Tuesday Roundup: Reign sign New Zealand defender Rebekah Stott

The Equalizer Staff January 17, 2017 112

Also in this roundup, four players held over from u-23s have left USWNT camp and Scotland women’s national team head coach to step down after Euro 2017

Rebekah Stott started all games for her New Zealand side in the 2015 FIFA Women's World Cup (Photo Copyright Erica McCaulley for The Equalizer)

Rebekah Stott started all games for her New Zealand side in the 2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup (Photo Copyright Erica McCaulley for The Equalizer)

Today, the Seattle Reign FC announced the signing of New Zealand defender Rebekah Stott. She will be joining the team in Seattle for pre-season in March ahead of the 2017 NWSL season.

Stott is currently playing in her second season with the Melbourne City FC of the W-League in Australia where she is teammates with Reign FC’s Jessica Fishlock, Lauren Barnes, and Beverly Yanez for the 2016-2017 season. She also spent last season with Melbourne City where she was instrumental in helping the team to a W-League Championship in 2016.

According to the official press release from the Reign, Laura Harvey is excited about the versatility of Stott, “Rebekah has experience playing in multiple positions, which is something we need across the backline.”

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During the 2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup, Stott appeared in all three matches for New Zealand. She started all games and scored one goal during the team’s appearance in the group stage. To date, she has recorded three goals in 42 appearances for the senior team.

 

Four of the five U-23 players in USWNT camp have been released

Casey Murphy to remain with in USWNT for remainder of January camp after a successful U-23 camp (photo: Rutgers)

Casey Murphy to remain with USWNT for remainder of January camp after a successful U-23 camp (photo: Rutgers)

On Tuesday, the United States women’s national announced that four of the five players Jill Ellis held over from the U-23 camp have been released from full national team camp. GK Casey Murphy, however, will stay with the team throughout the remainder of January camp whereas Mandy Freeman, Savannah McCaskill, Tierna Davidson and Brianna Pinto are set to leave camp.

{MORE: Ellis invites five U-23 players into USWNT January camp }

These five players were originally invited by Ellis to stay and train with the senior USWNT on Friday after impressive performances during the U-23 camp, but have since been released according to U.S. Soccer on Tuesday.

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Murphy, the New Jersey native, is a rising senior at Rutgers University who recently served as the starting keeper for the U.S. U-20 women’s national team at the 2016 U-20 FIFA Women’s World Cup this past November. She joins goalkeepers Jane Campbell (Houston Dash), Adrianna Franch (Portland Thorns FC), Ashlyn Harris (Orlando Pride), and Alyssa Naeher (Chicago Red Stars).

Scotland women’s national team head coach to step down after Euro 2017

Anna Signeul intends to step down as head coach of the Scotland women’s national team to take a job as the head coach of the Finland women’s national team after the upcoming UEFA EURO 2017 championship in the Netherlands this summer.

After 12 years with the Scottish FA, Signeul led the team to their first-ever major tournament which will be this summer’s EURO 2017. In addition to her time as head coach, she has also played an important role in establishing an academy system that has continued to support the development of players across the country.

According to the official release from the Scottish FA, now that the announcement has been made and her future clarified “the focus for the players and staff is on the EURO finals and we know there is a lot of work to be done to prepare the team for the tournament.” Her focus now shifts to ensuring her squad is “in the best possible condition for the finals.”

 

  • Som Termanni

    No story on the Algarve Cup draw, then? OK. Best of luck to Canada’s imminent steamrolling of their group: http://www.womenssoccerunited.com/algarve-cup-2017-teams-and-groups-announced/

    • mockmook

      Wow!!!

      Group C is the Group of Double-Dog-Dare-Death compared to the others.

      And, how can you possibly get a “fair” pair of teams from 3 groups (for the Final)?

      • Steglitz49

        On paper group C look the most eve, then B.
        — Grp A: Canada, Denmark, Portugal, Russia
        — Grp B: Iceland, Japan, Norway, Spain
        — Grp C: Australia, China, Netherlands, Sweden

        Portugal has qualified for Euro-17. Their first major tournament, like for Scotland. The Portuguese though hosts are, granted, the weakest of the bunch so whichever group you put them in, they will struggle.

    • Tom F

      I don’t think their going to be steam rolling Denmark. Their a nifty team with a 2-0 victory of Sweden in heir last Euro qualifiers.They even have my pick as 2016 best player in the world, captain Pernille Harder, along with Nadim upfront. Other notables; Frauzing-Pederson(Brisbane)Roddik_Hansen(Barcelona)Veje(Reign) & their gk,(think her name is Pedersen too) has quite a rep in Europe too.
      Watch out for Harder this spring; she’s just switched over to Wolfsburg, If Carlonie Hansen can stay un injured, I’m willing to bet the She Wolves can upset Lyon this time around in the Champion’s League

      • Steglitz49

        Pernille Harder is something else. Linköping lost Pernille, Stina Blackstenius to Montpellier and Fridolina Rolfö to Bayern Munich. I guess Jessica Samuelsson is still there.

  • The wording of it makes it seem like the players did not perform up to Senior team standards and thus are heading home – or am I reading that wrong? Not a knock on any of them, as it’s their first time with the Senior team.

    • xanthophobe

      that’s how I first read it, although the thought did occur to me that maybe the plan all along was just to give them a quick look? But like you said, it’s their first time and none of them even have any pro experience so it can’t be seen as too much of a knock.

    • mockmook

      Or, did the USWNTPA somehow put the kibosh on this?

      • DNG

        Definitely not impossible. But why would they keep the goalkeeper around then?

        • mockmook

          I don’t know.

          But, I “smell” intrigue afoot.

          • Steglitz49

            I doubt thare is any intrigue. The answer is simple: height and performance.

            Jane Campbell, Adrianna Franch (probably not fully recovered yet so never will be), Ashlyn Harris (did not make OG-16 squad), and Alyssa Naeher are all 5’9″ while Casey Murphy is 6′.

            Had Hedvig Lindahl been 6′, she would have saved DZ’s 1-0 goal in the OG final but at 5’10&1/2 she was a couple of cm too short.

        • Steglitz49

          They need a new goalie for WC-19 and JE has seen the light that a goalie shorter than 5’11” belongs to the past.

        • Som Termanni

          Has anyone confirmed that Franch actually reported to this camp? She bailed on the last one for family issues, and people found out only when fans asked why she wasn’t there. Nobody reported on it outside of SoccerAmerica.

      • Eh, sometimes I am skeptical of that. But not in this case. I assume they kept extras around to begin with so they could scrimmage with subs, and then when they did that, realized these 4 probably weren’t up to that level yet.

        • Breakers fan

          Or maybe felt they had kept them out of school long enough? That for now they’d seen enough – not a negative, just –enough for now.

          • Yes, also very possible. Or maybe it was the plan all along – spend the first 4 days with the Senior team, see how the operate during 2-a-days and what it takes to be at this level and then head home.

          • Breakers fan

            Right – I think that’s most likely. It probably wasn’t that after a scrimmage they said “I’m re-evaluating based on what I saw today. We’ve decided to send you home now after *that*, except for you, Casey.” But I’m not sure how Murphy’s situation would differ – maybe a different school schedule, or who knows what? Something that made sense.

          • Yea or they just saw enough potential for her to stay – as in, I could see you getting called up again next time, so stay and train. Who knows. These are the things I would love to know about with USSF that we will never get to. Why do they make the decisions they make.

          • Breakers fan

            Yeah it seems like there are things that don’t need to be kept secretive or unknown – like this topic. They could have talked a bit about the 5 they kept, and then they could have said why they were let go after 4 more days. Could be the reporter’s fault for not trying to delve into the subject more, or could be the Federation being tight-lipped and saying they’d rather not elaborate.

    • #1Fan

      Not trying to be rude and I have not seen Davidson play, but I feel that the people who select players are trying to be too clever. you have a16yr old coming off a U23 camp. I bet she is tired mentally and physically, out of place socially and ready to go home. I know midterms are going on at many schools. Did Davidson light up the Pac-12? If not, then why was she selected at all?

      USSF are trying too hard to show you that they are thinking outside the box. I think they should just go back to basics. Identify the qualities they are looking for and select the players who best exhibit them. Build a team around them and develop more players who have that skill set. .

      I have tough time with selecting kids who were supposed to be integral parts of teams who did not perform well. Its a simple decision tree for me. If Pinto was great in the WC – no issues. If she has great potential but we did not see it in the WC – ask the coach why not. And if not satisfied with the answers then time to fire him. I am still struggling with the concept that a a team with 2 players deemed good enough for FULL NT camp inclusion on a team as deep as the US cannot get out of its U17 WC group and is soundly outplayed by every team it faced bar one – Paraguay.

      The fact that the coach has not been fired yet is astounding to me. By calling in 3 players from that team to the u-23s the federation is saying that its NOT the players.

      • DNG

        Even if the player’s weren’t good enough, and I’m not sure I believe this, the coach should be fired. BJ Snow selected this squad did he not. The youth coaching staff seem to be accountable for very little. Was Snow also the coach of the team that didn’t qualify in 2014?

        • #1Fan

          yes he was.

          • Steglitz49

            High time for him to fall on his sword.

          • DNG

            I think it past time he was replaced then. He’s had two cycles to figure it out and hasn’t. There is no good reason that the US youth squads should have been consistently outplayed in just about every WC match this year.

          • #1Fan

            Agreed but still no word. Recent events tell you that USSF don’t think it’s the players

      • Yea I definitely agree. A U-23 camp right into a Senior team camp for a 16 year old is asking a ton. It’s like they loved the praise they got from a year ago when everyone was obsessed with “17 YEAR OLD!!!” Mal Pugh, so now they want to keep it going.

        • Steglitz49

          There is no excuse for bringing 16 year young ones into the senior squad. Let them be 18 before they are exposed to the heavier forces and tougher game.

      • Breakers fan

        Davidson was very, very good in the Pac-12 this year as a Freshman. I saw Stanford play about 7 games and she was a standout, so although initially I was surprised to see her get the U23 call-up – just due to her age — that she was selected for it didn’t bother me because I like her game. The fact that she stood out in their eyes in the U23 camp to me is evidence that she was a legitimate selection for the U23 camp in the first place – that is, assuming the people who made the evaluations of the U23 camp aren’t cuckoo. I don’t think they are. I think it’s safe to say that no matter who is chosen you’re going to get objections, disagreements, almost without fail. There are exceptions to that – Mandy Freeman would be one, I would think.
        Pinto in the U17 World Cup? I’d like to go back and focus on her performance just so I can see what you’re alluding to in your feelings about it. She does seem young to “go this far” even if it’s just for 1 week but as just a fan with no vested interest I take it to mean “Here’s a young defender who could be something special, and that’s exciting.” That’s as far as I go for the most part in my evaluation and analysis. I hope it hasn’t disrupted her academics too much. How she’ll be received back among the other U17s, I have no idea. I would hope they could be happy for her and not let it negatively affect the way they look at her in some kind of jealousy thing.

        • #1Fan

          im happy to reward them if we believe the potential is there. My point remains that given the performance, it takes some convincing for me to believe that 3 of the 11 starters were outstanding BUT we were still awful. If thats the case, then how on earth is BJ Snow still employed ? OR is the rhetoric that he did an AMAZING job developing those 3? That really is a stretch given what i know of the players concerned. I think the point bears laboring that its not like the USA are short on players to give that look to. There were several outstanding College performances this year no? Are we really saying that there was no one under consideration form that pool? You can go back and look at the performances and maybe you will agree, maybe you wont. It just seems to em that there is a desperation to force youth into these opportunities that really dont go anywhere. Not long ago Taryn Torres (16 at the time) was deemed good enough to be on the U20 roster. She was not even selected for the U17 WC and 15 yr olds were. What changed in that time. Was she not picked on potential? Is she now not good enough? Frankly the ridicolous lack of consistency in evaluation and selection if hard to accept and those doing the selecting seem to be above any form of accountability. My hope is that Pinto is not simply the latest in a line of kids accelerated ahead of their time only to then fall out of grace. Selecting a U16 MIDFIELD player is a massive deal and I for one dont think that the USSF has really thought about the ramifications at all.

          • Breakers fan

            Quick question – is Pinto a midfielder of a back? Or is the “16 year old midfielder” that you referenced Sanchez? As far as players getting chosen and then not chosen later (Torres) — maybe odd, – (and where is she now – out of the system?) but at least that jibes with something you were advocating for earlier, I believe. Namely “emphasis on current form rather than riding on the coattails of your reputation and past accomplishments.”
            Maybe there should be a rule: no call-ups to the senior team for anyone under age .. 20, 21,22? If you were in charge would you have an age requirement for this?

            It does seem like there is some kind of inside fast track that exists between YNT players and the senior NT more so, maybe much more so, than there exists between the college players and the senior National Team. I don’t think that should be the case but it seems like it is.

          • Steglitz49

            Under the age of 18, maybe?

          • #1Fan

            CM . Im not advocating current form for developmental purposes as such. If you think a kid is good enough to be on older teams then something catastrophic must have happened if 9m later she is not good enough to make the U17 WC roster. Its like the Rachel Jones example, good enough for a camp invite EVERY time, but not good enough to make the final roster? Bumped for a 15 year old? Makes no sense at all.

            its not chosen then not chosen . Its elevated, then not chosen for your ORIGINAL team. Or chosen very time and then dropped. There seems to very little rhyme or reason once you move to the evlaluations of Youth team players.

        • #1Fan

          what position does Davidson play and was she selected for the U20 WC team and declined ?

          • Breakers fan

            I’ll respond to your longer post later but about Davidson – CAM. Long, lean, lefty. Very good passer and scored a decent amount of goals too. Struck me as technical, tough and smart. I believe several Stanford players chose to not red-shirt. I know Xiao has been in the YNT system, not sure if she was invited to the U20 WC team but I do know she played at Stanford this past year. I hear you though about Pinto leap-frogging over every college player as a right back. That said I need to see her play more to have any sense of a confident feel for how I evaluate her. It is significant for her to get this call-up. Her life won’t be the same,. Hopefully that’s a good thing for her.

          • #1Fan

            she is not a RB though. has never played there in her life !!

          • Steglitz49

            KO had not played LB till Pia converted her in 2012.

          • Breakers fan

            Ok, midfielder – wow, I thought I saw her at right back a few years ago, but I guess I’m wrong. To me back or midfielder here isn’t the main issue. I think with “the Pugh experiment” working so well, with Pugh showing so well that it may have accelerated this kind of thing happening more often. The question is: Is it ok, is it good? You spoke of the ramifications of it. What would you say those are? Again, like you, I lean more towards waiting on these girls also, but being on the outside of it all I just don’t know whether it’s definitely wrong from a personal development standpoint that goes beyond soccer – maybe it is — or whether it’s ok and warranted if the player is good enough.

          • #1Fan

            it makes a huge difference. If you ask me to put a young player at RW I say no problem. If you ask me to put a kid in a central role then I have some questions. out wide, you can isolate, use speed and impact the game. Centrally there si far more physicality and responsibility.

            You can figure out teh ramifications without me, but the one thing I will say is when you say good enough. Basis what? I believe a player who is under consideration for Full team Camps should be is a going to be dominant on age. Do you recall anyone on this blog who watched the U17 WC saying we were bad, but man that Pinto kid caught my eye, she was amazing? Put the pressure to one side. Is it easier to play with better players or weaker ones ? I guess I would love to know where adn how the evaluations were made becasue IF it was basis one U23 scrimmage or camp, then something is wrong. This kid has been in probably 15+ camps since 14 yrs old.

            BTW, the Pugh experiment is a work in progress for me and I dont think you can compare them. I dont think there is any way that the USSF intend to put Pinto in the Full team any time soon.

          • DNG

            Agree with all of this and on Pugh. Pugh’s been largely been sheltered and put into a position to succeed. And like you mentioned above it’s different playing a fast player on the wing and asking them to use their speed to impact matches than it is to play them in the middle. Look at HAO

          • Steglitz49

            Mallory was given a baptism of fire in OG-16. Let’s trust that that and U20 won’t dent her confidence but that she can keep developing.

          • Breakers fan

            My memory of Pinto is on the wing,not the middle but maybe I’m wrong.

            *Full Stop*: I’ve been thinking of Kiara Pickett this whole time!! So transfer my thoughts about position to Pickett – does that make more sense?
            It does seem like we never hear “why was so and so chosen?” You just assume “Because she’s one of the best.” In the selection process should you go on small sample sizes or big ones? I didn’t look at every Pinto touch in the World Cup, but even if she wasn’t great someone could make the “small sample size” argument. They could say “we’ve seen her in, (as you said) 15 camps, we’re not going to let a few bad touches, even if it was at the World Cup, totally determine the way we look at her right now”. Not saying she should have been called up necessarily to the U23 camp then the Full team camp, but I would also say that the fact that she held her own, maybe even stood out in that U23 camp speaks well of her and seems to indicate that whoever chose her to come into camp in the first place wasn’t so far off the mark. Whether the full team call-up was based on 1 scrimmage or several days of observation I don’t know. It is a small sample size and maybe you’re right that no matter how good she looked that age should have trumped all other factors. I’m not opposed to that. She’ll be around and maybe it’s best to recognize first those who have put more years of work into the program. I just don’t think I’m automatically and absolutely opposed to it in all cases at all times. First, because I wasn’t there, haven’t watched Pinto closely for the last few years. I don’t know how Pinto, even at 16 , compared to the other midfielders there. Though again, as you say “small sample size”. I don’t have enough knowledge of the situation to speak about it with certainty.

            How would you describe Pinto as a player and what kind of potential do you think she has? And where is Torres now? I do recall her being the Captain of the U17 team in a lot of the games I saw prior to the World Cup. That is very strange how she dropped off the map, apparently. Her case is kind of enigmatic. But time moves on and one hopes she can regain the standing she once had.

            About Davidson – I see your argument. What if every top player chose to play college soccer over going to the WC? Things would have been worse. I can see how you would want to reward “service to one’s country”.

          • #1Fan

            I assumed you meant Pickett. No problem. I dont buy the hold your own or stand out part and ill explain. Its like getting in to Harvard. The HARD part is getting in. I know several players who , on any given day, could stand out in a U23 camp. The question HAS to be how do they earn that chance? The 15 camp comment is more to say that IF you saw something that warranted Full team training inclusion, then why was she not on the U20 WWC team? or Both like Sanchez was? It is far more likely that in 15 camps the people she payed in front of did not recommend anything else and that the single scrimmage caused Ellis to give her a chance. I am not opposed to any of it per se . What i am opposed to is the random nature of this process and I dont believe it is how you do it.

            i have seen her play several times onYou tube and in person. have not seen her dominate a game yet. Maybe I have seen the wrong ones. No idea on Torres, but again not sure I agree on times moving on. I think its an example of the inconsistent approach. If she was a bubble player, lie Jones, then why every camp/? why ui20 camps. its like some kids are being given chance after chance whilst others get none. makes no sense. on Pinto, im sure she is good, but i guess i just dont see why a College player would not be given that look. You know what you think you have after 15 + camps and a WC even before the U23 camp. To me its overkill. Its also partly why teams like Mexico are having great success with players saying enough. Im not waiting by the phone anymore.

            With Davidson, its minor, but if I went to the WC to play for the US and kids declined, then I would hop that all things being equal my loyalty and sacrifice would count for something. Again, all things being equal,. If they were not and this kid is MILES better but was not selected then that again speaks to what i am talking about . No consistency in selection and no agreement on what the full team is looking for.

          • Breakers fan

            It is weird and seems wrong that Pinto hasn’t been getting called into even U20 camps and/or wasn’t asked to be in the U20 WC but then all of a sudden she jumps all the way to U23 and then a couple days later to the Senior team. It surprised the heck out of me when I saw it. It could be what you said – that Jill simply liked what she saw in her a lot in a scrimmage. I would hope it at least also involved some discussion with all the coaches from both teams, To me there are a few levels of scouting that can be done.

          • #1Fan

            Said my piece. its not wrong. It just shows you that there is not much planning behind some of these decisions.

          • Steglitz49

            It causes excitement. Generates a media buzz. Like Margaret Purce’s dress and her being picked in the first round.

            In short, PR. Something the USWNT is much in need of.

          • Breakers fan

            My point about Pugh is that they brought in a 17 year old and she did what she did and that I think has opened their minds more to the idea of trying out other young players. Not saying “Pinto necessarily is as highly thought of or as good as Pugh”, just saying she’s perhaps a byproduct or consequence of the Pugh move. I do think that to date the “experiment” or the move to bring in Pugh has been successful, clearly. For a 17 year old to do what she did with the full team is pretty remarkable. She became a starter on the Olympic squad within a couple months. To not consider that clearly “successful” to date is odd to me. There’s no guarantee of course about anyone playing fantastically going forward and Pugh is in that group and maybe that’s all you meant by “it’s a work in progress”: I do agree with DNG below who said it’s easier to succeed on the wing but Pugh has done that, by and large, quite well, better I think than anyone else in our system would have, not including the players that were already on the team. I have been one to point out that Pugh has made errors, hasn’t been perfect but I acknowledge all the very good playing she has done without hesitation.

          • #1Fan

            i tend to discount age. I dont think its particularly relevant. so when you say “for a 17yr old…” i dont look at it like that. I am just looking at her play in 2016 and I thought it was good, but not great. I diont recall her making the difference at either of the major events she played in so I cant call it great. I think she did a solid job. No more. I think there is a tendency to evaluate her as “for a 17yr old…” and i think once you are in the full NT picture that goers out the window. You are just another player. You dont get extra marks for being young. I beleive that Sanchez would do just as well from a soccer sense as Pugh has. The one area that a do give Pugh the highest marks woth the full team is that she never seemed to be mentally overmatched but soccer wise i am still waiting to see something that makes me elevate her to the next level.

          • Breakers fan

            I agree that once on the team age goes out the window,. But the initial thing that started this whole conversation: “Why is Pinto here?” – consideration of that question led to my idea that because “the Pugh experiment” has gone well, *in terms of a very young player playing at this level* that fact may have been a big factor in their subsequent willingness to bring in Sanchez and Pinto. Pugh got hurt very early on in the Olympics – ankle, so it’s hard to evaluate her Olympic performance because it was largely non-existent. I agree that perhaps her headiest days to date on the NT have been the earlier ones and that overall she has dropped off a bit since then. We’ll see what happens going forward but the main, overarching idea here in this conversation – which was largely about Pinto and Sanchez and why and how they’re there – is that now a precedent exists for bringing in a 17 year old and that player very quickly doing well, to a degree where she becomes a starter. Whether they *should have* brought even Pugh in at all is another question, and one I’m not sure about. I would have been perfectly fine if they had let Pugh play for a few more years developing. Hard for me to know what kind of effect, on a 17 year old’s life in its entirety, that kind of thing has but now she is and has been for some months now back with her peer group which I have to think is a very good thing for her.

          • Steglitz49

            You get hurt playing soccer. Germany had to bring in an alternate after on of their group games and Sweden lost Fridolina Rolfö early on against the US and had to bring one of their alternates up.

          • #1Fan

            Except she is injured. Overuse ? who knows. we can agree to disagree. I dont think the two are linked as such other than I do think the USSF are at a sensitive time. The GDA is not getting the universal take up they expected. Several Clubs have dropped out. What better way to remind everyone that the USSF can provide the NT opportunity for young women that elevating a 16 yr old to a u-23 team and then a full team experience? You may think I am overanalysing, but I think there is some truth to it, especially when the Draft and NCSAA conference are taking place and you have almost all the DoCs in attendance. lets be honest, its not like they have kept all the players in camp.

          • Breakers fan

            I don’t know what we’re disagreeing about? Something about Pugh, I think. I did say at the end of my post that I’m not certain it was right to call her up in the first place and that I would have been fine if they hadn’t done so for a few more years. Very hard to assign explanation with any certainty to an ankle turn as that can happen on day 1 or day 1000, as you know. I know that was the Olympic injury but have no idea what’s bothering her now, if it’s the same thing or something different.

            The struggling GDA angle to explain the Pinto call-up is something I wasn’t aware of. I didn’t know that the GDA wasn’t doing as well as they had hoped. Since that’s new to me I haven’t been able to consider it until now. I don’t dismiss what you’re suggesting. I think there could be something to that. Good thinking. (by the way, what is a “DOC?” Assume “Director of

          • #1Fan

            DoC = Director of Coaching

            I dont think that the Pugh call up has anything to do with Pinto or any other young player. The more I think about it the more I think it has to do with providing evidence of a thriving Youth system given the events of last year. Taking it one step further, I would not be shocked if they used this as a reason to praise the outstanding work that the existing Youth team staff is doing and keep them all for another cycle. Its the only way to counter those that are criticizing the performances in Jordan and PNG.

          • Breakers fan

            But without the success of what Pugh has done calling up someone like Pinto – nothing against her – would look pretty ridiculous. Your theory may have a lot of validity — we’re all speculating and guessing from the outside here – but even if it does what Pugh has done makes these call-ups have the appearance of a lot more reasonableness and sense; they’re a LOT easier to justify – “look at Mallory, it’s not crazy to do this.” The idea that “we have a great youth system, look at what we’re doing, we’re promoting 16 year olds to the full team, this could happen to your daughter too” even though the evidence of last Fall flies in the face of this, is in the area of reverse psychology and counter-intuition but it could be happening, what you suggest. I see what you’re saying and it does make a lot of sense in the big picture if teenage girls interpret it the way you think they will or the way the USSF wants them to interpret the Pinto happening. Again, even though the evidence is the opposite – that the youth system isn’t outclassing the rest of the world. Can teenagers see through the “illusion” presented, to the truth? What do you think? But I get your point and it’s one that should be proposed – thank you for it. I wouldn’t have thought of it on my own.

          • #1Fan

            HAO was 17 when she made her debut. That did not lead to an influx of young players.

          • Breakers fan

            Are you saying, and you may be absolutely right, that EVEN THE PUGH promotion was led by this, the attempt by the USSF to get a message out to young girls, one that says “Keep playing and please do it within our system. Success, big success, may come a lot earlier than you think! We train players the right way”. Is that the message that you think is trying to be sent by the USSF to young players? If I haven’t phrased it exactly as you would, how would you put it?

            Weird thing is – even if it was primarily a publicity tactic, a PR move, with Pugh it led to her being a starter, though as you said, it remains to be seen how good she’ll be and whether it really was the right thing to do to bring her up at that age, something I question.

          • #1Fan

            No. Im saying Pugh has been tabbed a s a phenom for a long long time and groomed for this. Constantly playing up in International events. Sanchez the same. The others not so much. I think Pugh and Sanchez stand alone.

          • Breakers fan

            Good to point out the social media aspect of young people’s lives.And thank you very much for that interesting update about the GDA in the present and how it differs from the ECNL. Appreciate that.

            So if promoting Pugh and Sanchez had nothing to do with promoting the GDA but doing so with Pinto had everything to with it you’re implying that the Pugh and Sanchez promotions were so fundamentally different that they had to amke a move in the present that was very different, one that would extend hope to not just the phenoms but to the more “blue collar” player — if I read you correctly.

            To go back to what I wrote/asked earlier, how would you phrase the underlying message that was being sent by the Pinto call-up? What were they saying to the 10s of 1000s of young female players with that move?

          • #1Fan

            There was nothing shocking about Pugh elevation or Sanchez. Both have played in multiple world cups for different age groups. They are USSF poster children. They double shifted both this year to prove it. Davidson did not go to the WC and I dont think she was on the U17 roster last WC. Pinto same. I would also say ( and yes they play different positions) that Pugh and Sanchez absolutely destroyed ECNL competition. If you watched a game with them in it, you immediately knew they were the best players on the field. The only other player i have seen like that is Catarina Macario. I think she is better than both Pugh and Sanchez. Pinto is not in that class to me. She is a neat tidy payer who has good touch and plays the right way, but she is nowhere near as dominant as the kids above.

            i think the Pinto Davidson Ivory Murphy call up to the U23s is as much relevant as the invite to stay on for 4 days.. Three of them were i at the WC and to me it says, we know we did not do well , but we have still developed these great players who are good enough to at least train at this level. On the U17 team you have Taglaferri who has been to 2 World Cups. On the U 20 team you have other celebrated kids.who were not invited, so it really says keep working and you never know. it also says that INDIVIDUAL developments is alive andd well even if we were poor as a team.

          • #1Fan

            wee live in a social media world. I bet you that Pintos InstaSnapBook [:)] has blown up. I bet you that this has touched so many kids and I bet you that they all want to be on a GDA team now thinking that it may be the slingshot they need. I dont think that the kids or the parents are aware of the results in the 2 WCs , the same way Carli is PoY and they have no idea to the contrary.

            Make no mistake, the GDA is a much harder sell than the USSF thought it was going to be. I dont think the have a Technical Director yet and the skeleton has not been fleshed out. If you are an ECNL Club, the DA is not a no brainer. Its much higher maintenance and far less return. You have a higher coaching cost and fewer players with rosters capped at 18. You also ahve to manage the INTERNATIONAL sub rules meaning that minutes for all is not going to happen. 71 clubs is down from the original 80+

          • Steglitz49

            The issue is rather that it has become rarer for young players to enter the senior ranks before 18. Having typed that Herdman in Canada brought on 3 or 4 early, and the same was true with Japan at least before WC-11 but I think Stina Blackstenius was 19 and Fridolina Rolfö 20 before they played for Sweden’s seniors.

          • Som Termanni

            Except for Australia, whom you hate, which habitually calls up teens and puts them alongside seniors in the W-League. Today’s newsmaker Alanna Kennedy got her first senior cap at 18, by which point she’d already seen minutes with two different W-League teams.

            The Matildas also have Ellie Carpenter, who got her first cap at 15 years old—a 90-minute debut, no less—is already in her second W-League season, and set the record for the youngest female footballer of any nation to appear in any Olympic Games.

          • Steglitz49

            Foord in WC-11 is the classic young Australian.

            Ellyse Perry concentrated on cricket a bit like Ingvild Flugstad Östberg on her skiing in Norway.

          • Steglitz49

            KO got her Hermann Trophy playing in the attack for Stanford but that did not stop Pia from converting KO to a LB for the NT. KO sometrimes plays RB for the NT also.

          • #1Fan

            i asked about Davidson, becasue she ahd better have been selected and declined. If not, then someone has to explain why she was not. I will add this, although it may be controversial. The players that actually answered the call and went to the WC deserved some USSF consideration for doing so, Unless the feedback is that the CAMs selected are not up to standard and IF that is the case, they why were they selected at all.

          • Breakers fan

            I tried to find out if Davidson was invited to be on the U20 World Cup team but could not find that info. I agree with you that if she wasn’t invited that was a big miss. Guessing she chose to play at Stanford but that’s just a guess. Who were the U20 CAMs– Ogle, Cousins and Demelo? Do you know of any other U20 CAMs that could have been named to that team who weren’t? I don’t think I do, but I wouldn’t be surprised if some very good ones are out there.

          • #1Fan

            im just saying if she declined then ask one of the kids who went. If she was not selected , then heads should be rolling. remember , given the way the USSF just invited kids, they dont have to be u-20 🙂

          • mockmook

            “if she declined then ask one of the kids who went”

            How long do you hold it against her?

          • #1Fan

            I dont and I dont think they should either. I just think they should be very appreciative of the kids that did. I have no idea if she declined or not. I assume that the kids that went are held in high regard by the federation.

          • mockmook

            If you are favoring the other kids over her, then you are “holding it against her”

          • Steglitz49

            There is no point arguing with #1Fan. Also, when he loses arguements he blocks you. You are on the cusp now. HOFCToDi is more honest.

          • #1Fan

            Interesting interpretation. Just curios, do you think that there should be no consequences at all of turning down international call ups for major tournaments?

          • Steglitz49

            It depends on if you mean seniors or below senior level.

            A senior player cannot refuse a call up to an official bona fide event and her club can’t refuse to release her. Players can asked to be excused and players as they get on ask not to be selected, as the Magic Dwarf did after leading Germany to their WC-14 win.

            Players below senior level are in a different position. Stanford take their academic responsibilities strongly. Thus, Christen Press had to decline the U20 WC she could have played in while Alex Morgan at Berkeley were able to play. Because such a declination is beyond the player’s control, it must not count against her.

          • mockmook

            I don’t think they should have put kids in the “either/or” situation.

            Accept kids onto the U-20 WWC team even if they don’t Red Shirt (if they are good enough even with, perhaps, missing some Camp time).

          • #1Fan

            Thats fair, but a totally different question. I believe that the USSF have gone way overboard in terms of residential camp time, but as I said different subject. You did not really answer the question which makes me think its not an easy one to answer.. I dont think its automatic that given someone credit for answering the call means you are giving a demerit for deciding other things come first.

            All this is moot really without knowing if she was invited and declined.

          • mockmook

            Perhaps this answer will satisfy you as responsive:

            No, they should not have rewarded/favored the players who Red Shirted (because it was an unreasonable request). So, they should have let them know from the outset that Red Shirting would have no reward/favoritism (beyond being on the 2016 WWC squad).

          • #1Fan

            Fair, you have your POV, but at the end of the day there are often sacrifices in this stuff. Its subjective as to what is or is not reasonable. Enough kids thought it was. I have no idea how the USSF looked at it.

          • Steglitz49

            Stanford does not look kindly on redshirting. It cost a certain player her chance to play for the U20s though she did get the Hermann Trophy as a consolation.

          • atalba

            She’s a DM 100% of the time. She played behind AndiS and she’s a great college player. She is ranked as the third best college player in the country. She was highly recruited into college and she is WELL KNOWN.

            She is so good that Ratcliff moved AndiS to AM, which was a great growth experiment for her. Tierna has great ball control for a long and slender build (for now). She smoothly moved back and forth with AndiS, like midfielders do on the NT (to cover). She started and played every game this season. She had an outstanding season and should have received top freshman of the year in the Pac-12, but another 6-foot midfielder from Colorado won (more points).

          • Breakers fan

            Thanks for that. Yes, I saw her too in many games as stated and can confirm what you are saying. I agree that she should have won freshman of the year. I thought she was closer to goal at least some of the time but I could be wrong – didn’t stop her from scoring several goals, though some of those may have been on set pieces. I think she could play CAM even if she mostly didn’t for them.

    • atalba

      They’re in college or high school. Break is ending. I swear!

  • mockmook

    I’ve figured out how JE will win the SBC this year — she will employ a “standard” 5-2-3 formation like so:

    http://drawformation.com/post/587ecfee6fad0/sm-587ecfee6fad0.png

    • DNG

      Looks like a 4-3-3. Interesting lineup but Morgan is not a wing. Pugh, Rapinoe and Heath would both be better in that wide left attacking position.

      • mockmook

        It’s sorta a hybrid in-between a 4-3-3 and a 4-4-2 Diamond

        So, Alex isn’t a Wing, she is a Cwingter Forward 🙂

        Also, Long is deeper than a typical DM in a 4-3-3 or a Diamond — when defending, she’d drop in between the CBs.

        • DNG

          Something similar to what Houston plays then I’m guessing. Personally the only lineup’s I would start Alex in are two forward lineups so here’s one to try and appease as many as possible.

          ————-Morgan——-Press—————
          ————-Heath———Brian—————
          Ohai—————-Long—————–Dunn
          ———-Short—–Broon—-Krieger———-

          • Steglitz49

            Your proposal is so backwardslooking it is unbelievable.

            Let’s get rid of the dead wood and move forward into sunlit uplands.

        • DNG

          http://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/amy-rodriguez-a-rod-returns-pregnancy-uswnt-forward-battle-nwsl?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_m_medium=t

          In this article Kassouf claims that Ellis is committed in the short term to the 3-4-3. I imagine she will continue to use 3 forwards in her lineups. I think it world work better with a striker and 2 AMs that can play inside and outside. That is how Chelsea play it at least which is one of the teams I think Ellis mentioned a couple months ago.

          • mockmook

            Thanks for that article!!!

            If JE is going with three in the back, I’d rather she would use a 3-5-2

            Who do you have in mind as the FW/AMs for the front three?

            I guess this is what you mean:

            http://drawformation.com/post/58814b9219e0e/sm-58814b9219e0e.png

            Lavelle and DiBernardo are Mid play-makers who are athletic enough to play (and have played) on the edge. They can also score.

          • DNG

            DiBernardo and Lavelle would be good choices. Looking farther down the line Pugh and Sanchez. Even players like Press, Rapinoe and Heath could be used. The key is that the 2 AM need to be comfortable checking to the ball and running with the ball. Ideally they’d also be comfortable on both sides of the field and could easily interchange. Hazard and Pedro have a lot of liberty to move all over the field in the attacking third to find the space they need to be effective in Chelsea’s set up. They also typically play off one another(when one checks to the ball the other makes a forward run) to create space. Rapinoe in her prime with a bit more pace would be the type of player I’d look for.

      • Steglitz49

        Alex Morgan plays on the wing for Lyon. I would, however, leave her in Lyon and see what happens. It is a risk worth taking.

        Else, please see my comment to Mockmook.

    • Steglitz49

      If I were JE I would take a risk and not call up Alex Morgan. I would also leave HAO in London.

      I would get rid of Kriegs, Brunn and Long.

    • Tom F

      I admire that we finally got rid of the horror that is Horan & the NOT so wiz kid, Pugh, but bring Ohai on top along with Williams and a few other Flash players in there. after all , they are the CHAMPS!

      and also, Bayern Munich coach, Thomas Worle, wants his configuration back! His been named ‘world’s dullest coach'(I think he likes his title!)

      • Guest

        What is wrong with Pugh? Just because she hasn’t played for the full WNT since Olympics doesn’t mean she suddenly lost form? She was probably 1 of the 2 or 3 only bright spots at OG

        • DNG

          Pugh was good not great last year in my opinion. Olympics really were not that bad other than having an off day against Sweden. Solo’s shocker against Colombia didn’t really matter that much and Ellis rotated that match.

      • DNG

        I like Horan. Maybe not as a central midfielder but I think she can play and be effective farther forward. She scored 6 goals last year including the one in the playoff match. If she can improve and start playing a little faster, I don’t think her foot speed will be much of an issue. She can use her strength to protect the ball and is a good distributer.

    • I don’t hate this.. And I’d much rather we tried Krieger at CB than Long.

  • Cc W

    Did anyone read the article on Carli? She’s stepping away from being a player rep to focus on soccer. Brunn, Christen and Kling are now the reps. I find it interesting that the 2 biggest stars on the team have now decided to leave it to someone else. Seems to me that once they all saw Hope fired, they all have decided to get something and dump their equal pay for equal pay.

    • mockmook

      Almost like their crusade for Equality was just a cynical cover for trying to get a raise…

      • Som Termanni

        I read that as “their crusade for Equalizer” and laughed, as if anyone outside of our little personal hell in these comments cared about the EQ.

        • Steglitz49

          The EQ used to be the premier source of news about WoSo.

          Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end …

    • Katie Curtiss

      Alex Morgan is still helping out to advocate, she just so happens that she will be doing a majority of that from France but she is still in on it

  • Katie Curtiss

    sounds to me like Ellis might want to start grooming Casey Murphy

    • mockmook
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  • Som Termanni

    Final CONCACAF awards announced an hour ago:

    – Female Player of the Year: Alex Morgan
    – Female GK of the Year: Ashlyn Harris
    – Female Coach of the Year: Amelia Valverde (Costa Rica)
    – Outstanding Performance Award: John Herdman
    – Best XI:

    GK: Ashlyn Harris
    D: Ali Krieger, Kadeisha Buchanan, Becky Sauerbrunn, Ashley Lawrence
    MF: Gloriana Villalobos, Carli Lloyd, Shirley Cruz, Tobin Heath
    F: Alex Morgan, Christine Sinclair

    • Steglitz49

      Ada Hegerberg was voted UEFA player of the year and in this January she became the first woman in 20 years to win Norway’s Gold Ball award for the country’s best footballer either sex.

      Alex is a smart one going to Lyon to team up with Ada. Ada’s sister, Andrine, plays for Birmingham City for what it is worth.

    • HOFCToDi

      Always Alex, Never Christen!

  • Som Termanni

    Undrafted UNC keeper Lindsey Harris opts out of the NWSL, goes to Iceland: http://fh.is/2017/01/lindsey-harris-gengur-til-lids-vid-fh/

    • Steglitz49

      Smart Lady.

      Have you seen the size of the Icelandic Cup? Big enough to fit a whale ino.o

  • Som Termanni