Alex Morgan in France, could ink deal with Lyon

Dan Lauletta December 3, 2016 343
Alex Morgan has been in France and could wind up chasing a Champions League title with Lyon (Photo Copyright Meg Linehan for The Equalizer)

Alex Morgan has been in France and could wind up chasing a Champions League title with Lyon (Photo Copyright Meg Linehan for The Equalizer)

Multiple media reports have placed Alex Morgan in Lyon, France this week admid speculation she could soon sign to play for the French power. French news outlet PiedsCarres was the first to report that Morgan was visiting with the club. Romanin Blland of Eurosport later reported that Morgan has met with Lyon’s medical staff, a step that seems unlikely unless the sides were discussing details on a contract.

Sources have confirmed to The Equalizer that Morgan playing at Lyon is a real possibility but also indicated the move would be in the short-term with a return to Orlando Pride following the conclusion of Lyon’s season. Eight matches into their domestic season, Lyon find themselves in familiar territory, locked in a battle with Paris Saint-Germain for the title. Neither has dropped a point and the top spot is likely to come down to their head-to-head matches December 17 in Paris and next May 14 in Lyon. The longest the season could go is June 1, the date of the Champions League final in Cardiff.

Morgan has long been linked with a move to Lyon, mostly due to the public wooing from owner Jean-Michel Aulas. Megan Rapinoe and Hope Solo are among prominent Americans who have played for Lyon, who have won the last 10 French League titles and are Champions League holders. Aulas suggested over the summer that more could be on the way.

Signing through the end of the current season would resemble a traditional loan arrangement, but Morgan’s contract status is murky in the face of the collective bargaining impasse between U.S. players and U.S. Soccer. Morgan plays for the Pride through a contract with U.S. Soccer, but with the current collective bargaining agreement set to expire with the end of the year, the status of players currently under contract with U.S. Soccer is uncertain. It is not clear whether Morgan must wait for that deal to expire before making anything official with Lyon.

Another point of interest if Morgan winds up in Lyon is how she would fit in soccer wise. The club is one of the deepest in the world including the crack striker pairing of Eugenie Le Sommer and Ada Hegerberg. Morgan scored 4 goals with 1 assist in 15 matches for the Pride last season.

  • newsouth

    she’s not the same player from 11-12. take the money and develop young french girls. what’s up with clubs paying a premium price for “after the fact” players?

    • Steglitz49

      Lyon hired Pinoe in 2013. Was that “before the fact”? PSG, Tobin.

      • newsouth

        they were both over priced bench warmers. money could have been used to develop french girls.

        • Steglitz49

          Tobin learnt to take freekicks. Maybe the great man himself taught her?

          • Drake Ocean

            You mean the large bigmouth who uses to choke when it comes to later stages of the CL?

        • HOFCToDi

          newsouth is a moron.

          Christen Press has yet to score a goal versus a FIFA Top Twelve Ranked opponent in calendar year 2016.

          fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/women/index.html

          Christen Press has yet to provide an assist versus a FIFA Top Twelve Ranked opponent in calendar year 2016.

          fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/women/index.html

          4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
          78 caps
          2 head coaches

          Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

          garbage time
          prima donna
          selfish shot hog
          tomato cans

      • guest

        any chance rapinoe can go back to france? and also play for the french national team? she’s bigger than the uswnt now.

    • nude report

      because the ownership of Lyon have secret camera in the locker room and this is their willing to pay this kind of money to see her fully nude.

      • Steglitz49

        Kindly withdraw your comment.

      • Steglitz49

        Where are StegPatrol, StegWorld and StegWatch when we need them? This has been up 2 days now.

        • TrollWatch

          A single, isolated post does not rise to the level of trolling in TrollWatch’s view.

          Besides, the commenter may have a valid point. What exactly do sugar daddies get out of supporting women’s soccer anyway? There’s certainly no financial reward, that much is certain.

          • Steglitz49

            How do you know it is isolated when they do not register themselves?

            Just admit that you missed it, as did StegPatrol, StegWatch and StegWorld.

    • HOFCToDi

      newsouth is a moron.

      USWNT Goals Scored
      Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 34
      Leroux (DOB 07 May 1990) – 8
      Press (DOB 29 Dec 1988) – 3
      Johnston (DOB 06 Apr 1992) – 2
      Dunn (DOB 03 Jul 1992) – 2
      Horan (DOB 26 May 1994) – 2
      Mewis (DOB 09 Oct 1992) – 1

      4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
      78 caps
      2 head coaches

      Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

      garbage time
      prima donna
      selfish shot hog
      tomato cans

    • HOFCToDi

      newsouth is a moron.

      Calendar Year 2016
      FIFA Top 12 Ranked Opponents
      USWNT Goals Scored
      Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 6
      Horan (DOB 26 May 1994) – 2
      Lloyd (DOB 16 Jul 1982) – 2
      Dunn (DOB 03 Jul 1992) – 1
      Heath (DOB 29 May 1988) – 1
      Johnston (DOB 06 Apr 1992) – 1
      Long (DOB 13 Aug 1987) – 1
      Mewis (DOB 09 Oct 1992) – 1

      By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

      4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
      78 caps
      2 head coaches

      Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

      garbage time
      prima donna
      selfish shot hog
      tomato cans

  • Steglitz49

    Sadly, this is the day before yesterday’s news.

    My reading of the tealeaves is that Alex is pursuing this as a part of a combo. Her sponsors want her to broaden and increase brand and Alex does not mind. She has served 4 years with her shoulder to the wheel in the NWSL. Now she will do her thing. Playing for Lyon not only gets her a shot at the Champions League but also with it almost certainly the Treble.

    More power to her elbow, I say.

    • USMNTfan4life

      I didn know she has alot of sponsors (Nationwide, etc?), but her experience with Lyon may cause a rift with her stateside team, much like David Beckham and the Los Angeles Galaxy. Fans were pissed he was devoting so much time to get on the Three Lions men’s team. Once he knew he was finished, he spent his remaining time here dedicated and professional, and as a result, he succeeded.

      • Steglitz49

        In the first year of the NWSL Alex did not piss off to France like two of her WNT colleagues nor did she announce that she was pregnant after she had been allocated nor did she ask for a leave of absence to prepare for the WC.

        I see this as Alex enjoying life, liberty and pursuing happiness, something which the Constitution guarantees her.

  • FawcettFan14

    I get wanting the “European experience,” but honestly going to Lyon won’t help her game. Lyon routinely beats up on overwhelmed opponents, PSG aside. It will be a chance for Morgan to pad her stats and little else. She won’t get the week in, week out competition she does with NWSL. And to be honest she has much to improve on. Her production with Orlando was not impressive.

    It’s ironic, WoSo in the U.S. (a comparatively unequal, capitalist country compared to Western Europe) is quite egalitarian, while in France/Spain/Germany etc the leagues are so lopsided with one or two winners and the rest fighting for scraps!

    • Steglitz49

      It depends what you compare with what.

      Firstly, not all the domestic leagues in the various European countries are as two-shoed as the French one.
      Secondly, more young ladies play soccer in the US than in Europe. Thus, you ought to compare with the Champions League and in that the last 8-12 teams are not so uneven.
      Thirdly, I doubt that Alex sees a spell with Lyon as anything but an experience. Lyon is the gastronomical capital of the world. It is centrally placed in Europe so travel is easy. The spirit in the club is good.
      Fourthly, it will grow the Alex Brand in Europe, something that will please her individual sponsors.
      Fifthly, who cares? It is Alex’s and Serv’s lives.

      • SpiritFan80

        I don’t know if it will be good for her game or not in the long run. If my career gave me the opportunity to live abroad for some time and probably make more money doing it, why not? This is a good time for her to go, married but no kids.

        • Steglitz49

          as in “See Lyon and eat” — or do I mean Naples?

        • kernel_thai

          This is the ultimate working vacation for her and hubby.

      • USMNTfan4life

        I don’t think her brand is THAT big, but I guess her going to Lyon is primarily to take advantage of her looks, so little French boys get their moms to pay money to see her. WoSo has a much smaller profile that the US, so her going there surprises me.

        • guest

          If the boys don’t come out for Necib or Boulleau (I used to have a liking for Thiney as well) they won’t come out for Morgan.

          • USMNTfan4life

            Hey, I like Louisa Necib, but I agree with you. If they didn’t come out for Necib, they ain’t coming out for Morgan, even if the French have a weird love for American celebrities and McDonalds, both of which will make one fat!

          • Steglitz49

            Hear hear!

        • Steglitz49

          I suspect you are partly right. Lyon will market this exceptional player so as to increase attendance. It may well work.

          The matches against Wolfsburg should attract a big crowd anyway and should they go through the SF even more. Then there are the Domestic cup ties and of course the league itself.

        • Francois F

          Many French boys might say two things are missing when looking at her though

          • Steglitz49

            Where are StegWatch, StegWorld and StegPatrol when we need them?

    • Godot

      “week in, week out”. How many weeks have that been this year? 5? 6?

      By the way – check the German table. There are not just one, two winners and the rest.

      Leaving comfort zone will help her a lot. Especially if it would be in a non-English speaking countries with a different soccer approach

      • Steglitz49

        Alex could always go and play for Göteborg, the club on the west coast of Sweden where so many US players cut their teeth. Or, why not Avaldsnes in the Westland of Norway where there is no latte, they speak an incomprehensible dialect, more people go to the matches than live in the hamlet and where the copper in the Statue of Liberty came from …

    • kernel_thai

      I agree the schedule doesnt help her…she gets PSG and maybe two competitive UEFACL matches. Practice on the other hand will help her a lot in my opinion. Lyon plays a system that Morgan will have to fit into. This will also give her the chance to be a provider again with lots of other options to do the finishing. If she does this for two seasons I think she brings a better game back with her. And the bonus is the next WC is in France.

      • Arnoud

        Within in the next few months she might have 5 competitive CL games (Lyon plays against Wolfsburg in QF), competetive league games against PSG (twice) and Montepellier and 2 competetive national cup games

        • kernel_thai

          Wouldnt the first PSG be before the transfer window? Yeah I did forget the Coupe de France

          • Arnoud

            You are right. The first game against Paris is scheduled for December 17

  • smallbatches

    Good that she willing to leave her comfort zone. Maybe she needs this challenge to take her game up a notch. Playing with a good technical team can only help her develop a better overall game. I doubt the money really is that much of a factor. She makes plenty right now. I like this direction for her.

    • Steglitz49

      Alex could be Lyon’s “babyfaced assassin”. He did not like the nickname; I doubt that she will be given it because it belongs to him.

      • rkmid71

        How about the “smokinghotfaced assassin”?

        • Steglitz49

          “Smart Alex”?

          • rkmid71

            Maybe just “Alex” like Zlatan or Marta. Did you see Sauerbrunn made some statement that both sides still far apart on CBA?

          • Steglitz49

            Would it not need to be Alexandra? (There is, of course, also Alexandra Popp.)

            As regards the CBA, this is not a strong year to exert leverage from the players side, methinks. Maybe Brasilia was the USWNT’s Stalingrad?

          • USMNTfan4life

            I think she believes that the CBA will not increase her income all that much, so Europe (not on same level as te men, but…), she stands to garner more $$ playing for a richer club like Lyon.

          • Steglitz49

            She may well be right.

        • kernel_thai

          The plan for Morgan is Schelin 2.0

          • Steglitz49

            Indeed. L8 was Lyon’s first big international signing in 2008. Allegedly they paid Göteborg about $200,000 to get her. L8 scored a lot of critical goals for them as well as assists.

    • USMNTfan4life

      She makes a reasonable amount (for a soccer player, in general, but mostly from endorsements as a pretty white girl). My guess is that she is going to Lyon because either 1) NWSL is slowly showing signs of financial trouble, 2) the WNT talks with the USSF over a new CBA are not going well, or 3) she wants to expand her “brand” to Europe. But women’s soccer has a much lower profile there, so I am not sure if her reasoning is for number 3 (above).

      • John

        A little from 1 and 2 I would say.

      • HOFCToDi

        I’ll go with #2. I would not doubt the USSF locks out the USWNT players once the CBA expires and calls in the collegiates.

        • I wouldn’t

          If USSF did lock out the WNT players, why call in college players as scabs? How many fans would pay to see a college team play?

          • HOFCToDi

            The USWNT players derive from the college ranks. Besides, calendar year 2017 is literally a dead year without any FIFA World Cup Qualification matches.

      • HOFCToDi

        As for #1, you have the wrong acronym. The NASL is showing signs of financial trouble.

        • USMNTfan4life

          Yeah, I know about that. Sad really. USL is slowly become D-2 for the men. But, the NWSL is not on a firm footing either. No new corporate sponsors (nike just provides unis/doesnt make too much on merch sales), etc. So, we shall see what happens in the next year or two.

          • HOFCToDi

            Why would sponsors pony up after watching two women’s professional soccer leagues file for bankruptcy within this century?

      • atalba

        How about just for money and intrigue. If she’s only going for a short period, that will hardly be enough to impact her game. The domestic games are so one-sided, they’re not of any value on the pitch. Many of the CL games are also not that challenging. With the scores they rack up, there’s plenty of time on the pitch to play meaningless football; but the money!

        • Steglitz49

          Wrong. The remaining Champions League games are challenging. First Lyon play Wolfsburg. If they go through, they probably will play Man City. The final will be tough.

          • atalba

            Ok great, there’s a few games. That would be worth it to me; for the money. But could she gain any new habits?

          • Steglitz49

            Que?! Like the French vice?

          • Breakers fan

            The daily training sessions with/against Lyon teammates will probably, or maybe definitely, be the most valuable soccer time she spends there and perhaps could lead to some change in her game.

          • atalba

            It could and I would hope so. But it’s not like she’ll be learning a new position. Her job will be to put the ball in the back of the net; maybe with incentives.

          • Steglitz49

            She may go native, travel Europe and simply enjoy life in all its fullness.

          • Steglitz49

            She will make new friends. She will see a continent. Life is full of surprises. All at the top level of the game.

          • Steglitz49

            Habits? like drinking Coke?

        • Hood

          I can’t remember you writing the same about the last USWNT friendly games.

          • atalba

            I’m not sure what you mean. I know I said the friendlies were valuable to sort out the formation and evaluate players. I also mentioned it would help players like Long learn how to play CB in a 3-back line. I’ve sense learned that a 3-back line uses the CB more like a.a . holding MF, so it makes even more sense to try out holding midfielders. I enjoyed watching them and I think they’re valuable. What else?

      • HOFCToDi

        Alex Morgan is one of the few who have experienced the trifecta:

        FIFA U-20 Women’s World Cup gold medal
        FIFA Women’s World Cup gold medal
        Summer Olympics gold medal

        Alex Morgan was already a WINNER at the age of 19.

        youtube.com/watch?v=PacY7Enz9hQ

        2008 Goal of the Year declared

        fifa.com/theclub/news/newsid=999807/index.html

        USA striker Alex Morgan’s 42nd-minute winner against Korea in the final of the FIFA U-20 Women’s World Cup Chile 2008 is rated as the second best goal of the year. Morgan walked away with the Adidas Silver Ball and Bronze Shoe awards for her four goals and stellar performance at the tournament.

        • Steglitz49

          Alex Morgan has scored some of the most important goals in US history — and fans of WoSo around the world know which they are.

        • Steglitz49

          Have yet to win the Champions league though she played in the inaugural NWSL Championship match.

          Bombed with resonance in Brasilia.

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    • JL

      What challenge? There is no challenge in that league, especially with a team that regularly runs over its domestic competition.

      • Steglitz49

        Champions League. Domestic Cup. as well as the league.

  • Gulati4Capitol

    Last train to Europe and especially to France.
    Remains to be seen how long Americans are welcome here.
    And how long the US takes players back from France. Baby Assassin might have met islamic assassins in Paris and Nice and so …

    • Godot

      Paranoia?

      • Gulati4Capitol

        I think most Americans have no idea how much the Europeans look down on us as complete idiots. These Olympics either way might just have been the last with all nations participating. But dream on in your bubble.

        • guest

          the europeans look down on the us until they get invaded. then they are the first ones begging for american help.

          • guest

            that’s true. if poland get’s invaded by russia again, who do you think poland is gonna call first? the french? lolllllllll.

        • T lions

          Not on “us” only on guys like you

        • guest

          “How much the Europeans look down on us as complete idiots.” Of course, and what do you suppose they think of our soccer? The Germans on the USMNT cannot take it very seriously. Other than a chance to play in the WC, get TV exposure, and earn a nice paycheck, they have to believe they’re playing for an inferior side. Their disdain for the US shows up as a lack of commitment and halfheartedness on the pitch, their superior European attitudes have a corrosive effect on the entire team, and they need to be dumped ASAP.

  • Ando91881

    Chicago Tribune’s female sports journalist won’t write a word about the Red Stars or Christen Press, so the public doesn’t know who she is. But she did write a boring, generic article about women as sports fans in general. This does not count as actual Red Stars coverage, but it is example of what she writes. Same old articles that have been copied and pasted other places.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-sports-women-ryan-spt-1204-20161203-column.html

    • Steglitz49

      Women as sports fans in general? Does that mean those who watch show jumping and dressage, figure skating and gymnastics, and synchronized swimming?

      Can a woman simply be a fan of sports, like men are?

      • Ando91881

        I’m trying to give you an example of how even a female sports journalist at Chicago’s largest, most popular newspaper can write 300,000 words per year about sports and not one of those words will be Christen Press.

        • HOFCToDi

          No one cares.

          Christen Press
          2016 Summer Olympic Games
          Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 6, Shots on Goal 1
          Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

          Christen Press
          2016 Rio Olympics
          12 Aug 2016
          USA 1 SWE 1
          Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 2, Shots on Goal 0
          Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

          rio2016.com/en/football-womens-quarterfinal-fb-3

          Christen Press
          2016 Rio Olympics
          09 Aug 2016
          USA 2 COL 2
          Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 4, Shots on Goal 1

          rio2016.com/en/football-womens-first-round-group-g-fb-5

        • HOFCToDi

          timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/si-olympics-cover-the-greatests-jpg.jpeg?quality=85&w=1100

          Not one soccer player in the picture.

          • By the Shore

            Those are each multi medal winners. Women soccer can win only one medal per games.

          • HOFCToDi

            The USWNT won zero medals.

            The USOC did just fine without the USWNT:

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Summer_Olympics#Medal_table

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swimming_at_the_2016_Summer_Olympics#Medal_table

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics_at_the_2016_Summer_Olympics#Medal_table

        • HOFCToDi

          Calendar Year 2016
          Average Home Attendance
          Chicago Sky – 7,009
          Chicago Red Stars – 3,060

        • Steglitz49

          Christen Press is not a star like Alex Morgan.

  • jdee26

    MORGAN SHOULD EMBRACE CHALLENGE…..

    Morgan, in my opinion is the most prolific striker in the women’s game.Her athleticism and skills would be valuable assets for Lyon in their pursuit of the championship.

    • guest

      i think you are confusing morgan with Press/Hegerberg

      • HOFCToDi

        Christen Press sucks, dumbass.

        USWNT Goals Scored
        Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 34
        Leroux (DOB 07 May 1990) – 8
        Press (DOB 29 Dec 1988) – 3
        Johnston (DOB 06 Apr 1992) – 2
        Dunn (DOB 03 Jul 1992) – 2
        Horan (DOB 26 May 1994) – 2
        Mewis (DOB 09 Oct 1992) – 1

        4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
        78 caps
        2 head coaches

        Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

        garbage time
        prima donna
        selfish shot hog
        tomato cans

        • FawcettFan14

          What a sad, lonely life you lead.

          • HOFCToDi

            The WNBA is more popular than the NWSL in Chicago.

            Calendar Year 2016
            Average Home Attendance
            Chicago Sky – 7,009
            Chicago Red Stars – 3,060

          • guest

            Press’ performance is historically inconsistent on the national team, but you can’t deny she is one of the best club players and a lot of fun to watch. We’ll see if she can keep it up.

          • HOFCToDi

            The only performance that matters for the USWNT is with the USWNT.

            FIFA Top 10 Ranked Opponents
            USWNT Goals Scored
            Leroux (DOB 07 May 1990) – 8
            Press (DOB 29 Dec 1988) – 3

          • FawcettFan14

            Are you a robot? Because you seem to be malfunctioning. Some kind of short circuiting happening in your brain.

          • JL

            Is he still talking crap about Press? The hate for her that he has is so sad.

      • HOFCToDi

        Christen Press sucks, dumbass.

        Calendar Year 2016
        FIFA Top 12 Ranked Opponents
        USWNT Goals Scored
        Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 6
        Horan (DOB 26 May 1994) – 2
        Lloyd (DOB 16 Jul 1982) – 2
        Dunn (DOB 03 Jul 1992) – 1
        Heath (DOB 29 May 1988) – 1
        Johnston (DOB 06 Apr 1992) – 1
        Long (DOB 13 Aug 1987) – 1
        Mewis (DOB 09 Oct 1992) – 1

        By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

        4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
        78 caps
        2 head coaches

        Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

        garbage time
        prima donna
        selfish shot hog
        tomato cans

      • HOFCToDi

        Christen Press sucks, dumbass.

        Christen Press has yet to score a goal versus a FIFA Top Twelve Ranked opponent in calendar year 2016.

        fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/women/index.html

        Christen Press has yet to provide an assist versus a FIFA Top Twelve Ranked opponent in calendar year 2016.

        fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/women/index.html

        4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
        78 caps
        2 head coaches

        Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

        garbage time
        prima donna
        selfish shot hog
        tomato cans

      • Steglitz49

        You could add Marta to that list. Also some north-Americans.

    • DNG

      Morgan is not better than Hegerberg. I definitely disagree on the “most prolific striker in the women’s game”. There were at least 7 forwards who had better NWSL seasons last year.

      • kernel_thai

        But Morgan will compliment Hegerberg. A lot of top strikers would see it as a competition not an opportunity.

        • DNG

          Is she really a better compliment than Le Sommer? I don’t think so especially considering the way Lyon plays. If you’re asking if I think they can still win with Morgan starting and Le Sommer playing a different supporting role? Sure. Morgan wouldn’t be in my starting team if I was selecting a best XI from Lyon though.

          • kernel_thai

            They were fine with Schelin/Hegerberg/ELS so I dont see this as a big change. If this effects anyone it’s the younger forwards Lyon is developing.

          • DNG

            Like I said I think they can win with a variety of different lineups. That doesn’t mean that I would pick Morgan for my starting XI. I think Lyon has better players.

          • kernel_thai

            But Lyon is about star power.

          • DNG

            I agree with this but that doesn’t mean that Morgan makes Lyon’s starting XI better like some people are claiming. Who exactly do you think she’s a better player than. I think this move(not confirmed yet) is all about Lyon showing the rest of the club soccer world that they can sign whoever they want along with the opportunity to try and leverage Morgan’s popularity to young girls in France. I’m skeptical the latter will work.

          • kernel_thai

            I think this move is about a lot of things. I think it is about Lyon having a long reach. It’s also about adding a new attraction to the circus even tho they sell out every show…this is Lyon taking out insurance. It may also be a bit about Henry going to the NWSL because the league is more competitive.

          • Steglitz49

            I suspect that Lyon hope that Alex will be another L8. Her contribution to the success of Lyon is amazing.

            Lotta quickly became popular with the fans, She learnt French and in interviews chatted away mangling their language at her heart’s content. They loved her in Lyon and all of WoSo France.

          • Steglitz49

            They also had Lara Dieckemann before she left for Germany.

          • kernel_thai

            Who also left apparently for reasons other than money.

          • Steglitz49

            Maybe the cooking got too rich for her. As German-speaking Swizz, she was missing her beer and sausage culture.

      • Silver Frost

        How many WC or OG gold medals do Le Sommer and Hegerberg possess? This is just nonsense to pretend Morgan is not the best forward on the planet. OL knows it, which is why they will sign her.

        • guest

          lol… I think that is a stretch. More like Morgan scored some of the most memorable goals. I don’t think she is the most skilled forward on the planet at all.

          • Silver Frost

            She’s come up with goals in massive games when nobody else did.

          • #1Fan

            If I put Marta in the US team, does she win more games ?

          • Silver Frost

            A hypothetical which will never happen.

          • #1Fan

            so you totally discount the quality of team she is on and who they are playing against . OK. Was she the most feared and prolific forward in the NWSL ?

          • guest

            the Pride had a host of problems other than Morgan. She didn’t have a lot to work with. So really, you are discounting team quality within the nwsl

          • #1Fan

            Wrong. The guy who made the assertion can’t have it both ways. Im simply pointing that out.

          • John

            If you put Marta in the US team they would have won at least two more World Cups. But that is neither here nor there.

          • #1Fan

            its very relevant if you think AM is the worlds greatest striker because of her International medals .

          • Steglitz49

            Verily and forsooth.

          • guest

            fours years ago is a long time ago.

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press
            2016 Summer Olympic Games
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 6, Shots on Goal 1
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            Christen Press
            2016 Rio Olympics
            12 Aug 2016
            USA 1 SWE 1
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 2, Shots on Goal 0
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            rio2016.com/en/football-womens-quarterfinal-fb-3

            Christen Press
            2016 Rio Olympics
            09 Aug 2016
            USA 2 COL 2
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 4, Shots on Goal 1
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 0, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            rio2016.com/en/football-womens-first-round-group-g-fb-5

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press
            2016 SheBelieves Cup
            Goals 0, Assists 0

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press
            2016 CONCACAF Women’s Olympic Qualifying
            Knockout Stage
            Goals 0, Assists 0

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press has yet to score a goal versus a FIFA Top Twelve Ranked opponent in calendar year 2016.

            fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/women/index.html

            Christen Press has yet to provide an assist versus a FIFA Top Twelve Ranked opponent in calendar year 2016.

            fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/women/index.html

            4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
            78 caps
            2 head coaches

            Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

            garbage time
            prima donna
            selfish shot hog
            tomato cans

          • HOFCToDi

            Wrong, dumbass.

            Calendar Year 2016
            FIFA Top 12 Ranked Opponents
            USWNT Goals Scored
            Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 6
            Horan (DOB 26 May 1994) – 2
            Lloyd (DOB 16 Jul 1982) – 2
            Dunn (DOB 03 Jul 1992) – 1
            Heath (DOB 29 May 1988) – 1
            Johnston (DOB 06 Apr 1992) – 1
            Long (DOB 13 Aug 1987) – 1
            Mewis (DOB 09 Oct 1992) – 1

            By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

            Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

            4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
            78 caps
            2 head coaches

            Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

            garbage time
            prima donna
            selfish shot hog
            tomato cans

        • HOFCToDi

          Hegerberg failed to deliver for Norway:

          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_UEFA_Women%27s_Olympic_Qualifying_Tournament

          • Steglitz49

            Caroline Graham Hansen was injured.

            Maren Mjelde did the business.

        • #1Fan

          So playing on the strongest team and winning makes you the best player..ummm OK. How many WC and OG medals does Messi have ? Oh wait …..

          Only in the USA ..because they have have had a massive advantage and won …do we think that the Wc and OG are the only measures of being a good player. Score a goal in these and you are great, even if its a tap in.

          SMH

          • HOFCToDi

            Football at the 2008 Summer Olympics – Men’s tournament

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_2008_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_tournament

            Football at the 2008 Summer Olympics – Men’s team squads

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_2008_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_team_squads#Argentina

          • HOFCToDi

            Argentina reached the final of the Copa América. Argentina reached the final of the Copa América Centenario. Argentina reached the final of the FIFA World Cup.

            Meanwhile, Norway failed to qualify for the 2016 Rio Olympics and Ada Hederberg failed to deliver against Sweden and Switzerland.

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_UEFA_Women%27s_Olympic_Qualifying_Tournament

            Let’s review. Reached final of major tournament versus failed to qualify for major tournament.

          • #1Fan

            I don’t give 2 hoots about Hederberg. Im simply pointing out that winning OG and WC medals does not make a player best in the world. If you think Morgan is the best striker in the world, your argument has to have a lot more to it than her International trophy cabinet.

          • HOFCToDi

            Hey dumbass,

            When did I state that Alex Morgan was the best striker in the world.? Oh yeah, you can’t freakin’ read:

            Alex Morgan was the best forward for the USWNT in calendar year 2016. Two healthy knees and two healthy ankles makes a huge difference.

            Calendar Year 2016
            FIFA Top 12 Ranked Opponents
            USWNT Goals Scored
            Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 6
            Horan (DOB 26 May 1994) – 2
            Lloyd (DOB 16 Jul 1982) – 2
            Dunn (DOB 03 Jul 1992) – 1
            Heath (DOB 29 May 1988) – 1
            Johnston (DOB 06 Apr 1992) – 1
            Long (DOB 13 Aug 1987) – 1
            Mewis (DOB 09 Oct 1992) – 1

            By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

          • #1Fan

            Hew dumbass, who ever said i was talking to you when I made my original response . Silver Frost was the Op , not you.

            Silver Frost DNG • an hour ago

            How many WC or OG gold medals do Le Sommer and Hegerberg possess? This is just nonsense to pretend Morgan is not the best forward on the planet. OL knows it, which is why they will sign her.

            I suggest YOU learn to follow a thread you idiot.

          • HOFCToDi

            You are the dumbass.

            Football at the 2008 Summer Olympics – Men’s tournament

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_2008_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_tournament

            Football at the 2008 Summer Olympics – Men’s team squads

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_2008_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_team_squads#Argentina

            You don’t even know association football history.

          • #1Fan

            How many gold medals has Messi WON ? You can’t read and are proven wrong so now you try and deflect to something else. Classic Internet troll behavior

          • HOFCToDi

            You are the dumbass. You don’t even know association football history. You were called out and can’t even admit you are wrong.

            Norway failed to qualify for the 2016 Rio Olympics and Ada Hederberg failed to deliver against Sweden and Switzerland.

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_UEFA_Women%27s_Olympic_Qualifying_Tournament

            Ada Hederberg looks good playing for the France women’s national football team with Lyon. Otherwise, Ada Hederberg failed to deliver for Norway.

          • #1Fan

            WTF are you talking about. Your are beyond stupid. I was not even addressing you and you spewed forth a bunch of rubbish as usual. The only “mistake” i made was not writing GOLD medals , but I believe it was clearly implied in the conversation with Silver Frost . Showing that arguably the best male player has no WC winners medal and No Olympic Gold. Now do me a fav, and go talk to someone who actually cares about your opinion

          • HOFCToDi

            You are the dumbass. You don’t even know association football history. You were called out and can’t even admit you are wrong.

            You can’t even discern the huge discrepancy between reaching the final of major tournament and failing to qualify for major tournament.

            Argentina reached the final of the Copa América. Argentina reached the final of the Copa América Centenario. Argentina reached the final of the FIFA World Cup.

            Norway failed to qualify for the 2016 Rio Olympics.

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_UEFA_Women%27s_Olympic_Qualifying_Tournament

            If Hederberg was so great, she would have willed her national team to the 2016 Rio Olympics. Some posters have even stated that Caroline Hansen not Ada Hederberg was the best player for Norway at the aforementioned UEFA Olympic Qualification Tournament.

          • #1Fan

            Where did I even mention Hederberg ? Please show me. Please. The only player I mentioned was Marta. Could you be any more wrong ? Silver Frost did not mention Finals. He mentioned winning. Seriously, I’m done, this is so pointless as most conversations with you seem to be. This is my first and last

          • HOFCToDi

            When has Silver Frost brought up the name Messi? When has Silver Frost brought up the name Marta? You tossed in the red herring.

          • Steglitz49

            Who is the current best woman striker in the world?

            Carli is still the FIFA POTY and may even be it again.
            Is it Blackstenius?
            Sara Däbritz?

          • Hood

            Stupid arguments. Soccer is a team sport. You need more than 11 players (and luck) to win titles (or coming close). And sometimes you even need the help of FIFA and referees (USWNT 2015).

            However, regardless of your wrong argument, I think Morgan was for sure one of the best players globally over the last 5 years (if not the best). She delivered when needed.

            So, from my perspective she was better than Hegerberg. I am not sure whether or not she still is though.

            It may help her and her motivation to try something different in an unknown environment.

            Having endless training camps with the USWNT and playing many games in her comfort zone (at home) against tomatoe cans might not be good for her future development and motivation. She already won everything

          • guest

            what about over the last three years?

          • Steglitz49

            Alex has not won the ladies Champions League. If she wants to win the FA women’s Cup, then she must play for an English team.

          • Excuses..Excuses

            upvote

          • #1Fan

            Whats so interesting about US players is you can be on a weak team and lose and still be the greatest player ever…just ask Mal Pugh. Ive figured it out…the key part in all this is be from the USA then you are clearly better than everyone else because more people say so

          • kernel_thai

            Hegerberg had over 30 goals last season… if Morgan had a 30 goal season in D1 would that make her a great club player or D1 a soft league? Even in UEFA CL u might only need to beat two decent teams to win the title. The best test of a player will always be what she does with big matches with the game on the line and Morgan has as good a record in those situations as anyone u can name.

          • Bruce

            Horan had 20 goals in D1 straight out of high school. Stats mean nothing in that league.

          • kernel_thai

            Agreed completely and Morgan has never been a stat accumulator. She doesnt feast on bad teams to pad her numbers. A fair knock on Morgan is she doesnt seem to be the player u want to build ur club around. This would be a much worse move if say PSG were bringing her in thinking she would be the difference against Lyon. At Lyon she’ll just blend in as part of the blitzkrieg but when thse few big games do come up I think they might be glad they have her

          • Bruce

            I think the bean counters are the only winners with this move. Bad for Morgan. Bad for Lyon. Bad for the NWSL.

          • Steglitz49

            Good for WoSo world wide, though.

          • kernel_thai

            Not seeing it that way at all. Whenever I see her name posted Morgan’s agent gets a nice Christmas bonus.here it’s an obituary. If half the people here already think she is done how is this not a chance worth taking. On the Lyon side it’s just a plus one. It’s not like they traded Hegerberg to get her. The jugegrnaut will continue whether Morgan signs or not. And yes

          • Steglitz49

            “Life is a tree of peaches
            “and I am the one who reaches
            “for the ones with cream”
            — sang Satchmo

          • #1Fan

            Last one. So you would NOT trade Hegerberg for her correct ?

          • Steglitz49

            By all accounts Lyon are not.

          • mockmook

            Why bad for Morgan? She will stay sharp in the NWSL off season (and a little beyond).

          • Steglitz49

            Prejudice? Envy?

          • Bruce

            I can’t see how putting more milage on a player in her late 20s who has struggled with injuries can be a good thing.

            Worst case for her really isn’t all that unlikely: she doesn’t really add much to Lyons (or her brand) and comes back to the US too banged up to contribute to the Pride or compete for a spot on the NT.

          • mockmook

            If anything, with her “advanced age”, I think it is even more vital to keep fit and sharp.

            Use her remaining productive years to get as much out of her body as she can.

          • Steglitz49

            Indeed.

            It is funny that nobody complains when NWSL players go down under to Australia for a paid vacation but when a mega-star contemplates life in the gastronomical capital of the world, she is immediately flayed and crucified by the nerds.

          • #1Fan

            no one is flaying her. the debate started based on the claim she was the best forward in the world. Stop trying to make things up

          • Steglitz49

            Alex certainly has left a mark on WoSo over the past 6 years or so. For that the US should be truly grateful.

            Granted, Marta is hors categorie as they say in the Tour de France and maybe one must add Sawa to that lot though she has retired, gotten married and had a baby — not necessarily in that order.

          • kernel_thai

            While there is always the danger of injury there is a possible plus side to advanced age. Spending a couple season honing her technique with a team like Lyon could serve to prolong her career as her speed fades.

          • guest

            morgan certainly hasn’t been a stat accumulator at the club level. not including the uswnt club team.

          • Steglitz49

            Has Alex ever been sent off? I know Miyama has and probably Marta too.

          • #1Fan

            hold on a sec. This is the thing about forums. The discussion was a debate about Morgan being THE BEST FORWARD IN THE GAME. That is the context. Nothing else. You are now confirming that you don’t think she is either. No one is saying she is not a good player. no one is saying she has not had a great career.

          • Steglitz49

            Who is the best forward in the game?

            Is it Rolfö, whom Bayern Munich acquired? Most would say that Blackstenius is better but we do not know if she is being bought. Yet others would say it is Pernille Harder.

            You could turn it around and say, hang on a second. The German’s won in Rio. Do their forwards not count? Like Popp or Islacker? (Däbritz,Leupolz and DZ are considered midfielders.)

            For some reason Lyon is interested in Alex Morgan and by all accounts ONLY Alex Morgan. Time will tell.

          • guest

            four years ago is a long time ago.

          • Hearing

            Good, that she might be able to prove that in upcoming games against Wolfsburg

          • #1Fan

            How many big matches has Morgan played in recently?

          • Steglitz49

            Lyon is buying her as a “clutch” player and for her reputation.

            Can you think of a player in the higher echelons of the game you would rather buy? Not least given the players that Lyon already have and the ones they have let go recently.

          • #1Fan

            can you show me ANY recent evidence of her being clutch ? MLS used to do the same thing. There is no way you can convince me that Morgans best play is ahead of her. Or indeed that she is playing as well as she ever has.

          • Steglitz49

            Alex scored the 1-1 equalizer in the Bomb in Brasilia. Alex pounced on a half chance.

            Had the match finished 0-1 to Sweden, it would have been an even greater humiliation (but paradoxically saved Hope, probably) and also the US would now be ranked #2, no #1.

            (Granted with a ref crew that knew the laws of the game and applied them, the goal would have been disallowed because of the foul that started the move but that does not detract from Alex’s skill in play.)

          • #1Fan

            You are joking right? you are telling me that a clutch player on a team with 60+ of the ball could only manage that ? and then miss a penalty. Really? Thats all you can come up with?

          • Steglitz49

            Admit it. You forgot that goal and who scored it.

            Lyon are trying to buy Alex and not Blackstenius.

          • #1Fan

            No I didn’t forget. Im just shocked you bring that up. she missed a penalty . How on earth is that clutch ? To me its the exact opposite. WoSo is a joke. Its fans go out of their way to justify mediocre play of the payers they love. The objective standards are meaningless because the playing field is so heavily tilted towards a few teams. Its why in the USA you have players with 200 + caps. Its not performance, its all marketing and name recognition .

          • Steglitz49

            Just admit that you forgot that Alex scored that all important goal.

          • #1Fan

            Amazed that you consider a goal all important in a loss. but assign nothing to the most important shot she took. Definition of a fanboy.

          • Steglitz49

            As I typed and as you are ignorant of, a knockout match settled on pso is counted as a draw for ranking purposes. Thus, the WC-11 final and this OG-16 QF are considered draws.

            Had Alex not scored, Sweden would have won. For that reason the goal is important. It preserved the US’s ranking as #1. (Japan has never ranked above #3.)

          • #1Fan

            well aware of it given the US team has been publicly declaring they were undefeated in 2016. Possibly the dumbest interpretation ever. If you don’t proceed in a KO event, you lost. Its that simple.

          • Steglitz49

            If it was not for Alex Morgan and an ignorant and incompetent ref crew, the US could not make that claim.

            Alexandra Morgan; Alexandra the Great. No guarantee she will join Lyon. Might join Göteborg or Rosengård. Who knows — except our Alex.

          • guest

            so did your beloved Christen Press. Also, did you miss Alex’s performance in the She Believes Cup? She basically carried the team on her back.

          • Steglitz49

            Thank you for your support.

            S/he has not told us whom s/he would buy instead. Who would you buy?

          • #1Fan

            I don’t love Press . I think she is a more complete player. Again, try and stick to objective judgement without the emotional attachment. Secondly, I don’t consider the SBC an important event at all. Its a glorified series of friendlies.

          • kernel_thai

            The US played 8 matches against top 10 ranked teams in 2016 and scored 13 goals. Alex Morgan had 6 of them. Horan had 2 and five players had 1 each

          • Steglitz49

            Thank you. #1Fan is more ignorant of reality than s/he likes to admit. Good of view of calling him to book.

          • #1Fan

            Not at all. I don’t think Morgan is the best forward in the game and I don’t think she is particularly clutch. I would except my #1 forward to lead the team in goals as well. Not agreeing with you does not equal ignorant of reality. Clutch is a subjective term. In her last 2 biggest games – she has failed to score in one and missed an huge penalty in the other.

          • Steglitz49

            I think we dealt with that 11 hours ago when you had forgotten about Alex’s 1-1 equalizer.

            Sharpening the cards is not a positive feature.

        • HOFCToDi

          Alex Morgan was the best forward for the USWNT in calendar year 2016.

          Calendar Year 2016
          FIFA Top 12 Ranked Opponents
          USWNT Goals Scored
          Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 6
          Horan (DOB 26 May 1994) – 2
          Lloyd (DOB 16 Jul 1982) – 2
          Dunn (DOB 03 Jul 1992) – 1
          Heath (DOB 29 May 1988) – 1
          Johnston (DOB 06 Apr 1992) – 1
          Long (DOB 13 Aug 1987) – 1
          Mewis (DOB 09 Oct 1992) – 1

          By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

        • HOFCToDi

          Notice that posters that reply toss in red herrings? Notice that posters that reply can’t even stay on point?

          Hederberg
          Le Sommer

          not

          Marta
          Messi

          • Steglitz49

            M is a great letter in WoSo, to wit: Morgan, Miyama, Maruyama, Melanie, Maier, Michelle, Marta …

        • DNG

          I couldn’t disagree more with your rationalization for why you think Morgan is the best forward on the planet(see #1Fan’s point about Messi). I obviously disagree vehemently with that claim. OL want Morgan because:

          1. They want to appear as though they can sign any player they want.

          2. They are hopeful they can market her to generate interest in their team and league.

          • Steglitz49

            More than 22,000 turned up in Lyon for their semi-final against PSG in the Champions League and about 11,000 for the QF before that. Lyon has fine attendances at home and even away.

        • JD

          Lousy argument. Following your logic every player of a world cup winning team is a better player than Cruyff, Zico, Messi or Ronaldo

          • Steglitz49

            The last 3 possibly. Cruyff no. But, Johan did not score that much.

            10 jours behind #1Fan on this one.

          • JD

            OK. Got it. You think Luca Toni and Stephane Guivarc’h were better forwards than Messi or Ronaldo.

            With 95% of your comments you are more than 10 hours behind yourself

          • Steglitz49

            Players are remembered and players are forgotten. Today of the Mighty Magyars we remember Puskas and sometimes I wonder if that is because FIFA named an award after him.

            Le Sommer played on French NTs with a fine supporting cast yet repeatedly they failed to deliver. Your point about Hegerberg is well taken but your own illustrations are weak.

          • JD

            I guess you are simply not able to follow. Silver Frost argued that you have to have a WC or Olympic gold medal to be the best forward. I tried to explain that this is not necessarily true. Puskas is another example.

            I did not say that I consider Le Sommer to be a better forward than Morgan. I didn’t make a point about Hegerberg.

            It may well be that my illustrations are to weak for you.

          • Steglitz49

            You overlooked that Ronaldo is ambiguous.

            Ronaldo, the Brazilian star player, won the WC in 1994 and 2002 and lost in the 1998 final.

            Ronaldo, the Portuguese player often called CR7 to distinguish him from the original Ronaldo, has not won the WC.

            I gave you Puskas. I can give you a few more if you prefer.

          • JD

            Some are capable of getting my point some are not

          • Steglitz49

            Your obvious illustration, which you missed, is Marta.

            We can add Lotta Schelin and the two Hannas — Hanna Marklund and Ljungberg — and why not a couple on those funny letters like Frida Öberg and Josefin Öqvist.

            This is a WoSo site after all.

          • JD

            Got it

            So you will never talk about Grenoli, Zlatan, Puskas and the wonder of Bern anymore

            We don’t need to read your skiing and biathlon ramblings anymore

            And we are also happy to not learn more about your war addiction

          • Steglitz49

            Stay with the female of the species. We are on a WoSo site.

          • Claude

            Stay with the female of the species. We are on a WoSo sit

          • Steglitz49

            Seven hours behind my comment with this message. Yesterday’s comment for yesterday’s WoSo.

          • #1Fan

            went down this road and gave up. Pointless debating it with folks who can’t or don’t want to read

          • Steglitz49

            Not to use Marta as an example on a WoSo site is damning.

            JD obviously does not know the names of female players outside the US and maybe not too many inside either for that matter.

            Also, JD did not know that before CR7 there was the first Ronaldo. That Ronaldo won 2 WCs and played in a losing final. Good grief.

          • JD

            You may accept that I use the examples I want to use.

            And you better not judge what I know about WoSo since you can’t

            #1Fan got my point and you not.

            I thought HOFCToDi was a troll and you were here to discuss.
            But it seems he is right. You are the troll.

            Please simply ignore my posts in future

          • Steglitz49

            How droll.

            #1Fan got your point because he agrees with you.

            While you are at it, please name some WoSo players whose names start with M, L, K, J and A.

          • Claude

            Stay with the female of the species. We are on a WoSo site

          • Steglitz49

            7 hours behind my comment with this message. Yesterday’s man for yesterday’s WoSo.

          • Claude

            8 hours behind my comment with this messagee. Yesterday’s man for yesterday’s WoSo

    • Bruce

      Lyon has outscored the competition 115-4 last season and 50-2 this year after 8 games. Considering Morgan (or anyone) an important signing is a joke.

      • #1Fan

        Hate to say it but WoSo needs no hep in attaining joke status sadly. Its a marketing exercise too often and the eq pay thing just put me off. Its a bubble, its own virtual world where player seem able to make up their own facts outside of the real world of economics

        • Bruce

          Morgan’s move to Lyon is a bad move for WoSo IMHO. It’s as if LeBron James decided to join the Harlem Globetrotters.

          • #1Fan

            Except Morgan already plays for the International Globetrotters and is now going to play for the Club equivalent. I guess actually playing competitive NWSL games and having to work for it grew tiresome 😉

          • #1Fan

            Heck, with equal pay, she is going to ask for the same deal as Lacazette 🙂

          • Bruce

            LMAO

          • #1Fan

            🙂

          • newsouth

            Thank you.

          • JD

            She already plays with the Harlem Globetrotters. Have you missed their games against Thailand and Romania?

          • Steglitz49

            9 hours after #1. How about using the up-vote?

        • Steglitz49

          Indeed. This year’s POTY and COTY says more than WoSo would like to hear.

    • Steglitz49

      Lyon won the Champions League last season ona pso over Wolfsburg. Since then they have let Lotta Schelin, Louisa Necib and Amandine Henry go.

  • Bruce

    After 8 games, Lyon is averaging over 6 goals per game. It’s inevitable that Morgan will score at least half a goal per game. A corpse could do that playing center forward on Lyon in that league.

    My question: If Lyon’s overall offensive output *drops* by adding Morgan, will anyone here consider her a failure?

    • kernel_thai

      Morgan isnt being brought in to put hat tricks on milk maids from semi pro teams. If she scores the goal that breaks Wolfsberg or Bayern she earns her money

      • Bruce

        So she hasn’t even signed yet and we are already lowering the bar on judging her performance?

        • kernel_thai

          I just dont think it’s about performance. I dont think she needs to lead Lyon in goals to have this be a success for her or Lyon. If she does score a bunch then great for her but I think both sides can get a lot out of this regardless.

        • Steglitz49

          Bayern Munich ladies squad is to die for. They have added Fridolina Rolfö from the SWNT.

          As for Wolfsburg, Lyon beat them in a pso for last season’s Champions League. Wolfsburg’s squad is nothing to be sneezed at either.

          There is also Man City, Barcelona, PSG as well as Rosengård and Hjörring.

    • Steglitz49

      Alex has scored 73 goals in 120 matches for the US but of those 3, possibly 4, are famous. The rest are taken for granted. Not too many remember her assists, some of which have been critical too.

    • dw

      Well, the flip side of the coin says that there will be a lot of pressure on Alex to score. Something she’s used to obviously, but she will not want to be humbled when viewed next to Ada. I think that’s Lyon’s secondary motivation. Keep their long term stars from getting complacent. Even mailing it in Ada can still score tons in D1F while waiting around for the next UWCL fixture. This keeps everyone motivated year-round. Not to mention looking for the next progression. Great team >>> Championship Team >>> Dynasty….

  • Ashley C

    I think the NWSL is obviously more competitive but I think a different training environment and tactics will always be a good thing to add to your game at any stage of your career. Especially on the technical side of things. Would like to see someone like Dunn too or Buchanan. Having a CL trophy on your resume would be nice too. Especially for an American.

    Lyon does not need Lyon but Aulas knows the marketing is there. Surprised PSG isn’t in on American players more given their access to cash. Although I’d imagine under Lair they’re working on a new style/development instead of trying to collect big names. He certainly knew what he was doing at Lyon.

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    • HOFCToDi

      Division 1 Feminine season ends on May 27.

      us.women.soccerway.com/teams/france/olympique-lyonnais-feminin/5279/

      Who says that Alex Morgan won’t return to Orlando in late May/early June?

    • Steglitz49

      I presume that price will decide. You can price yourself out of the market and the Bomb in Brasilia carries a price tag.

      PSG will buy Stina Blackstenius. Lisa Dahlkvist played for the and Caroline Seger went from PSG to Lyon and Kosse Asllani is at Man City. Indeed, and Pernille Harder may be joining PSG too, though it sounds as if she prerefs Germany.

  • guest

    the two-team euro leagues win again. very exciting!

    • Steglitz49

      Money talks. At the moment the money in club WoSo is in Europe. There is also the silverware.

  • Gary Diver

    Marketing Ploy?

    Other than marketing, what is the point?

    As I wrote on another topic page: “Lyon have Eugénie Le Sommer, they have Ada Hegerberg, they have Pauline Bremer, they have Élodie Thomis, and they have superstar midfielder Dzsenifer Marozsán. They need Alex Morgan like they need a proverbial hole in the head. The French league is a joke; Lyon last year had a GD of 111 for 22 matches and did not lose a single league match.”

    Points to consider:
    1. Alex Morgan has been injury prone during the past 3-4 years.

    2. Lyon did not lose a single league match last year. They do not need Morgan and they have Ada Hegerberg, who is a much younger and better forward. Not even clear whether Morgan can be a starter on the current Lyon team. Morgan adds little to Lyon over the players they already can put on the field. Is Alex Morgan is big name in Europe? Will Morgan just being on the roster bring increase attendance? Does anybody in Europe really care?

    3. Morgan (as Steg likes to remind us) is the one USWNT superstar. BUT Morgan has been less than stellar as a club player (which is the role she needs to play at Lyon). In the past 4 years, has Morgan ever rated in the top 10 NWSL forwards?

    4. If Morgan goes to Europe, she will most likely miss a lot of USWNT matches and it is USWNT matches that Morgan has made her reputation and still shines, not her club play.

    5. If USWNT players do not have a contract next year, it would be hard for Morgan to play a major role as a rep leader in negotiations when she is in Europe.

    6. Next year could be a lean year for NWSL and it may need all the help it can pull together. Orlando’s team and attendance prospects could be badly damaged at the time when the new stadium will be available to them to play in.

    7. NWSL bent over backwards to allow Morgan to go to Orlando to be with her husband. Look at what Portland got in return for Morgan and it could turn out now that Orlando gave up everything to get nothing.

    • HOFCToDi

      Alex Morgan has nothing left to prove in her career.

      FIFA U-20 Women’s World Cup gold medal
      FIFA Women’s World Cup gold medal
      Summer Olympics gold medal

      Alex Morgan was already a WINNER at the age of 19.

      youtube.com/watch?v=PacY7Enz9hQ

      2008 Goal of the Year declared

      fifa.com/theclub/news/newsid=999807/index.html

      USA striker Alex Morgan’s 42nd-minute winner against Korea in the final of the FIFA U-20 Women’s World Cup Chile 2008 is rated as the second best goal of the year. Morgan walked away with the Adidas Silver Ball and Bronze Shoe awards for her four goals and stellar performance at the tournament.

      “When Alexandra saw the breadth of her domain, she wept for there were no more worlds to conquer.”

      • Gary Diver

        You are probably right. But this could effect her future role on the US national team down the road. Unlike the Europeans, USWNT is a de facto national team where playing for USWNT comes before playing for ones club team. Morgan will be less available for national camps and Friendlies while playing in Europe. It is her life, but let’s hope she is making a wise choice concerning everything involved.

        • HOFCToDi

          CBA negotiations must have gone south in the last three months.

          Home Matches (Sep, Oct, Nov)
          Sports TV Ratings
          USWNT – 1,184,000 viewers (6 matches)
          USMNT – 2,366,000 viewers (3 matches)

          The USWNTPA better prepare for a potential lockout and find work overseas. The USSF can pay college athletes per diem and save a boat load of money in calendar year 2017.

          • Gary Diver

            Again, you are probably right. Since 1991, has there been any previous strikes or lockouts? If USSF locks out the USWNT players, I fear an unhappy ending for the players. For 2017, USSF does not even need USWNT and they would not be missed.

          • HOFCToDi

            youtube.com/watch?v=pkASh_mjIts&t=1377s
            27:30

          • guest

            USSF locked out USMNT (or players went on strike) during negotiations for men’s CBA back in 2005
            from wiki re USMNT strike/lockout
            “According to various sources, either the players went on strike or were locked out of a December preliminary camp and later the January 2005 camp. In response, the USSF held a camp with replacement players. These players came from the United Soccer Leagues (USL) and Major Indoor Soccer League (MISL). Major League Soccer’s players union (MLSPU) stood with the national team players, advising their membership not to accept invitations to the January camp. With World Cup Qualifying games at risk, the two sides agreed to an interim deal that would guarantee that the first choice players appeared through the qualifying campaign.

            The two sides continued negotiations throughout the summer and into the fall of 2005, before finally reaching a deal in November 2005. That deal was approved by both parties in early December, running through 2010 and assuring that labor issues would not threaten World Cup participation.”

          • HOFCToDi

            “For calendar year 2017, the USSF does not even need the USWNT.”

            The USSF now has all the leverage especially with the aforementioned sports cable television ratings for the past three months. Now is the time for the USSF to migrate to a pay to play structure. It’s high time for the coaching staff to be unfettered by an archaic allocation system.

          • Steglitz49

            If the CBA expires at midnight on New Year’s Eve, how can there be a lock-out?

            The coach can select players on merit and play the ones willing to play.

          • Gary Diver

            I have no idea what will happen on January 1, but Jill Ellis will need to make a decision about her January camp sometime soon so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

          • mockmook

            She can make her “normal” wishes known — but also tell a bunch of college kids to be on stand by.

          • Steglitz49

            Indeed.

            Maybe invite a few of those who played for Mexico U20 just now.

          • Steglitz49

            48 hours is enough notice.

          • Lorehead

            I hesitate to reply to you at all, but bear in mind that the USMNT was playing World Cup qualifiers against its rivals, and the USWNT was playing meaningless friendlies. In any case, the TV deal has been inked and the ratings aren’t going to affect the bottom line in the short term.

        • Steglitz49

          Alex’s status is such that a coach cannot afford to disdain her. Only injury will keep out of the NT.

      • guest

        fifa player of the year?

        • guest

          greatest player of all-time?

          • guest

            greatest team of all-time?

          • Steglitz49

            Frankfurt > Lyon > Umeå.

          • Steglitz49

            That one is too easy: Marta.

    • kernel_thai

      1 An injury prone player is better off in D1 than a lot of places
      2 Exactly the point…they have mostly walkovers. Why pay to watch Lyon crush teams…oh look they have an American star who’s kinda attractive if the light catches her right…let’s go see her
      3 Fair point about performance but they r looking for star power
      4 Certainly out of window matches but this just helps Ellis look at young players
      5 Morgan can certainly put in her two cents from France as well as Florida
      6 I think any deal will include her playing for Orlando as well
      7 see 6
      8 This is a reach of epic proportion. How does anyone taking an interest in Lyon affect their interest in the NWSL? I used to catch the occasional Lyon match while Rapinoe was there and I came out unscathed.

      • newsouth

        how about if she gets bench time like pinoe and heath’? yeah, that would be epic too.

        • Steglitz49

          Unlikely. Alex is in another league than those two. And, she will be much more expensive too so will get playing time.

          • SpiritFan80

            Exactly. Pinoe and Heath both talented and popular in their own right. Morgan has a way more recognizable name outside of just the Woso world. That name brings a much higher price tag, they will want to get as much worth as they can out of her. I don’t see her being benched esp this first season.

          • Steglitz49

            If you want to be totally paranoid, then this is an attack on the whole fabric of US WoSo because there was a time when the dream of a young WoSo lady in Europe to get to play in the US league BUT today the big club money is in UEFA.

            In keeping with such paranoia, getting Alex to any EU club is like getting Benedict Arnold.

          • SpiritFan80

            I have been accused of being a slight conspiracy theorist at times.

            I would liken this to your significant other breaking up with you, saying “I need some time on my own to find myself.” then immediately dating your more sophisticated cousin.

          • Steglitz49

            Indeed. Emma Hayes got to meet the Queen for her work with Chelsea Ladies, the female team that John Terry rescued. Coaching Chicago was a step on that path.

        • HOFCToDi

          Christen Press
          2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
          16 Jun 2015
          USA 1 NGA 0
          Minutes Played 0

          resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/65/00/60/eng_31_0616_nga-usa_fulltime.pdf

          Christen Press was BENCHED!

          Christen Press
          2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
          30 Jun 2015
          USA 2 GER 0
          Minutes Played 0

          resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/65/52/49/eng_49_0630_usa-ger_fulltime.pdf

          Christen Press was BENCHED!

          Christen Press
          2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
          05 Jul 2015
          USA 5 JPN 2
          Minutes Played 0

          resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/66/12/93/eng_52_0705_usa-jpn_fulltime.pdf

          Christen Press was BENCHED!

          Nevermind Christen Press started eleven of the first twelve matches for the USWNT in calendar year 2015.

          ussoccer.com/womens-national-team/lineups/2015-lineups

          ROFLMAO!

        • HOFCToDi

          Christen Press
          2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
          12 Jun 2015
          USA 0 SWE 0
          Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots 2, Shots on Goal 0

          resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/64/73/21/eng_19_0612_usa-swe_fulltime.pdf

          Christen Press
          2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
          22 Jun 2015
          USA 2 COL 0
          Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots 1, Shots on Goal 0

          resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/65/26/11/eng_38_0622_usa-col_fulltime.pdf

          Christen Press
          2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
          26 Jun 2015
          USA 1 CHN 0
          Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots 2, Shots on Goal 0

          resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/65/35/93/eng_45_0626_chn-usa_fulltime.pdf

          Christen Press could not even register a shot on goal.

          Nevermind Christen Press started eleven of the first twelve matches for the USWNT in calendar year 2015.

          ussoccer.com/womens-national-team/lineups/2015-lineups

          ROFLMAO!

        • HOFCToDi

          For USWNT posterity:

          30 June 2015 vs GER, 05 July 2015 vs JPN
          drawformation.com/post/56bc60cb89182/56bc60cb89182.png

          Christen Press
          2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
          30 Jun 2015
          USA 2 GER 0
          Minutes Played 0

          resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/65/52/49/eng_49_0630_usa-ger_fulltime.pdf

          Christen Press was BENCHED!

          Christen Press
          2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
          05 Jul 2015
          USA 5 JPN 2
          Minutes Played 0

          resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/66/12/93/eng_52_0705_usa-jpn_fulltime.pdf

          Christen Press was BENCHED!

          Nevermind Christen Press started eleven of the first twelve matches for the USWNT in calendar year 2015.

          ussoccer.com/womens-national-team/lineups/2015-lineups

          ROFLMAO!

          • Steglitz49

            While you are at it, please give us the lineup in Brasilia this August. It was an august WoSo moment.

      • mockmook

        “kinda attractive if the light catches her right”

        Let’s just say, this is highly subjective.

        • Steglitz49

          I guess he missed the pictures in bodypaint. And the ones in a bikini.

          He probably does not know that Alex has a tattoo, which explains why photos of her are never or at least rarely from a certain angle.

          But. Alex can score goals. And. The good restauranteurs of Lyon probably don’t care a fig about tattoos or bodypaint.

        • kernel_thai

          It was hyperbole : )

          • Steglitz49

            Confess. You missed the classic pictures from about 5 years ago.

        • guest

          it is subjective indeed. There are a few ladies on the national team I consider better looking than the Face of WoSo.

    • HOFCToDi

      3. The only performance that matters for the USWNT is with the USWNT.

      Calendar Year 2016
      FIFA Top 12 Ranked Opponents
      USWNT Goals Scored
      Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 6
      Horan (DOB 26 May 1994) – 2
      Lloyd (DOB 16 Jul 1982) – 2
      Dunn (DOB 03 Jul 1992) – 1
      Heath (DOB 29 May 1988) – 1
      Johnston (DOB 06 Apr 1992) – 1
      Long (DOB 13 Aug 1987) – 1
      Mewis (DOB 09 Oct 1992) – 1

      By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

      Keep up with current events.

      • newsouth
        • HOFCToDi

          You have a serious reading comprehension issue.

          Calendar Year 2016
          FIFA Top 12 Ranked Opponents
          USWNT Goals Scored
          Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 6
          Horan (DOB 26 May 1994) – 2
          Lloyd (DOB 16 Jul 1982) – 2
          Dunn (DOB 03 Jul 1992) – 1
          Heath (DOB 29 May 1988) – 1
          Johnston (DOB 06 Apr 1992) – 1
          Long (DOB 13 Aug 1987) – 1
          Mewis (DOB 09 Oct 1992) – 1

          By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

          ussoccer.com/womens-national-team/lineups

          Keep up with current events.

          Christen Press
          4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
          78 caps
          2 head coaches

          Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

          garbage time
          prima donna
          selfish shot hog
          tomato cans

        • HOFCToDi

          FIFA Top 10 Ranked Opponents
          USWNT Goals Scored
          Morgan (DOB 02 Jul 1989) – 34
          Leroux (DOB 07 May 1990) – 8
          Press (DOB 29 Dec 1988) – 3

          Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

          4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
          78 caps
          2 head coaches

          Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

          garbage time
          prima donna
          selfish shot hog
          tomato cans

          • FlyingSquirrel42
          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press
            2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
            12 Jun 2015
            USA 0 SWE 0
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots 2, Shots on Goal 0

            resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/64/73/21/eng_19_0612_usa-swe_fulltime.pdf

            Christen Press
            2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
            22 Jun 2015
            USA 2 COL 0
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots 1, Shots on Goal 0

            resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/65/26/11/eng_38_0622_usa-col_fulltime.pdf

            Christen Press
            2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
            26 Jun 2015
            USA 1 CHN 0
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots 2, Shots on Goal 0

            resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/65/35/93/eng_45_0626_chn-usa_fulltime.pdf

            Christen Press could not even register a shot on goal.

            Christen Press
            2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
            16 Jun 2015
            USA 1 NGA 0
            Minutes Played 0

            resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/65/00/60/eng_31_0616_nga-usa_fulltime.pdf

            Christen Press was BENCHED!

            Christen Press
            2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
            30 Jun 2015
            USA 2 GER 0
            Minutes Played 0

            resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/65/52/49/eng_49_0630_usa-ger_fulltime.pdf

            Christen Press was BENCHED!

            Christen Press
            2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup
            05 Jul 2015
            USA 5 JPN 2
            Minutes Played 0

            resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/66/12/93/eng_52_0705_usa-jpn_fulltime.pdf

            Christen Press was BENCHED!

            Nevermind Christen Press started eleven of the first twelve matches for the USWNT in calendar year 2015.

            ussoccer.com/womens-national-team/lineups/2015-lineups

            ROFLMAO!

            Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

            4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
            78 caps
            2 head coaches

            Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

            garbage time
            prima donna
            selfish shot hog
            tomato cans

          • FlyingSquirrel42

            HOF, I was just joking – I think you’re unnecessarily harsh on Press, but I also just like posting videos of Joe Biden yelling “malarkey.”

          • Steglitz49

            HOFCToDi has no sense of humor but you are wise to humor him because he has ways of making you laugh.

          • HOFCToDi

            Let’s review a 18 year old teenager versus a 27 year old fraud in calendar year 2016:

            Christen Press (DOB 29 Dec 1988)
            2016 Summer Olympic Games
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 6, Shots on Goal 1
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            Mallory Pugh (DOB 29 Apr 1998)
            2016 Summer Olympic Games
            Goals 1, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 4, Shots on Goal 1
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 0, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            Christen Press (DOB 29 Dec 1988)
            2016 SheBelieves Cup
            Goals 0, Assists 0

            Mallory Pugh (DOB 29 Apr 1998)
            2016 SheBelieves Cup
            Goals 0, Assists 1

            Christen Press (DOB 29 Dec 1988)
            2016 CONCACAF Women’s Olympic Qualifying
            Knockout Stage
            Goals 0, Assists 0

            Mallory Pugh (DOB 29 Apr 1998)
            2016 CONCACAF Women’s Olympic Qualifying
            Knockout Stage
            Goals 0, Assists 2

            Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

            4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
            78 caps
            2 head coaches

            Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

            garbage time
            prima donna
            selfish shot hog
            tomato cans

          • HOFCToDi

            Sunday, 21 Feb 2016
            TSG announces CWOQ Best XI, Awards
            ussoccer.com/v~13.17/~/media/images/wnt/gallery-images/2016/02/160221-wnt-v-can/photo-gallery/160221-wnt-vs-can-photo-gallery19.jpg?h=600&w=786&la=en&hash=BF5ABEEA5BE7034EF13FA4F320F9E7BB8E549331&yocs=6_&yoloc=us

            concacaf.com/article/tsg-announces-cwoq-best-xi-awards

            By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

          • HOFCToDi

            Friday, 11 Mar 2016
            Morgan, Solo and the USA Sweep Awards at 2016 SBC
            ussoccer.com/v~13.17/~/media/images/wnt/gallery-images/2016/03/160309-wnt-v-ger/160309-wnt-vs-ger-gallery20.jpg?h=559&w=800&la=en&hash=B1A7B6E0C01C796F4C31CF422F0CC370A4D5CF89&yocs=6_&yoloc=us

            ussoccer.com/stories/2016/03/11/13/17/160311-wnt-morgan-solo-and-the-usa-sweep-awards-at-2016-shebelieves-cup

            By the way, Christen Press is not on the list.

          • HOFCToDi

            Christen Press
            2016 Summer Olympic Games
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 6, Shots on Goal 1
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            Christen Press
            2016 Rio Olympics
            12 Aug 2016
            USA 1 SWE 1
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 2, Shots on Goal 0
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 1, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            rio2016.com/en/football-womens-quarterfinal-fb-3

            Christen Press
            2016 Rio Olympics
            09 Aug 2016
            USA 2 COL 2
            Goals 0, Assists 0, Shots Attempted 4, Shots on Goal 1
            Penalty Kicks Attempted 0, Penalty Kicks Converted 0

            rio2016.com/en/football-womens-first-round-group-g-fb-5

            Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

            4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
            78 caps
            2 head coaches

            Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

            garbage time
            prima donna
            selfish shot hog
            tomato cans

          • HOFCToDi

            Summer Olympic Games
            Games Started
            Leroux – 0
            Press – 1

            Summer Olympic Games
            Minutes Played
            Leroux – 77
            Press – 123

            Summer Olympic Games
            Goals Scored
            Leroux – 1
            Press – 0

            Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

            4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
            78 caps
            2 head coaches

            Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

            garbage time
            prima donna
            selfish shot hog
            tomato cans

      • Gary Diver

        You are correct about Morgan’s injury history – I should have looked up the details before typing. But she was injury prone for most of 2014 and 2015 which is a substantial chunk of recent history.

        Part of Morgan’s problem with injuries is her willingness to sacrifice her body when the need calls for it. Her goal against Germany in SBC tournament is a good example. If Christen Press had the same courage to throw caution to the wind when the team needs a goal in an important match, Press would be valued and view more favorable. Press has scored more goals for USWNT than Sydney Leroux but Leroux scored many more important goals. Goals count, but when they are scored and who they are scored against also counts.

        • Steglitz49

          Your analysis is fair. Lyon has no reason to want to sign Christen Press.

          Since Lyon won the Champions League last season on a pso over Wolfsburg, they have let Lotta Schelin, Louisa Necib and Amandine Henry go.

          They have added Caroline Seger to their midfield. Alex would be a replacement for L8 — and Alex is also famous, which is no doubt most important in this case.

        • HOFCToDi

          Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

          4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
          78 caps
          2 head coaches

          Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

          garbage time
          prima donna
          selfish shot hog
          tomato cans

        • HOFCToDi

          Christen Press
          2016 SheBelieves Cup
          Goals 0, Assists 0

          Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

          4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
          78 caps
          2 head coaches

          Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

          garbage time
          prima donna
          selfish shot hog
          tomato cans

        • HOFCToDi

          Christen Press
          2016 CONCACAF Women’s Olympic Qualifying
          Knockout Stage
          Goals 0, Assists 0

          Christen Press is the quintessential international fraud.

          4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
          78 caps
          2 head coaches

          Christen Press has cemented her legacy with the USWNT:

          garbage time
          prima donna
          selfish shot hog
          tomato cans

        • guest

          Except Morgan’s injuries didn’t actually come from sacrificing her body in hail mary goals like that germany one. She probably just has underlying physiological issues with her ligaments (that first ACL tear doesn’t help). Press is just smarter in the way she plays.. she doesn’t take reckless challenges and she knows how to fall when she does. Watch her carefully next time. You should stop parroting trolls and form your own opinions based on carefully watching the players.

          • Steglitz49

            Lyon are negotiating with Alex. They have not shown interest in Christen.

            Time will tell which American players will be in Europe but judging by the near past, it is college seniors plus injured players rehabing.

          • ABCDE

            I generally agree that Press shows good body awareness but Alex definitely gets goals Press doesn’t because of the risks she takes. They are different players with different strengths.

          • Steglitz49

            It seems that Lyon is interested in Alex Morgan’s strengths and probably just Alex Morgan mega-star, strengths or no strengths.

    • Steglitz49

      #8. I doubt that Americans will care two figs more about Europe. As for the US, there are enough good players left.

      #7. Morgan has been loyal to the NWSL unlike some other players. Also, Lyon could lend her back over the summer.

      #6. Indeed.

      #5. Alex seems already to have passed the baton to Morgan Brian &/or Christen Press on this one.

      #4. The USWNT will play no meaningful matches in 2017 and 2018, while Lyon will.

      #3. Thank you. Verily, verily Alex is a mega-star. Alexandra the Great.

      #2. Lyon let L8 go after the Champions League final. They need a replacement for her. Blackstenius would have been cheaper but Alex has the fame. Maybe one of the Japanese U20 players would suit them too.

      #1. As HOFCToDi notes, Alex has not been so injury prone as you claim.

  • Cc W

    Good for her – professionally it may make her a better player and all of these players need to get as much money as they can when the can. I also think it is a great move to put pressure on USS.

    • Calci0

      It would be a good experience, but what do you gain bagging goals against Guingamp (the 4th place team that lost 9-1)?!?

      • Steglitz49

        Like the USWNT playing Thailand, Romania …

        • Calci0

          Which is why I’d prefer more opponents in the top 15 of the FIFA rankings.

      • Hood

        What do you gain in the 437th kick and rush training camp?

        • Calci0

          I get your point, but have you looked at the results Lyon has gotten over the years?!? The competition you face day in and day out in a USWNT camp, may well provide more of an challange, than beating the 4th best team in a league 9-1.

          • Hood

            What about the day to day training in Lyon and exciting CL games? At least it is something different. Different players, different styles, different cultures, etc

            I am pretty sure that she will continue to play NWSL (after the French season).

            Moreover it is not a done deal yet.

  • Soccer fan

    I want Alex to sign with Lyon and then I want Ada to outscore Alex by a huge margin 🙂

    • Steglitz49

      It will depend on how the coach uses them.

    • dw

      This also interests me greatly. Just this alone will provide direct comparison of the 2 forwards, and in reality will be a benchmark for comparing all forwards with the exception of those in Asia.

      • Steglitz49

        They might not play at the same time and if they did they should be helping each other.

  • guest

    basically, the lyon owner doesn’t have the money to compete with psg’s money in the french men’s league so he tries to make up for it in the french women’s league instead.

    • Kevin

      Good idea.

      • Steglitz49

        Not really. Jean-Michel Aulas has been a positive force in WoSo in Europe for 10 years or so.

        Lyon under Aulas has put a much bigger proportion of their income into their ladies than any of the other better off men’s clubs. In 2008 they bought Lotta Schelin, in 2009 Lara Dieckenmann and in 2010 Patrice Lair as coach.

        Once Aulas started to spend on the ladies the results started to roll.

        The Emir has huge money to put into PSG. It sort of succeeded for the men — not least buying Zlatan and Thiago Silva — but the Enir’s money on the ladies was essentially down the drain. Now PSG has hired Patrice Lair, the man in charge when Lyon got going.

    • guest

      better to be the champion of something than the champion of nothing.

      • Steglitz49

        Verily. Better #1 in Gaul than #2 in Rome.

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  • Gary Diver

    Off-Topic Alert: USWNT January Plans

    Only four weeks left for the USWNT players contract with USSF.

    Last year, USSF announced their January match with Ireland during the first week of December. And Ellis announced her 2016 January camp roster on December 31.

    If there is no USWNT players contract on January 1, what will Ellis do?

    • Steglitz49

      JE can call up the ones she wants and see what happens. 48h notice will do.

    • guest

      Call up scabs, one would suppose. I won’t miss any of them though, except for maybe a few faves. It’ll be interesting to see how this all plays out. Will the strikers stick together, and how long will they hold out? What is their chief demand, equal pay or their salary? Get your popcorn ready, it should be a doozy.

      • Steglitz49

        That bomb in Brasilia for sure will be expensive. Who needs experienced losers when there are enthusiastic virgins to be had, such that would walk over their grandmother’s condoms?

        • Steg Watch

          Sad to see a veteran commenter lose his mind in public. The sexual troll comments are getting more obscene.

          • Steglitz49

            What strategy do you suggest to the negotiators for the players?

            You are right about one thing. Most if not all of the grandmothers had the advantage of the OC, introduced 55 years or so ago.

            Btw, did you see Christen’s dress?

          • Guest

            I thought she looked dashing! Lovely lady indeed.

          • Steglitz49

            In some circles, that could be construed as a sexist comment …

    • kernel_thai

      First match(es) will be in Feb as a lead in to SBC. If there is no contract by Jan 1, one of three things will happen…the players will strike, the USSF will lock them out or both sides will agree to continue under the terms of the old CBA as long as talks remain fruitful. I would guess the later. If the union feels they need to strike it probably happens right before SBC.

      • Steglitz49

        Why would the USSF agree to continue on the old terms?

        The players picked a fight. Then they Bombed in Brasilia. The USSF now holds the trump. The players had better crawl to the cross and confess their sins and prostrate themselves before worse is demanded of them.

        Reality intrudes.

        • Observatio

          Ask Press. She’s still on the WNT after blowing the chance to destroy SWE in Brazil.

          • Guest

            Well she definitely had a fire lit under her butt… she has been in beast mode since her mediocre olympics.

          • Steglitz49

            Are you refering to that dress?

      • SpiritFan80

        Would think that USSF would want to do everything it can to avert a strike that would impact SBC. That may mean conceding some things to move talks forward as a show of good faith to get players union to adopt MOU to allow more time for talks to continue. If strike happens, would they bring in combo of U20’s and NWSL players to compete in SBC? No offense to any of those players, but I can’t see that turning out well against GER, FRA, and ENG. Not sure how ticket sales would go without WNT players. They have played the PR game and look much better than USSF especially to those more casual fans not willing to dig further than headlines and hashtags.

        • Steglitz49

          The players let them down in Brasilia! The very players who picked a fight.

          The USSF will hold their feet to the fire. Granted, in victory magnanimity and all that — but first the players have to recant, put their tails in the air and crawl to the cross.

    • HOFCToDi

      Chris’ 2017 NWSL Draft Big Board Top 100 – Buchanan Tops Loaded Class

      allwhitekit.com/?p=15061

      • Breakers fan

        He needs to update that list – it’s from before the current season that just ended even began. I’m guessing he will update it fairly soon.

  • wosofan

    can anyone doubt that this would improve her game? She is no longer an elite forward — her skillset seems limited nowadays, and she could use a better training environment.

    • guest

      Time will tell. I don’t think she’ll still be our best option in 2019 but I’m all for her taking advantage of opportunities, especially international ones, while she can. She has never played abroad like many of her teammates. Should be interesting to see if she adds to her game.

    • ARED

      Of course I agree it could help her game, but you believe she is not an elite forward? Who can play the big matches and score the big goals better? When USA plays France, Germany, or Japan, who do they look to (And who do you think those teams fear?).

      Morgan is still (and probably will always be) a bit raw, and inconsistent. But even so, she may be the best striker in WoSo nonetheless.

      • DNG

        I’ve never really classified Morgan as an elite forward. There are very few forwards in all of WoSo I would consider elite. I feel as if most are just good enough to be effective in the women’s game because tactically it’s still pretty far behind the men’s game. I feel as if Morgan is severely limited against all teams that set up tactically to play a disciplined low block and plan to defend for 70 minutes.

        France, Germany, and Japan are all teams that will attempt to dictate their style when playing the US which makes them vulnerable to counters by Morgan. Japan and Germany specifically vulnerable due to the lack of pace in their back line and in addition to that Japan lack the height to mark her in the air.

        I thought France successfully marked her out of the match as well at the Olympics. Mbock matched and exceeded Morgan’s athleticism and the French back line played very narrow on the break as to not let her run the channels. I didn’t think she did a particularly good job at recognizing this either and starting to show for the ball out wide either.

        In the upcoming years I think it’s important that the US starts to search for some new forwards that can challenge Morgan and Lloyd(okay I really want Lloyd gone) for starting positions. Even if they don’t succeed I’d like to see what Press, Horan and perhaps some college/NWSL players can do up top. It might turn out that Morgan may be one of the top two for another cycle or so but I want to see some experimentation.

        • ARED

          I agree with most all of your assessments. But I consider that within the context of WoSo’s somewhat low “elite” definition, Morgan would be in that group. I agree she is best in space and that is largely due to her speed and natural instinct for just doing enough to score (or break a defense and cross to Wambach in the old days). I also agree she suffers more in a tight match with an organized defensive effort, but I think she is still very useful even then.

          I’d have to rewatch that France match, but in general I find the USA’s problems come from 1) Not having as good/creative of a midfield as they should and 2) Playing Lloyd (previously it was Wambach). So, while I agree there are things to critique Morgan’s game for, I generally find those to be inconsequential when playing isolated or mis-used up top.

          I agree, Morgan should be pushed -and paired! -with Press, Horan, Pugh, Leroux, Williams, Dunn, etc, etc. Take your pick…lol. I find it a bit embarrassing for the women’s game and USWNT that it has taken so long to even see a hint of an opening to these players and even to playing with more than one striker. In the men’s game, you cannot get away with holding onto the past without at least checking if newer options are better. Over the past 3-4 years we should have seen many combinations of midfielders and forwards to show a bit more about this, but it just hasn’t happened. So I maintain that until another striker from USA or elsewhere proves otherwise, Morgan is still “elite” enough by my judgement.

  • Steglitz49

    7 more comments and we breach the 300 mark — by speculating!

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    333 comments, half the sign of the beast, if you are into numerology.

  • dw

    This might have been commented on earlier, but do you think it’s being considered to have Alex available on the 17th? Seem pretty soon, wouldn’t you think?

  • ARED

    Interesting times for WoSo, NWSL, the USWNT. With some time before the WC, we could see a pretty different picture in the world game by then, both internationally and professionally. Let’s hope it’s for the greater good overall, regardless of individual winners and losers…

  • dw

    so Lyon don’t get their deal, and lost to PSG 1-0. Curiouser and curiouser….