (aerial supremacy, tough to mark and physical) in order to maximize her offensive potential. I would like to see Dunn and Morgan up top with Brian Horan Heath Pugh and Lavelle as mids. as long as Broon and Johnston are in the back 3 and sonnett isnt, Im good. I still think Dahlkemper or Gilliland should be given time in the third spot. Those are just a few thoughts I have

        • ARED

          I never do, b/c don’t think Lloyd should be in it, and the best/most creative players always are either in supporting roles or missing completely.

          I like/agree with much of your points, although I’d mention that perhaps if we saw Press more as a forward against good opponents we may see her have a great game ; ).

          In general, I think it is embarrassing that the USA has not played several games with various combinations of Morgan, Leroux, Press, and now Dunn/Williams/etc, playing together, so if we had or ever do the picture may be clearer in the front. But in the middle, I think your picks are not bad, and I of course agree we should see chances for new defenders as well.

          • brdn08

            As soon as I heard the back three tonight, I knew the US was doomed.

          • ARED

            For me it was as soon as I saw Lloyd.

            (But the back three didn’t help).

  • NYRick

    So it’s about 4 am, just woke up coughing and sneezing from being at the game.
    Can’t sleep, feeling like hell, but figured I check out people’s reaction to the match. Here’s mine.

    For starters, bitter bitter cold. Not sh*ting you. I don’t know if it was the fact that it was 70 degrees here just last week and the readjustment to this cold was bizarre, but this was some bone chilling cold to sit through. In fact, I can’t remember being colder at a sporting event in my life and I’ve sat through many Giants and Jets football games in late December. In fact, anyone from the area may know, the old Shea Stadium (a horseshoe shaped stadium) was the coldest place on the known universe with swirling winds to sit in December for Jets games, especially if you sat high up in the mezz area. It felt Shea Stadium December cold yesterday. My seats yesterday were in the lower corner (upper tier) on the side the goal was scored on. Great full house crowd with spirit, but people were cold, no doubt.

    I’ve recorded the game so it’s difficult to accurately give great perspective on the match when you see it in person depending on where you sit. I concentrated on watching players individually for positioning and movement. I will say that right from the start, my reaction was “England is much better than Germany.” That was apparent that they came to play. This game was a very big deal to them.

    1. People in the stands were buzzing a bit over Lavelle. In person, my perspective is how fast she is running with the ball, that surprised me because I honestly haven’t seen her play much. She is also lanky with long legs and has a gracefulness about herself when she gets going. She was a little shaky early on, then played herself into the game. Defensively, she made some mistakes, but impressive first cap for sure.

    2. Bronze is a stud. Great player, and I thought the best player on the pitch. She is undoubtedly the straw the stirs the drink for that team. Which by the way, Sampson has them playing with great spirit. They really enjoyed their goal obviously. Kind of liked White doing the “google eyes” in the celebration. This team has lost a lot of close ones late to big teams, so I guess they deserved getting one for once at the end.

    3. Pugh is getting by right now on pace. There were times where she simply tries to do too much on the flank. Get the damn ball into the box with a cross once in awhile. Also, the flanks on both sides were wide open. I don’t know if that was Sampson’s strategy, but both Lavelle and Pugh had a lot of room to operate out there. I thought they both freelanced a little too much and would prefer them to get the ball central once they beat a defender.

    4. I think taking Dunn out was a mistake if you wanted to win. She was bothering them. I don’t think any of our subs were that effective.

    5. Shout out to Mewis. I thought she was very good, and JJ played well. The goal was a clusterf&%k bad clear confusion mess that several players were involved in, but none the less, it happens sometimes. It was shocking because I was fully expecting like everyone else for it to end 0-0.

    6. Lloyd non existent and it’s time folks to move on. Alex was making runs but it is so surprising we seem to have no one in the center of the pitch (less Mewis) willing to provide service to the forwards. I think Andi Sullivan may have made a difference in this type of match.

    7. Press you say? I know you’re waiting. Well, she did have a bad gaffe that led to the two final corners before the goal. And actually I don’t think she had many touches at all before that. I was excited to see her enter at around the 63rd minute with Williams, but she didn’t impact the game. I think she is a starter and not the greatest sub one can pick in a pressure spot. But no excuse, you have to make the most of your minutes, especially against the big teams.

    Honestly, all these players were cold too. Must have been like kicking a bowling ball out there.

    • Steglitz49

      The English media too singled out Rose Lavelle for praise. To be fair, they did not criticize any US players, just praised Ms Lavelle.

    • ARED

      I agree that Bronze is a great player who always impresses with her energy and will to both keep England steady but also give them a push forward -which they sometimes don’t find, so getting it from the RB is a big plus.

      I actually thought that Lavelle was the best player in the match and on that side, but it was a great matchup through the game and probably these two were the best on the pitch.

      The USA TV kept wondering about Lavelle being “nervous”. I was wondering if they’ve ever kicked a soccer ball at all, nevermind on a cold day like this. I think all players can be forgiven a bad touch or two.

    • dw

      Hats off to you Rick, for supporting the team, knowing you don’t really support the coach, the captain or the system. And probably knowing you’d freeze. Last game is down near me. I’ll be watching from my couch…

    • mockmook

      When a ball pings around after hitting the crossbar, anything can happen no matter how well people are marking up to that point — so, I don’t blame anyone for that goal. Look at the goal for the USA against GER

      Lavelle actually looked kind of slow to me except when she got moving with the ball. But, a great debut.

      • ARED

        Run smarter, not harder. (Especially when you are smaller and not as fast). ; )

    • #1Fan

      #3

      Pugh. Interesting you say do too much? I see her trying to do the same thing. Out sprint the defender without much subtlety, change of pace or deception. I think she is good, but I have not seen much change in her game since debut. Maybe this is due to injury and a heavy playing load. Players do need time to develop

  • ARED

    An interesting match, and interesting to hear and see the reactions in the USA before and after all of these matches. Great job for England, and they deserved to win I believe. Sampson continues to be a coach I think is impressive, despite much more talk about others. And the English players completely understand and follow the system, which allows for a full performance up their highest possible levels.

    The USA with Ellis seems to almost want close matches, and they are vulnerable to suffer from only one mistake if the match is close like this. It is strange to me to always here the media and coaches and even the captain accept this so easily and continue to say they have just come together, or they have only played a few matches, and so they excuse poor play with an assumption in will get better in time. I wonder how long this should take, how many years? (And I am not trying to be rude, it is a serious thing to wonder given the comments you hear).

    The system is poor, and the player selection is poor. It usually is, and the USA usually can win a close game, or if the players are really playing well (or the opponent is poor) sometimes they make it a big win despite this. But I was not surprised to see them suffer against teams like Sweden and England many times over these years. They have many great midfielders and attackers in the roster, but on the field they have a terrible midfield. The have quality and variety in their strikers, but they rarely create great chances. Interesting indeed…..

    • guest

      They almost always win so there isn’t much incentive to change.

      • ARED

        True, in many ways. But if you want to be the “best in the world” and/or win World Cups and Olympics, you have to understand and accept that if you seem to end up winning most games, but losing some very important ones, that perhaps your status quo isn’t so wonderful. In the 2000’s Germany has 2 WC, Japan 1, USA 1. Good yes, but they may find that incentive yet, especially as teams like England and Sweden show they are now in the mix as well.

        (It used to be that nobody could score against the USA, even if they outplayed them. But the USA could score from nowhere, and win the match. Now, slowly, that has been changing on both sides.).

        • DNG

          “(It used to be that nobody could score against the USA, even if they outplayed them. But the USA could score from nowhere, and win the match. Now, slowly, that has been changing on both sides.).”

          I would expect both of those things you mentioned as the US changes to a more possession oriented team. I don’t see them as huge reasons for concern obviously you’d hope they’d eventually be able to score against anyone in a number of different ways while strangling opponents but they’re chasing the elusive beautiful play now. Otherwise they could just load up on elite athletes, play in a low block and counter. I think they’d always be an effective and very difficult team to beat which is what single elimination tournaments are about.

          • mockmook

            Come tournament time, I think the USA can still overwhelm the world with “beast mode” — go for the fast/quick athletes (with some skilz)

            http://drawformation.com/post/58b8637373924/sm-58b8637373924.png

            And, there are a bunch of players in the NWSL/NCAA pipeline that (if given a shot) could crack into this “beast” lineup by 2019 and make it even stronger.

          • ARED

            Yes, I agree to an extent at least. Though I’m not sure I’d agree the USA should struggle so much to create good chances against teams like England and Sweden -who have improved, but this is why the USA should have “incentive to change”. For example, if they changed out Wambach and Lloyd sooner, I believe they would have better team results, instead of being satisfied forgoing new options for the old and safe way. And that is only lineup changes, not even mentioning the strategy and style of the team.

            It’s one thing to struggle against France or Japan, but I’m not sure it should be comforting that for much of recent history the USA has struggled greatly for goals and even quality chances against “second tier” nations as well. (USA, GER, FRA, JAP……ENG, SWE, AUS, CAN…..etc). -As well as sometimes teams like South Korea and South Africa.

        • Steglitz49

          Sweden have been in the mix all the time. England has gone up and down a bit but with (some of) their rich men’s clubs putting money and resources to their ladies, English WoSo will steadily improve. France is harder to assess because they seem to lack som fibre and steel.

          Of the emerging nations, Spain is the one with most resources. It is too early to assess Portugal. NL is doing fine. Both Colombia and Mexico are making efforts. Oddly enough, Norway seems to have gone into a disastrous spell. Norway is the small country with the best record.

          • ARED

            Well yes, but I mean in the mix to win WCs and Olympics, and I do credit Sweden for always being able to win any match, I am not sure they really had a good chance to win the big trophies, although they did come close in 2003 -and I said “in the 2000’s”, so I concede that part.

            From 2004-2015 though, I think it was safe to bet that Germany, USA, Japan, France, or Brazil would win the big trophies. Sweden and Canada some might argue, but not me, although they and England seem to be getting closer to challenging this though, we will see how it goes in the future.

          • Steglitz49

            France?!??!! You have better stop inhaling now because 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, and now 2016 tell their miserable story better than any statistic can.

            To lose 2003 on a Golden Goal and to lose in the SF in 2011 against the ultimate champions, having beaten the US in the group game must count for something, also the draw in WC-15 and then the Glorious 12th in 2016.

            Oddly enough, Norway, who is having an awful Algarve Cup, like the US did in 2014, is the small country with the best record.

          • ARED

            My full summary:

            For much of 2000-2015 there were only 3 teams to pick for me at each major tournament. The huge odds were on USA or Germany to win any tournament throughout, and the “third” team varied from Brazil to France to Japan. Japan forced their way in, making it a steady top three from 2011-2015, with France behind as “talented enough but hasn’t proven they can win it”. There is a second level of teams who could win, but would be a shock. This is usually teams like Sweden, (France/Brazil), Canada, Australia, England, etc. For me, these teams are now more able to actually compete at these tournaments, meaning while I still rate them as in the “second level”, the odds of them actually lifting a trophy seem to be getting lower to me.

            Sweden has had many good performances surely, and I am not trying to be harsh to them. But it would be a bigger upset or surprise for them or England to *win* a WC than France right now. They can finish well of course, but to win you must beat at least one if not 2-3 very good teams, and usually I see England or Sweden able to beat those teams, but not consistently with no margin for error.

          • Steglitz49

            During the past 35 years there has been one big WoSo NT: the US. After that it is a bit of a crap shoot but Germany and Japan are the obvious choices. Next step is probably Norway on their own.

            Then follows a morass of teams like Sweden, Brazil, Canada and France, who are more difficult to set a value on. Euro-17 will give us some more pointers as regards, Holland and Spain.

            France needs one or two players who can inject steel and purpose, sense a method, into them. Till that happens they will continue to be bested with monotonous regularity.

            Without the US, there would not be any WoSo of the type we recognize today. USA! USA!! USA!!! Sweden was another nation who contributed to this development but many NTs like Germany are relative latecomers, as is England.

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