Monday Roundup: Alex Morgan confirms strike still possibility

The Equalizer Staff January 16, 2017 178

Also in this roundup, Kyah Simon departs Boston and Tasha Kai undergoes ankle surgery

Alex Morgan confirmed to reporters that a strike is still a possibility for the USWNT. (Photo Copyright Patricia Giobetti for The Equalizer)

Alex Morgan confirmed to reporters that a strike is still a possibility for the USWNT. (Photo Copyright Patricia Giobetti for The Equalizer)

In an interview with Donald McRae for The Guardian, Alex Morgan has confirmed that a strike by USWNT players is still very much a possibility.

“Our CBA ended last month, so right now we’re locked with the status quo. Neither U.S. Soccer nor us have submitted anything that says they’ll lock us out or that we will strike. We’re hoping to reach agreement—but there eventually needs to be pressure from one side to meeting in the middle,” she said.

The preexisting CBA expired on December 31, and just days prior, the USWNT Player’s Association announced they had parted ways with lawyer Rich Nichols. Now it appears that several of the key players involved in the fight for equal pay are no longer part of the negotiations, as Hope Solo’s contract with U.S. Soccer was terminated last summer and Carli Lloyd has reportedly “stepped back” from the ongoing CBA talks. Morgan, who said in the interview that she’s just as committed to the CBA negotiations as before despite her recent signing with Olympique Lyonnais, is also somewhat removed from the negotiations, even if only physically. Those changes may indicate setbacks for the team and the negotiations, and Morgan said drastic action may be necessary to speed things up.

{MORE: Morgan notches two assists in OL debut | Dunn discusses Chelsea, future }

Although the USWNT does not have a major tournament to use as leverage the way they did with the Olympics in 2016, Morgan says the impending SheBelieves Cup will hopefully serve as motivation for both sides to come to an agreement.

“We have an important tournament coming up. The SheBelieves Cup brings France, England and Germany to the U.S. Before we play those matches, we want to get a deal done so we can move on.”

As previously reported, either side would have to submit notice of a work stoppage with at least 60 days’ notice. That means that regardless of CBA negotiations, the SheBelieves Cup should not be affected by any strike. However, if negotiations are not met before that tournament and the team does decide to strike, that could affect not only any USWNT matches already scheduled for later in the year, but also the upcoming NWSL season.

Kyah Simon departs Boston ahead of 2017 season

Kyah Simon announced today she will not return to play with the Boston Breakers in 2017. (Photo Copyright Meg Linehan for The Equalizer)

The Boston Breakers announced today that Kyah Simon will not return to play with the club in 2017. (Photo Copyright Meg Linehan for The Equalizer)

Boston Breakers announced today that Australian-international Kyah Simon would not be returning to Boston or the NWSL in 2017. The forward, currently on loan with Sydney FC in the Australian W-League, cited person reasons in her decision to leave her NWSL club.

“I love the city, the club, my teammates and most importantly the fans, but for me I need to put my personal needs first and make 2017 a year to freshen up here in Australia, to get my mind and body back to 100 percent health and fitness, and be ready for the next season,” she said in a statement released by the Breakers.

Simon first joined the Breakers back in 2012 when she played in WPSL Elite, leading the team with 12 goals. Simon then played for Boston over three NWSL seasons—she missed the 2014 season after tearing her ACL—starting in 32 of 41 appearances for the team, during which she scored six goals and recorded four assists.

Despite Simon’s departure from the NWSL, Boston retains her rights for 2017.

{MORE: 2017 NWSL Draft Review | Kendall Fletcher to leave Reign }

Tasha Kai undergoes second off-season ankle surgery

Tasha Kai of Sky Blue FC has undergone her second ankle surgery of the off-season. Pictures posted on the Hawaii native’s Instagram account indicate the right-ankle surgery was done on or around January 9.

Kai also underwent ankle surgery, this time to her left ankle, on the first day of Sky Blue FC’s 2016 off-season back in September. That surgery was to clean up her ankle from the effects of multiple “nagging” injuries sustained throughout the season. Two hashtags Kai used in Instagram posts about that surgery, #longroadtorecovery and #decemberwillbemysecondsurgery, indicate that this month’s surgery was both planned and likely for the same reason, just on the other ankle.

Although Kai did not sustain any serious injuries throughout the season, she was involved in a number of collisions and hard tackles that left her down on the field for short periods of time. After being subbed off during Sky Blue’s May 29 road match against the Chicago Red Stars, Kai posted pictures to her social media account wearing a walking boot on her right leg.

Despite the number of times Kai seemed to go down with an injury, she played in all 20 matches for Sky Blue.

  • Reality

    Jonathan Tannenwald just released an interview with Lloyd…

    https://twitter.com/thegoalkeeper/status/820801154858778624

    …a few interesting tidbits…

    “Lloyd and other sources told me that because of the uncertain labor landscape at the end of 2016, no games were scheduled to culminate the January camp.

    That means the U.S. won’t have played a game between November 13 and March 1, when they face Germany at Talen Energy Stadium.”

    As regards the new bargaining leadership group…

    “As the new association came together, players were asked if they wanted to be official representatives. Becky Sauerbrunn, Christen Press and Meghan Klingenberg said yes, and the team voted to approve their positions.”

    “The players we have in place will get us a fair deal, and I’m just kind of focusing on just playing soccer at the moment,” she said. “They are doing diligent work on everything and enjoying it. And by my not being on the committee, [fans] shouldn’t question my commitment or dedication.”

    Full article here…

    http://www.philly.com/philly/b

    • guest

      Not sure what to make of this. Pinoe is on her way out of the team IMO and is only called up at this point due to contractual obligations. Lloyd possibly saw what happened to her BFF Solo and backed off. Thus the three strongest personalities are removed from the negotiation. Their timing was off by at least a few years. Not sure what is going on with Morgan but the firing of Solo’s lawyer leads me to believe they aren’t interested in playing hardball anymore and just want a raise.

      • Reality

        Don’t forget the poor NWSL. Dunn is gone for 18 months, Morgan has the option to extend with Lyon, Lloyd might bolt to Liverpool plus who knows what else.

        • Guest

          I believe Lloyd recently confirmed that she is playing for Houston this season.

          • mockmook

            Great news for Houston if true. Maybe 🙂

          • guest

            Agreed. She has to be somewhat of a ratings draw for these struggling teams… hope she sticks with it another year. I don’t really get why she doesn’t play for Sky Blue since she lives with her husband in Jersey, where he works. And Galanis is there which is probably her biggest priority.

          • annie

            Doesn’t SBFC play at Rutgers? Her Royal Highness doesn’t want to play pro ball on her craptastic college field in front of the smallest crowd in the league. Even JJ isn’t apparently looking for a trade there despite also living in the area full time with Ertz.

          • mockmook

            The field is actually pretty nice.

          • Steglitz49

            It is a natural grass field with no grid-iron lines, and the stands hold about 5,000. Natural grass! Remember the argie-bargy in Canada in 2015?

            As Mocmook notes, it is a nice field to play WoSo on.

          • Reality

            We’ll see…

            “I have not gotten big offers from overseas clubs,” Lloyd said. “I think anything is possible from now until I retire. I would go somewhere if it was the right city, and the quality of soccer was there. It would have to be the absolute right fit – I’d be leaving my great training environment with James [Galanis], I’d be leaving my husband. So it would have to be the perfect fit for me. I don’t want to just go somewhere where the soccer is not great. So, yeah, it’s a possibility.”

          • guest

            basically….i want a six figure salary as the best player in the world and i will only play for a champions league trophy contender.

          • Reality

            A constant state of entitlement.

      • guest

        The bulldogs (Solo, Pinoe, Lloyd) have been neutered. Lloyd is now kissing Ellis butt to stay on the roster. Solo and Pinoe are probably history.

        • Reality

          Who’s kissing who’s butt?

          • guest

            Lloyd is absolutely kissing USSoccer’s butt at this point. Listen to how she speaks of Jill. They don’t need her or any individual player and have made that statement by firing Solo and benching Morgan. Pinoe didn’t even dress for the last friendlies… not sure what to make of that, but the writing is on the wall.

          • Reality

            If only that were true…Ellis made Lloyd a Captain and she just amazingly won her second POY in a row. She has been letting Lloyd pretty much do what she wants on the field and has been playing her as a starter for 90″ in every game. They obviously have a mutual admiration society. I have made my opinion about this well known as to how this hurts the NT and what should be done about it. I hope there is some writing on a wall somewhere but it must be in invisible ink.

        • guest

          we can only hope the uswnt get’s rid of those two over the hill drama queens who think they own the uswnt.

          • guest

            can you be called a leader if you have no followers?

          • guest

            no, that means you are a distraction and are irrelevant. and that means you are disposable.

        • guest

          no doubt carli lloyd is keeping her mouth shut now. she knows one wrong word and she will be joining hope solo on the sofa at home. and no more greatest soccer player of all-time title talk. which is all she really cares about.

      • Lorehead

        The only contractual obligation to call any player up was in the 2015 victory tour (although they were contractually obligated to pay her last year).

    • Gary Diver

      Thanks for sharing this. It is interesting to compare Lloyd’s thoughts with those of Morgan.

      I am a bit surprised about Meghan Klingenberg. I do not see her on WC19 roster, so I will be very surprised if she survives with USWNT the next two years.

      • Reality

        I do wonder what the general feeling is among the players as regards the CBA negotiations. Their former lawyer did them a disservice with his tactics. Are they feeling good about their chances at this point or is it every woman for themselves?

        • Guest

          I think there might be a split in idealogy – these new reps willing to take a more reasonable stance that the rest of the young team supports versus players like Lloyd and Morgan who are sitting pretty moneywise and more willing to play hardball. I think Pinoe and Solo were the ringleaders in the equal pay fight, but are both in USSoccer’s dog house (or fired) and essentially toothless at this point.

          • Reality

            There is indeed a changing of the guard going on both on the pitch and in the leadership.

      • guest

        Yeah surprising to me as well since Ellis seems to be trying to replace Kling.

        • Paul Klee

          More surprised by Press, I recall an interview with her speaking in a bemused way about the inordinate amount of time the players spend in meetings talking about contracts. But it kind of makes sense in that Press will be in Chicago (USSOCCER headquarters) for much of the potential negotiations. Kling as a rep makes sense too, as it seems like half the NT plays for Portland. And we’ll Broon is Broon. And all three of them come off well spoken in front of the camera.

          • HOFCToDi

            None of whom have a degree in contract law.

          • Reality

            Press has been outspoken about these issues in the public forum and is articulate and intelligent about her point of view…

            “But Press doesn’t want “equal pay for equal work.” She doesn’t want to make what the men make.

            No, she just wants what’s fair based on what she and her teammates – teammates like Hope Solo, USWNT co-captains Lloyd and Becky Sauerbrunn, fellow forward Alex Morgan and midfielder Megan Rapinoe, the group that filed the wage discrimination suit – have managed to accomplish for the sport of soccer, not just in terms of tv deals and viewership – though they’ve been very successful there – but in terms of overall growth.

            In terms of the next generation of little girls and boys who watch the USWNT win and think, “I want to do that too,” eschewing opportunities on the football field or with a lacrosse stick to instead tackle the pitch and continue the steady growth soccer has enjoyed in the states in recent years.

            “At the end of the day, my perspective is less about, ‘we should have what the men have.’ And it’s just about being treated fairly and being paid fairly,” Press said, adding that “it’s not the same games, it’s not the same tournaments, it’s not the same bonuses coming from FIFA – it’s a different game and so the pay should reflect what we’re doing.”

            http://theoutsidegame.com/2016/06/09/christen-press-and-the-uswnt-living-the-dream-but-is-the-dream-enough/

          • Steglitz49

            The article is from before the Bomb in Brasilia and the crossbar in the SF.

            I also do not understand your last paragraph at all.

            I thought a major bone of contention is that USSF wants to break open the “club” that is the USWNT and make it easier for the head coach to call up aspirant players. How can that not be a good thing?

            Also, the pay should reflect all levels of the ladies game, from the NWSL to the USWNT. How that is graded fairly is an interesting question.

          • mockmook

            “it’s a different game ”

            Huh, and to think some people criticized me for saying WoSo and BroSo are different games.

          • Steglitz49

            To Reality there is one type of soccer — the one with his favorite player playing — and all other types of soccer, nay sports, when his favorite player is not playing.

          • CED

            The writer recycled the same silly arguments the WNT has made for a year. The only intelligence came from Press’ comments.

          • Reality

            It will be interesting to see what formula is eventually agreed upon to define what constitutes “fair pay” for the USWNT. I particularly would like to know how that will affect “fair pay” for the NWSL.

      • Bruce

        Brunn is no sure thing…

    • Gary Diver

      No warm-up matches before SBC? Jill Ellis will be leading with her chin.

      • Reality

        Seems rather foolish doesn’t it?

        • mockmook

          Would have been even more foolish to schedule some Friendlies that were cancelled by a strike/lock-out

          • Reality

            What was truly foolish was not getting this settled before the expiration.

          • Steglitz49

            The players have no leverage. The USSF hold the trump and most of the other face cards too. They have till beginning of 2019 to sort it out.

        • Bruce

          Imagine what happens if they drop all three matches at SBC.

          • Reality

            If they apply the Sermanni rule, Ellis will be gone.

          • mockmook

            I’m afraid the Sermanni rule only applies to people “not in the club”

            If they lost and looked terrible while losing, even Jill’s club membership could expire.

            But, I expect them to perform just fine.

          • Gary Diver

            Why do you expect them to perform just fine? We will know in less than 7 weeks, but a lot will depend on how much prep the various teams will have going into the tournament.

          • mockmook

            “Why do you expect them to perform just fine?”

            1) I’m sure they will get some training before the match to get back into gear.

            2) They are really really good players

            3) They will be really really motivated to look good against these other top teams

            4) They will have a number of newbies on the squad giving fresh energy and who are really really motivated to earn a permanent role

          • Steglitz49

            TS could never be “in the club” and JE is a bit too old.

          • Reality

            Perhaps there is an “Ellis” rule which is only for Certified members of the “Club”.

          • guest

            give me a break. When was the last time USA lost to France, Germany or England? Or Canada for that matter? Sweden is the only team that has always given them a problem over the past few years… the Sundhage effect.

          • Steglitz49

            In 2011 Dennerby was Sweden’s head coach when Sweden defeated the US 2-1 in WC-11but luckily for the US it was in the group game.

          • guest

            when the uswnt ties colombia in the big tournament olympics i guess anything is possible.

          • guest

            just have mittag and popp double team Allie Long.

          • guest

            When was the last time the US played in France? And yes, they lost there

      • HOFCToDi

        BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

        The U-23 USWNT failed to qualify for the 2012 London Olympics. Jurgen Klinsmann was not fired. The U-23 USWNT failed to qualify for the 2016 Rio Olympics. Jurgen Klinsmann was not fired.

        • guest

          this has to be unacceptable for the ussf going forward. at the very least the usmnt should be bringing all the top -23 players to the qualifers which they did not do last time with pulisic, morris and others. unacceptable.

      • Socrates

        Come on. The SBC will be a walk in the park for the USWNT. They have all advantages on their side. They will win easily and will use this again to negotiate. They don’t need warm up matches. And I guess they will have inofficial matches anyhow.

        Against whom do they play?

        Germany and France will be in an important phase of their leagues by then. They will have no preparation for the SBC cup.

        There will be important league matches on Sunday Feb 26 for them. Afterwards the German team needs to travel, needs to adapt time difference and will play in front of US fans already 3 days later against the US. Either players are exhausted from the league and travel or will get a rest. There will be no warm up match for them. No preparation.

        Since the leagues in France and Germany continue directly afterwards and key CL leagues games follow end of March I foresee that important players will not even travel. Club trainers will insist that key players who travel will get enough rest and will not get injured.

        I really think it is crazy for Germany and France to do the SBC cup.

        For them it will be rather team building and can’t be really competitive.

        What will be the result

        The US will easily win again. Everybody will think again they are the greatest of all time and the players will use it again to let the public know that they deserve much better.

        And we and them will still not know how good they really are since they avoid real competition -as world’s no 1 you should be able to travel to Europe or Japan and win there –

        I fear we have to wait till 2019 to see where we really are. Unless we organize something more competitive with more even conditions and chances

        • mockmook

          If last year is a guide, no one will even know that the SBC is going on.

          • Steglitz49

            I presume they run double-headers again so as to avoid embarassment that only 100 people will show up to watch the matches when the US are not playing.

          • guest

            The only reason SBC even exists is because the AC couldn’t draw an average of more than 200 fans to ANY match no matter what team was playing.

          • Steglitz49

            The Algarve Cup was never meant to draw crowds. It was an event that grew out os the Swedish WNT winter training camp.

            If it had not been for a British property developer, there would never have been an Algarve Cup. This in spite of no British team in the first Algarve Cup.

  • HOFCToDi

    …….. best team in the world ……….

    US Women’s Basketball
    US Women’s Gymnastics
    US Women’s Swimming

    Meanwhile, calendar year 2016 was a banner year for US Soccer:

    U-17 USWNT
    U-20 USWNT
    Senior USWNT

    Heck, the U-23 USMNT did not even qualify for the 2016 Rio Olympics.

    • guest

      too bad no one cares about those sports other than once every four years.

      • HOFCToDi

        Cable Sports TV Ratings for Sunday, 5 June 2016

        sportstvratings.com/nascar-sprint-cup-pocono-giants-cardinals-mexico-uruguay-lead-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-sunday-june-5-2016/5173/

        Check out the 1:00 PM time slot, USA Soccer Women versus College Softball World Series.

      • HOFCToDi

        The WNBA is more popular than the NWSL in Chicago.

        Calendar Year 2016
        Average Home Attendance
        Chicago Sky – 7,009
        Chicago Red Stars – 3,060

        • lhgiyg

          Elena Delle Donne is BBall’s answer to Alex Morgan……. what are the average ratings for womens basketball? Nothing that compares to the yearlong friendlies that the USWNT plays.

          • HOFCToDi

            Two women’s professional soccer leagues have filed for bankruptcy within the last twenty years. Meanwhile, the WNBA recently concluded its 20th season.

          • guest

            Isn’t the WNBA subsidized by the enormously wealthy NBA? Not even close to a legitimate comparison.

          • HOFCToDi

            Wasn’t MLS subsidized by the enormously wealthy NFL?

            sports.cbslocal.com/2016/04/12/lamar-hunt-saved-mls-from-folding-in-2001/

            Not even close to a legitimate comparison.

          • guest

            it it rumored the mls offered to partner with the wusa. but the women preferred to go it alone. we know how that turned out.

          • Steglitz49

            The brothers have been generous over the years.

          • HOFCToDi

            The members of the USWNTPA tarnished the image of the USWNT in calendar year 2016:

            Home Matches (Sep, Oct, Nov)
            Sports TV Ratings (FS1, ESPN2)
            USWNT – 1,184,000 viewers (6 matches)

            Sports TV Ratings for Sunday, 13 November 2016

            sportstvratings.com/nfl-countdown-nfl-insiders-sportscenter-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-sunday-november-13-2016/6840/

            USWNT, FS1 – 145,000 viewers

            Sports TV Ratings for Thursday, 10 November 2016

            sportstvratings.com/browns-ravens-bulls-heat-north-carolina-duke-football-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-thursday-november-10-2016/6819/

            USWNT, ESPN2 – 212,000 viewers

            Sports TV Ratings for Sunday, 23 October 2016

            sportstvratings.com/giants-rams-in-london-nascar-sprint-cup-talladega-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-sunday-october-23-2016/6565/

            USWNT, FS1 – 149,000 viewers

            Sports TV Ratings for Wednesday, 19 October 2016

            sportstvratings.com/cubs-dodgers-indians-blue-jays-warriors-preseason-game-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-wednesday-october-19-2016/6508/

            USWNT, ESPN2 – 169,000 viewers

            Sports TV Ratings for Sunday, 18 September 2016

            sportstvratings.com/nascar-sprint-cup-chicagoland-nfl-countdown-yankees-red-sox-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-sunday-september-18-2016/5871/

            USWNT, FS1 – 243,000 viewers

            Sports TV Ratings for Thursday, 15 September 2016

            sportstvratings.com/jets-bills-houston-cincinnati-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-thursday-september-15-2016/5843/

            USWNT, ESPN2 – 266,000 viewers

          • CED

            Not really true

          • Som Termanni

            Per Sports Business Journal, WNBA TV ratings were down 14 percent in 2015 to an average of 202k viewers, but online viewing increased dramatically (26 percent, no numbers provided) thanks to a $6 streaming season-pass option.

            In 2016 per the WNBA, TV ratings rebounded by 11% in 2016 to 224k, including some 500k+ matches in the season opener and finals. Digital was up again, this time by 50% on all video and 24% on the streaming pass, but again no numbers released.

            League attendance was down in 2015 by 3.2%, largely due to venue issues in San Antonio that halved its attendance, then up 4.6% in 2016 to 7,655, whicih was the best attendance since 2011.

          • HOFCToDi

            Home Matches (Sep, Oct, Nov)
            Sports TV Ratings (FS1, ESPN2)
            USWNT – 1,184,000 viewers (6 matches)

            Average – 197,333 viewers per match

          • HOFCToDi

            The US Women’s National Basketball Team does not need to be a traveling circus to be successful.

          • Guest

            Why would that homophobic troll upvote this? Elena Delle Donne is a lesbian and married to a woman.

          • Steglitz49

            Hedvig Lindahl is married to a woman and has had a baby. Lisa Dahlkvist the same though in her case it was her partner who gave birth. Anja Pärson too.

            Married lesbians with kids are not that unusual.

  • Gary Diver

    Does anybody expect Tasha Kai to play for Sky Blue next year? She has personality, but Father Time may be catching up with her.

    • mockmook

      I expect her to play this year — but, probably used around 50% of the time

  • guest

    the uswnt players will get get equal pay when they have equal revenue and when they allow equal opportunity on the team.

    • USMNTfan4life

      That is the the best explanation on these threads in a long time. Well Done, Guest!

  • guest

    smart move by the uswnt players dropping alex morgan from the negotiating team and starting christen press.

    • uklel

      she’s a much cleaner finisher when it comes to legal arguments

    • guest

      the peaceful transfer of power has begun. we have a new queen.

  • wosofan

    Strike while the iron is….. ice cold

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  • guest

    if the uswnt players wanna strike then just do it and stop talking about it already. it’s been over a year nonstop. every single one of them is replacable.

  • HOFCToDi

    Calendar Year 2016
    Senior USWNT
    CONCACAF Women’s Olympic Qualifying
    Average Attendance – 9,303 (5 matches)

    Calendar Year 2015
    Senior USMNT
    CONCACAF Gold Cup
    Average Attendance – 34,775 (6 matches)

    • Steglitz49

      Vow!

  • HOFCToDi

    Calendar Year 2016
    Senior USWNT
    SheBelieves Cup
    Average Attendance – 17,297 (3 matches)

    Calendar Year 2016
    Senior USMNT
    Copa America Centenario
    Average Attendance – 50,891 (6 matches)

    • Steglitz49

      Unfair comparisons. One is a bunch of friendlies; the other one a sort-of real tournament.

  • HOFCToDi

    Home Matches (Sep, Oct, Nov)
    Sports TV Ratings (FS1, ESPN2)
    USWNT – 1,184,000 viewers (6 matches)
    USMNT – 2,366,000 viewers (3 matches)

    Sports TV Ratings for Sunday, 13 November 2016

    sportstvratings.com/nfl-countdown-nfl-insiders-sportscenter-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-sunday-november-13-2016/6840/

    USWNT, FS1 – 145,000 viewers

    Sports TV Ratings for Thursday, 10 November 2016

    sportstvratings.com/browns-ravens-bulls-heat-north-carolina-duke-football-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-thursday-november-10-2016/6819/

    USWNT, ESPN2 – 212,000 viewers

    Sports TV Ratings for Sunday, 23 October 2016

    sportstvratings.com/giants-rams-in-london-nascar-sprint-cup-talladega-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-sunday-october-23-2016/6565/

    USWNT, FS1 – 149,000 viewers

    Sports TV Ratings for Wednesday, 19 October 2016

    sportstvratings.com/cubs-dodgers-indians-blue-jays-warriors-preseason-game-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-wednesday-october-19-2016/6508/

    USWNT, ESPN2 – 169,000 viewers

    Sports TV Ratings for Sunday, 18 September 2016

    sportstvratings.com/nascar-sprint-cup-chicagoland-nfl-countdown-yankees-red-sox-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-sunday-september-18-2016/5871/

    USWNT, FS1 – 243,000 viewers

    Sports TV Ratings for Thursday, 15 September 2016

    sportstvratings.com/jets-bills-houston-cincinnati-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-thursday-september-15-2016/5843/

    USWNT, ESPN2 – 266,000 viewers

  • ROFLMAO!

    Alex Morgan has proven herself to be an international fraud in 2016 and has been BENCHED recently. Carli Lloyd will retire within a year. The future attack will be built around:

    Press, Christen (marquee forward)
    Heath, Tobin
    Williams, Lynn
    Dunn, Crystal
    Pugh, Mallory

    • Guest

      Heath and Press diddling each other has further screwed morgan (lol, no pun intended). Their chemistry (lol, no pun intended) will pay off and is paying off right now… they are assisting each other like crazy.

      • Steglitz49

        Please withdraw your comment. It is intentionally unpleasant and in poor tatet.

      • Bruce

        Cowardly remark. Remove.

        • Steglitz49

          It is fascinating. Only you and I have brought this bottomfeeder to book.

          Where are StegWatch, StegWorld, StegPatrol and all those other vigilantes when two young ladies need their help?

          By their fruit ye shall know them!

        • guest

          How is that cowardly? Get a clue. Press and Heath are in a relationship and making each other better on the field through training together. The chemistry Heath had with Morgan is clearly now being had with Press – they find each other on the pitch

          • Steglitz49

            Are you dumb on purpose or just dumb?

          • Stegpitz49

            As if you, of all people, have the right to call anyone dumb

          • Steglitz49

            I don’t see you defending their honor unlike Bruce and I.

            If you can’t be bothered to fight for the ladies, do us a favor and crawl back under whatever slimy rock you were lurking beneath.

          • Bruce

            Using the word “diddling” under an anonymous account is the definition of cowardly. Own what you say and do, guest. Otherwise you are just another anonymous troll.

    • HOFCToDi

      Sunday, 21 Feb 2016
      TSG announces CWOQ Best XI, Awards
      ussoccer.com/v~13.17/~/media/images/wnt/gallery-images/2016/02/160221-wnt-v-can/photo-gallery/160221-wnt-vs-can-photo-gallery19.jpg?h=600&w=786&la=en&hash=BF5ABEEA5BE7034EF13FA4F320F9E7BB8E549331&yocs=6_&yoloc=us

      concacaf.com/article/tsg-announces-cwoq-best-xi-awards

      By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

      Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

      4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
      78 caps
      2 head coaches

      Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

      garbage time
      prima donna
      selfish shot hog
      tomato cans

    • HOFCToDi

      Friday, 11 Mar 2016
      Morgan, Solo and the USA Sweep Awards at 2016 SBC
      ussoccer.com/v~13.17/~/media/images/wnt/gallery-images/2016/03/160309-wnt-v-ger/160309-wnt-vs-ger-gallery20.jpg?h=559&w=800&la=en&hash=B1A7B6E0C01C796F4C31CF422F0CC370A4D5CF89&yocs=6_&yoloc=us

      ussoccer.com/stories/2016/03/11/13/17/160311-wnt-morgan-solo-and-the-usa-sweep-awards-at-2016-shebelieves-cup

      By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

      Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

      4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
      78 caps
      2 head coaches

      Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

      garbage time
      prima donna
      selfish shot hog
      tomato cans

    • HOFCToDi

      Christen Press
      2016 Summer Olympic Games
      Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 6, Shots on Goal 1
      Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

      Christen Press
      2016 Rio Olympics
      12 Aug 2016
      USA 1 SWE 1
      Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 2, Shots on Goal 0
      Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

      rio2016.com/en/football-womens-quarterfinal-fb-3

      Christen Press
      2016 Rio Olympics
      09 Aug 2016
      USA 2 COL 2
      Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 4, Shots on Goal 1
      Penalty Kicks Attempted 0, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

      rio2016.com/en/football-womens-first-round-group-g-fb-5

      Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

      4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
      78 caps
      2 head coaches

      Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

      garbage time
      prima donna
      selfish shot hog
      tomato cans

    • HOFCToDi

      Calendar Year 2016
      FIFA Top 10 Ranked Opponents
      USWNT Goals Scored
      Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 6
      Horan (DOB 26 May 1994) – 2
      Dunn (DOB 03 Jul 1992) – 1
      Heath (DOB 29 May 1988) – 1
      Johnston (DOB 06 Apr 1992) – 1
      Lloyd (DOB 16 Jul 1982) – 1
      Mewis (DOB 09 Oct 1992) – 1

      By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

      ussoccer.com/womens-national-team/lineups

      Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

      4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
      78 caps
      2 head coaches

      Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

      garbage time
      prima donna
      selfish shot hog
      tomato cans

    • HOFCToDi

      Christen Press
      Summer Olympic Games
      Goals – 0, Assists – 0

      Christen Press
      SheBelieves Cup
      Goals – 0, Assists – 0

      Christen Press
      CONCACAF Women’s Olympic Qualifying
      Knockout Stage
      Goals – 0, Assists – 0

      Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

      4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
      78 caps
      2 head coaches

      Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

      garbage time
      prima donna
      selfish shot hog
      tomato cans

    • HOFCToDi

      Calendar Year 2016
      FIFA Top 12 Ranked Opponents
      USWNT Goals Scored
      Press – 0

      Calendar Year 2016
      FIFA Top 12 Ranked Opponents
      USWNT Assists Provided
      Press – 0

      Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

      4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
      78 caps
      2 head coaches

      Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

      garbage time
      prima donna
      selfish shot hog
      tomato cans

    • HOFCToDi

      USWNT Career
      FIFA Top 10 Ranked Opponents
      USWNT Goals Scored
      Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 34
      Leroux (DOB 07 May 1990) – 8
      Press (DOB 29 Dec 1988) – 3

      Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

      4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
      78 caps
      2 head coaches

      Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

      garbage time
      prima donna
      selfish shot hog
      tomato cans

    • HOFCToDi

      Summer Olympic Games
      Games Started
      Leroux (DOB 07 May 1990) – 0
      Press (DOB 29 Dec 1988) – 1

      Summer Olympic Games
      Minutes Played
      Leroux (DOB 07 May 1990) – 77
      Press (DOB 29 Dec 1988) – 123

      Summer Olympic Games
      Goals Scored
      Leroux (DOB 07 May 1990) – 1
      Press (DOB 29 Dec 1988) – 0

      Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

      4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
      78 caps
      2 head coaches

      Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

      garbage time
      prima donna
      selfish shot hog
      tomato cans

    • Steglitz49

      I can only presume you made this comment on purpose to goad HOFCToDi. Seems a bit pointless.

      • FawcettFan14

        It worked…

  • HOFCToDi

    Calendar Year 2016
    Senior USWNT
    Total Home Matches – 21
    Total Home Attendance – 335,433
    Average Home Attendance – 15,973

    Calendar Year 2016
    Senior USMNT
    Total Home Matches – 14
    Total Home Attendance – 415,903
    Average Home Attendance – 29,707

    • Steglitz49

      That is a fascinating observation. Is there a simple explanation? Like against which teams they played? Before and after the Olympics? 2015 compared to 2016?

      • CED

        This has been stating before and proven by the number, opponents make virtually no difference to attendance for WNT. Fans are not discerning,tomato can games get higher attendance in most cases than top 10 opponents..

        • Steglitz49

          The fact that people only showed up for the Eng-Ger, Eng-Fra and Ger-Fra games in last year’s SB Cup because they were double-headers with the USWNT’s matches proves your point.

          • Gary Diver

            Correction. I was at all three SBC double-headers last year. The first and third matches had the USWNT matches after the “other match”. Only a few thousand fans came early to watch the France-Germany and France-England matches. On the other hand, a large number of fans stayed after the USWNT-France match on Sunday afternoon at Nashville to watch England-Germany.

          • Steglitz49

            Fair enough. Any match between England and Germany should draw a crowd because of the historical overtones.

            When England’s ladies played Germany’s at Wembley in 2014 about 45,000 watched. At the request of the local transport, who were doing maintenance, only the two lower tiers had been sold and were sold out but the bad weather meant that not everyone turned up.

          • Rupert Murdoch

            This is just interesting from English perspective (mainly thanks to highy intellectual newspapers such as “The Sun” and “the Daily Mail”)
            .
            For Germans the main soccer opponent are the Netherlands.
            .
            You won’t get a spectecular crowd in Germany when the English ladies show up. I guess people in Germany would mainly love to see the USWNT

          • Steglitz49

            Please pick another moniker unless you are the real one.

            The match was in England. It was the first ladies international at Wembley.

            England lost badly but repaid the Germans in Canada in 2015.

            The match against the English ladies in Germany was, as you type, poorly attended (6,000?).

            As for the NL, I can see them seeing the Germans as their main opponents but I don’t follow why it should be or even is the other way round.

          • Rubert Murdoch

            You can’t follow since you just know the English perspective. Why should playing England be special or important for a German? There is no England hate in Germany. There are no newspapers in Germany trying to establish something negative against England.

            The rivalry with the Netherlands seems to be based on many important and intense matches in the last 50 years

            I know you can’t understand since you love war. But soccer has nothing to do with war. If so, don’t you think that there should be a big rivalry in soccer between France and Germany? But there isn’t

          • Steglitz49

            “Don’t mention the war”, was an episode in Fawlty Towers.

            The French have tippexed out 1938-1945 from the collective memory. They don’t want to remember a period of being collaborating, cheese-eating surrender-monkeys. They sat out the war on the sidelines.

            The NL is a different story. The Hungerwinter of 1944-45. The Allies managed to liberate Belgium before the winter set in but most of the NL was under the German yoke. The suffering of the NL was immense, like the siege of Leningrad.

            As for the Germans, they have made every reasonable effort to deal with this horrendous period of their history. In Berlin there are a number of monuments, the most recent being to the so-called Grey Busses. There were already monuments in other places, like Stuttgart, Cologne and Weissenau.

        • Gary Diver

          For some reason (maybe poor marketing), SBC attendances were disappointingly poor. Especially when you consider the tournament was touted as USWNT “playing the best in the world” and each match was a double-header for the same ticket price. Nashville’s Sunday attendance was o.k., but the other two matches had to be big disappointments for USSF.

          • Steglitz49

            People want to see their stars and preferably see them winning and goals galore.

            In spite of all the close matches against Sweden, I doubt that a match against Sweden would be a crowdpuller even in Minnesota.

          • Gary Diver

            If Ellis really wants to test her troops, she should have a tournament that includes Germany, Sweden, and Canada.

          • Steglitz49

            A bit unfair.

            Canada, yes. The Canadians will draw a crowd.
            Sweden? It depends …

          • Gary Diver

            I am just saying that a round-robin with USWNT, Germany, Sweden, and Canada would make a very competitive and very interesting tournament to watch. Whether people will come is another thing. WoSo obviously is not “Field of Dream” (i.e., “build a stadium and people will come”).

          • Steglitz49

            There are some signs in Europe that as more money is pumped into the WoSo teams and they can attract top talent, more people will go and watch them, at least for meaningful matches.

            One difference, though not the only one, between BroSo and WoSo is that quite a lot of spectators turn out for meaningless BroSo matches.

          • guest

            the uswnt fans don’t go to the games for the great competition. they go to take great facebook pictures.

      • guest

        What’s “fascinating” is that the USMNT drew HALF the numbers the WNT did to friendlies in 2016. HOFC likes to troll WNT with numbers, but is he aware that the 26M viewers for ’15 WC final was the largest audience ever for ANY soccer match on TV in the US?

        • HOFCToDi

          I can’t find 26M viewers in 2016.

          Home Matches (Sep, Oct, Nov)
          Sports TV Ratings (FS1, ESPN2)
          USWNT – 1,184,000 viewers (6 matches)
          USMNT – 2,366,000 viewers (3 matches)

          Sports TV Ratings for Sunday, 13 November 2016

          sportstvratings.com/nfl-countdown-nfl-insiders-sportscenter-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-sunday-november-13-2016/6840/

          USWNT, FS1 – 145,000 viewers

          Sports TV Ratings for Thursday, 10 November 2016

          sportstvratings.com/browns-ravens-bulls-heat-north-carolina-duke-football-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-thursday-november-10-2016/6819/

          USWNT, ESPN2 – 212,000 viewers

          Sports TV Ratings for Sunday, 23 October 2016

          sportstvratings.com/giants-rams-in-london-nascar-sprint-cup-talladega-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-sunday-october-23-2016/6565/

          USWNT, FS1 – 149,000 viewers

          Sports TV Ratings for Wednesday, 19 October 2016

          sportstvratings.com/cubs-dodgers-indians-blue-jays-warriors-preseason-game-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-wednesday-october-19-2016/6508/

          USWNT, ESPN2 – 169,000 viewers

          Sports TV Ratings for Sunday, 18 September 2016

          sportstvratings.com/nascar-sprint-cup-chicagoland-nfl-countdown-yankees-red-sox-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-sunday-september-18-2016/5871/

          USWNT, FS1 – 243,000 viewers

          Sports TV Ratings for Thursday, 15 September 2016

          sportstvratings.com/jets-bills-houston-cincinnati-top-cable-sports-tv-ratings-for-thursday-september-15-2016/5843/

          USWNT, ESPN2 – 266,000 viewers

          • guest

            FACT: The MNT drew half the WNT to friendlies in 2016.

          • HOFCToDi

            FACT.

            If it wasn’t for the Copa America Centenario, the USSF would be hemorrhaging in the red.

          • HOFCToDi

            FACT.

            The USWNT has only made a profit once in 30 plus years.

          • guest

            Since when are we discussing profit? You might want to ask for some Ritalin when you get those new glasses, because you seem to have trouble staying on topic.

          • HOFCToDi

            That’s because you can’t admit the truth:

            The USMNT carries the USWNT.

            Calendar Year 2016
            Senior USWNT
            SheBelieves Cup
            Average Attendance – 17,297 (3 matches)

            Calendar Year 2016
            Senior USMNT
            Copa America Centenario
            Average Attendance – 50,891 (6 matches)

            I can’t imagine the disparity in ticket prices.

          • USMNTfan4life

            IS this true? Where can I read that?

          • Steglitz49

            in 2015, not 2016

            Do you know how few watched live the Bomb in Brasilia aka Miracle on Grass in the US? Was it 1m, 3m or 5m?

        • HOFCToDi

          Wait! I just found 26 million viewers.

          sportstvratings.com/clemson-alabama-cfp-championship-overnight-rating-down-4-from-last-year/7270/

          • guest

            Relevancy?

          • HOFCToDi

            Show me the 26 million viewers in calendar year 2016.

          • guest

            “26M viewers for ’15 WC final”
            Maybe you need new glasses?

          • HOFCToDi

            An aberration. An outlier.

          • Steglitz49

            Vow!

        • Steglitz49

          The figure for the ladies WC-15 final being the biggest have been disputed. Totalators claim that if you amalgamate the English and Spanish language channels in the US, the WC-14 final between Ger and Arg drew a slightly larger audience than the final in WC-15 where the US was playing.

        • USMNTfan4life

          That is because it was a FINAL in a supportive time zone. When the men played Belgium in ’14 Round of 16, they attacted 18 million (English language) and 7 million (Spanish-language) for 25 million total. On a Monday!

          So, the comparison is not really fair, I would say.

  • Steglitz49

    The comment — “that means that regardless of CBA negotiations, the SheBelieves Cup should not be affected by any strike” — makes sense because those three teams are the only quality opposition that the USWNT has pencilled in for matches in the USA. Also, if the SB Cup was torpedoed by a strike, the chances of an SB Cup in 2018 would probably be low if not close to zero.

    Also, the USWNT players may not be keen on a tour of Europe acting as practice fodder for the teams playing in Euro-17. Having played Eng, Fra and Ger in the SB Cup, they may only get to play the second tier EU teams lsuch as for example Sweden, Norway, Scotland, NL, Portugal and Spain … . A lot of travel for little return.

  • Steglitz49

    Given the topic of spoilt brattes, I found this fascinating:
    http://www.futeboldaforca.com/
    This organization just got a prize at the Swedish sports gala yesterday. The young lady who started it is just 25 years old.

    Does anyone know of other organizations like Futebol da Forca? It can’t be the only one; maybe it is.

  • HOFCToDi

    Calendar Year 2015
    Post FIFA Women’s World Cup
    Average Attendance – 28,234

    Calendar Year 2016
    Post Summer Olympics
    Average Attendance – 16,773

    A classic case of reversion to the mean.

    • Steglitz49

      Only if the mean is about 22,000

    • Gary Diver

      It is amazing that USWNT could only draw 13,000 fans for SBC matches against England and Germany. As Steg has suggested, maybe USWNT fans don’t really want to see quality, competitive matches. What they want to see is USWNT beat up on tomato cans so their favorite stars can score a lot of goals.

      • Som Termanni

        This year’s attendance will probably be even worse than last years, and not just because of the differing circumstances.

        The venues are crap. The last time the WNT played at RFK, they drew 6,421. USMNT also had crap attendance last year at RFK, and the venue was bashed by fans then too, so naturally USSF forces another match there. The WNT’s last match at Talen was a sellout… at 17,275.

        The Red Bull Arena match is the only one likely to top 20k, and that’s because it can (unlike Talen) and it’ll be on a weekend (unlike RFK, which is on a Tuesday).

        • guest

          The Philly stadium is nice though, right?

          • Som Termanni

            It’s great for fans, but it can’t hold 18k, so it’s crap if USSF wants to drive up attendance figures. (And they probably don’t, since higher attendance would give the USWNT more to negotiate with.)

          • HOFCToDi

            Likely a lot cheaper to lease a soccer specific stadium than a NFL stadium, reference Raymond James Stadium last year.

          • Som Termanni

            The keyword is probably MLS stadium. Talen, Red Bull, and RFK are all MLS venues. More MLS-SUM-USSF collusion. That 32k crowd to the Superdome 13 months ago won’t happen during labor negotiations.

          • HOFCToDi

            Superdome, Abby’s last game. Extenuating circumstances.

          • HOFCToDi

            2016 Calendar Year
            Raymond James Stadium
            Attendance – 13,027

          • Steglitz49

            Maybe they are worried about getting 15k?

        • Steglitz49

          Why not play in Houston?

          • Som Termanni

            They draw squat in Houston. Biggest crowd ever in Houston was 15,643, and that was back in 2012. The US vs. Canada OG qualifier in February—the first rematch between those teams since the WWC match—drew 10,119 to BBVA, just a couple thousand more than the NWSL final and half as many as they drew in 2014 for a US-CAN friendly in Frisco. Two days prior they drew 5,561 to BBVA—less than the Dash often do in league play—vs. Trinidad & Tobago.

        • Arcie Tillydee

          I realize they don’t want long travel distances (or to play on turf), but I guarantee a sellout (21,144) here in Portland, should they ever play one of these Shiba Leaves games here.

          Just sayin’…

          • Steglitz49

            Given that the NWSL Championship Final drew 2,000 less than the average for a Portland game, there is no guarantee that the matches between Eng-Fra, Fra-Ger and Eng-Ger would be well attended. You would still need double headers, preferably with the non-US teams second so that any crowd stayed on.

      • HOFCToDi

        I just can’t wait to see the disparity in attendance between the SheBelieves Cup and the CONCACAF Gold Cup this year.

        • Gary Diver

          The mysteries of USWNT fans. It is hard to understand how USWNT can draw larger crowds to watch a match against Colombia than against Germany, the second-ranked team in the world.

          • Steglitz49

            Because they are not interested in soccer — at least quality soccer that might go against the US.

          • Gary Diver

            The evidence indicates you are correct in your assessment of the situation.

      • FlyingSquirrel42

        Well, it’s also an off-year after a subpar Olympics performance. What was the attendance at last year’s SBC compared to last year’s pre-Olympics tomato cans?

        • Steglitz49

          You’ve lost me so please tell us.

        • Gary Diver

          The three 2016 SBC matches drew 13,000, 26,000, and 13,000 fans.

          • Steglitz49

            By means 52/3=17,500 though by medians 13,000 (the same as the mode). What does it mean?

          • Gary Diver

            The 26,000 attendance in Nashville was on a nice Sunday afternoon, while the other two matches were on weekdays. Still, USSF must have done a terrible job marketing this “premiere tournament” – the attendance was embarrassingly poor. We will see in 6 weeks whether moving the tournament northward improves attendance.

          • Steglitz49

            Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow …

            Why on earth move it north? West, yes; north ?

      • Steglitz49

        Thank you. The proof in the real interest in WoSo will be revealed by how many watch Euro-17 on the small screen and, even, how many travel to the NL to be there on the spot, given how strong the dollar is.

        • Gary Diver

          Also, it will be interesting if people in North America will be able to watch the Euro17 matches live. The geo-blocking of Internet content has reached the ridiculous stage.

          • Steglitz49

            There are sites that allow you to access big sites in Europe. You can get the BBC and some French and German channels through those. We watched nearly all the OG-14 on French TV.

            That is why I still have that phrase ringing in my ears. When Charlotte Kalla caught up the German (Denise Hermann) and Finn skier (Krista Pärmäkoski) in the relay, the French commentator exclaimed — “Watch out little piglets because here comes the wolf with her big white teeth!” — and she swept past them to claim the gold, having made up a deficit of 26 seconds in 5km of skiing.

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  • Som Termanni

    Per SBS, who are doing some actual reporting on Kyah Simon’s exit, it’s because both of her shoulders are wrecked and have been partially or fully dislocated for years: http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/01/19/simon-staying-australia-fix-shoulder-problems

    > “Both my right and my left shoulder initially started sub-luxing (partially dislocating), but now it’s a complete dislocation. The most recent time was a few weeks ago against Canberra. It dislocated in that game and I just kept going.

    > “It gets put back in. It happened in the World Cup in 2011. A lot of people don’t know what’s going on when I’ve been hurt, but it’s my shoulder that pops out.”

    • Steglitz49

      Why problems with shoulders in soccer? It is soccer, not rugby or handball.