Spirit trade Ali Krieger to Orlando Pride

Dan Lauletta November 2, 2016 225
Ali Krieger battles Casey Short in what would be her last home game with the Spirit. Tuesday she was traded to the Orlando Pride. (photo copyright EriMacPhoto for The Equalizer)

Ali Krieger battles Casey Short in what would be her last home game with the Spirit. Tuesday she was traded to the Orlando Pride. (photo copyright EriMacPhoto for The Equalizer)

The first trade of the 2016 NWSL offseason was a blockbuster. The Spirit traded U.S. international Ali Krieger to the Orlando Pride on Tuesday, ending her four-year run with the Spirit that culminated with a trip to last month’s NWSL Championship. In return the Spirit swapped positions with the Pride in the Distribution Ranking Order.

“We’re ecstatic to get Ali Krieger to the club,” Pride coach Tom Sermanni said. “She’s one of the best players in the country. She’s extremely experienced, a great leader, great personality and a great signing for us leading into 2017. I think she’ll help both on the field and off the field. She’s a real, thorough professional so her preparation will start to influence and help our younger players. Her focus and her quality in her training and play will be a huge asset to the team.”

Distribution Ranking Order is the priority for which NWSL teams can claim players slated to enter the league being subsidized by their respective federations. The original order is the reverse of the standings of the most recent season through the conclusion of the NWSL Championship. That means the Spirit are now second in line behind the Boston Breakers while the Pride drop to ninth.

The mechanism was announced the morning of the 2016 draft but has never been used. Immediately following the announcement the Thorns traded the 3rd overall pick to the Breakers (used on Christen Westphal) in exchange for the top priority. It was expected the Thorns were going to use it on Mallory Pugh but the teen sensation opted instead to enroll at UCLA. (Ironically, Pugh wound up sitting out her freshman year in deference to the U-20 World Cup.)

Krieger was part of U.S. Soccer’s original allocation to the Spirit in January 2013. In four seasons she started in 60 of 63 regular season appearances totaling 5,269 minutes. She scored 3 goals as a Washington Spirit. The club reached the playoffs the last three seasons although Krieger did not travel for the 2015 semifinal in order to attend her father’s wedding. This year she was a surprising return to the club six days after the U.S. was eliminated from the Olympics to play in a makeup game in Houston. In the NWSL Championship she was one of three players to have her penalty saved by Sabrina D’Angelo in what was a crushing loss for the Spirit. The other two to be saved were Tori Huster and Diana Matheson, who are now the only two players from the original Spirit team still with the club.

  • Paul Klee

    For moving up in the distribution order? Krieger must have really hated it in Washington.

    • Guest

      She’s not the only one, Dunn is looking to leave too. There’s a lot of discord between players and the owner after the whole anthem situation.

    • lightcomingon

      I would say that Lynch hated having Ali Krieger on his youth soccer promotional tool, I mean Washington Spirit team.

    • guest

      she has been in a relationship with Ashlyn Harris for 6 years. I’d imagine that is part of it.

      • other guest

        I think it has more to do with Washington’s bigoted owner, to be completely honest.

        • guest

          lolllll. i guess the nba is bigoted too.

          • guest

            The NBA had an open dialogue with their players and are allowing them to express themselves in ways other than kneeling, Bill Lynch censored a player and has been called homophobic by a player who knows more about the situation than we do.

          • guest

            communication is always a good thing. but the fact remains that the nba requires all players to stand for the anthem or they get fined and they haven’t had gay prides nights either. rapinoe’s protest was in violation of nwsl rules even though they haven’t yet penalized her. i would hardly rely on the opinion of just one biased player who was the one involved in the situation. it’s just as possible that rapinoe retaliated for not getting to protest by trying to publicly defame the owner falsely.

        • Lindsey

          If that were the case then he would have made sure that several of his current players that have been there for years were dumped long ago.

          • EbaJ

            I think Dunn, D Math, Huster, Nairn, Labbe and others likely are looking at other opportunities.

          • Steglitz49

            Labbé? She played 6 successful seasons in Sweden for two teams, Piteå and Örebro. Wherever next? Terra del Fuego?

          • guest

            that’s true. if he was a bigoted owner he wouldn’t have had gay players and minorites on his team for the last four years. he would have traded them.

          • Lindsey

            We had proof before the Megan Rapinoe fiasco that he is indeed a bigot. However, I don’t think that is why she was traded.

    • EbaJ

      She didn’t ask out, she wasn’t told by the team until 5:00 PM tonight. This is about the owner and coach…..

      • Paul Klee

        Well that’s how it normally works in professional sports, unless a player has a no trade clause, they usually don’t find out about the trade until it’s a done deal. if Orlando told her about it earlier, that is very unprofessional on their part and probably violates the rules

      • eg

        This is wrong. She signed the contract with the Pride yesterday so she very much so has known since before 5pm today lol

        • guest

          not accurate as USWNT players don’t sign contracts with the NWSL teams as they don’t have a contract with the team – it is through US soccer

          • eg

            still have to sign a supplementary contract though. Things have to be signed, they don’t just show up and say “hey, you’re part of our team now.” it’s a supplementary contract, even though she still has her contract through US Soccer.

          • guest

            the uswnt players do not sign a separate contract relating to nwsl. it is simply the uswnt agreement that sets forth the terms if they play for nwsl; if traded there is no document signed as the uswnt document simply sets forth payment terms if a player plays with any nwsl team;

        • annie

          she also went to the Pride Gala this week, though she was probably also there as Harris’ date

      • guest

        and she just happened to end up on the same team as her girlfriend. seems alittle too coincidental.

      • mockmook

        BS, this was rumored for weeks — Krieger was whining that people were speculating (about what was ultimately true).

        • Steglitz49

          Was she whining about speculations about her relationship or about her move?

          It seems almost a defining difference between US WoSo and European (can’t speak for japan) but in the US setting that closet door is not just shut, it is jammed shut while in Europe it seems to be flapping on its hinges.

    • Steglitz49

      Can’t cope with the next incumbent of the White House?

  • Jen

    Her and her girlfriend are so annoying. Bigger news is Dunn leaving for Europe.

    • guest

      which team is it? lyon, psg, manchester city, bayern munich or wolfsburg?

      • guest

        europe is sooo predictable.

      • Ashley C

        Depends on what salary she’s looking for I’d imagine.

        I see Lyon is already actively courting Buchanan too. Although I predicted that during the Olympics.

      • kernel_thai

        The rumor seems to be French D1 so that gives u two choices.

        • Silver Frost

          Lyon can pay more than $200k for a USWNT player? That is the minimum salary Dunn gets for being on the WNT. Would Dunn have to give up her allocation money from USSF? I suspect so, but might be worth it if she got say $300k from Lyon.

          • Rdalford

            Dunn (or any USWNT) is not prohibited by CBA/MOU from playing in Europe and would still be on tier #1 (71K) contract but would not receive the NWSL allocation ($46k) payment. She would still also get win bonus for friendlies and other (% of ticket revenue etc) uswnt contract player financial terms. The only other restriction is IF her europe club team does not release her for USWNT duties (that may fall outside FIFA window) then her base tier #1 salary ($71K) could be prorated but would never be less than 75% of the $71K ($53.25K)

            So team in Europe perhaps only needs to make an offer that tops ($46K + $16.75k) about $63K or more to compete on $$$

          • washfan

            in light of nothing going on for uswnt in 2017 id suspect most if not all of their games will be in the window period

            if I were Dunn I take the most money whether in France or any other country as her value is up and 2017 is not much of a uswnt year; just get in the contract you can be released in the fifa windows and that should cover most of the uswnt schedule (likely) for 2016; if she misses a couple i don’t think that’s the end of the world for her

          • Steglitz49

            That makes more sense — except the CBA/MoU expires at the end of the year.

          • Rdalford

            agree that CBA expiration at end of year and no indication (yet) that USSF and players union will finalize new CBA by end of year so somewhat difficult for players and/or teams (or any of us fans) to know what rules will apply next year.

            USSF has in the past locked out players (or players went on strike) on both WNT and MNT sides when negotiations got extended but players eventually got back pay once new deals were agreed. USSF has also previously extended existing CBA terms via MOU while negotiations continued (which is how we got the current CBA/MOU situation)

            My guess (only a guess) is that some USWNT players are at least testing the overseas market and that offers of at least $75K or more might entice some USWNT players to try playing for teams in Europe with emphasis on more $$$ for stars.

            My underlying assumptions
            – that USWNT players will still get their base tier 1 contracts (even if via back pay after new CBA is done)
            – so club teams only need to offer $$$ to replace the NWSL allocation ($46K – $56K this past season)
            – and $$$ to replace the potential prorated tier contract loss ($16.75K calculated as up to 25% of $71K) which is triggered if clubs don’t release players for all USWNT callups (even those not in FIFA window)

            If clubs/players assume no tier #1 base contract
            then (my guess) is a club might need to offer $150K or more ($75 to replace tier #1 and $75 as above calc) to entice some of the USWNT players to Europe

            obvious unknowns (to me) are what USSF has proposed in new CBA regarding any requirement for USWNT to play in NWSL and/or what financial terms are being offered.
            – The calculations above are all based on current CBA/MOU terms and financials
            – which will change (but how I do not know) with new CBA.

            Will be interesting (and perhaps a hint of how CBA negotiations are proceeding) to see if any USWNT players to sign deals to play overseas (other than loan deals) in the next couple of months

          • guest

            the ussf would be foolish to allow the salaried uswnt players to play in europe instead of the nwsl they invested in under the new future cba. i would think they would want to grow their investment. especially with such a large american player pool to pick from. all uswnt players are replacable. now playing in europe would be alot more understandable if the uswnt players were pay to play instead of salaried in the new cba.

          • mockmook

            The USSF is Jekyll/Hyde towards the NWSL — hard to say where they will come down on this issue.

          • Steglitz49

            You have obviously thought a lot about this. You may well be right but US players are unliely to be as desirable and delectable to overseas clubs as before the OG.

            The harsh reality for the US players is that the NT had its worst ever major tournament. That has served to cement and underpin the impression that the US needed all that help that FIFA provided in WC-15.

            Why spend a lot of money on losers? Instead, teams may be interested in US college seniors. There are not that many WoSo teams in Europe with deep pockets. Far from it. Those that have money can get cheaper alternatives within Europe or out of Africa.

            The USSF would be studpid not to exploit their negotiating position to the hilt.

          • Rdalford

            Agree USWNT players poor OG may have reduced value but I do think that some USWNT players agents are testing the market in Europe.

            The initial USSF offer for new CBA was put on the table for negotiation before OG. I agree WNT may now have weaker position due to poor OG results but unlikely that USSF is now offerring less than whatever they offered in their initial new CBA. My guess (no inside info) is that new CBA financial arrangements end up similar to existing CBA. Hopefully someone makes financial terms of new CBA public

          • kernel_thai

            She would also get decent coaching

          • Rdalford

            very good point!

          • Steglitz49

            Why would Lyon pay $300,000 for a player whose team went out in the QF?

            Are they not more likely to pay $100,000 for Jessica Samuelsson of the team that sent Dunn packing? Heck, they could get 3 swedes for one turnip.

          • CED

            You really are not bright.

          • Steglitz49

            Enlighten me, please. I am all eyes.

          • CED

            Dunb dumb your logic is b/c a team won one game barely in PK’s they should wantt a mediocre at best player in Samuelssonn over Dunn, a dynamic player. That’s @sshat logic but expected from you. By your @sshat logic since Atletico knocked Barca out in C-league last year, Barca should dump Neymar for Fernando Torres.. Your logic is stupid beyond belief.

        • Steglitz49

          Last time I looked there were 12 teams in D1. Montpellier is the home of Sembrant and Jakobsson, for example. There is also St Etienne, Juvisy and Albi with that fortress of a cathedral, the church mighty in battle.

      • Steglitz49

        Albi, Avaldsnes, Piteå, Valencia or Yeovil Town?

      • Guest

        Or Rosengard

    • Ron Rocha

      I have felt for awhile that Dunn’s performance this year had something to do with her degree of happiness. I have watched for several years now and it is the most low key I have seen her. Not as much with the national team though. Pressure???

      • Guest

        She was also in a different position than 2015. She was wide this year, when she was racking up the goals, she was central. Plus, she missed a 5 or 6 games with the NT.

    • guest

      best news for christen press if it affects Dunn’s call ups to the NT

      • guest

        that is a very good point and press for world cup 2019.

      • CED

        2017 is a an off year. If Dunn goes abroad she will be back before Wcup quals fall 2018.

  • chive-on

    I was hoping Orlando would at least be able to get rid of Pressley. Still, their defense is now miles better.
    Good luck Washington! LOL

    • john

      Well DC already had and dropped Pressley. Doubt you could pull that off. Now Boston?

    • kernel_thai

      Pressley is a local legend in Orlando. On broadcasts they talk about her more than the players actually doing something.

    • mockmook

      Krieger can play CB — get rid of Pressley now!!!!

    • Som Termanni

      Just wait until there’s a minute where Pressley is on the field and Krieger is on the bench. No idea why it would happen, but that’d be such a Krieger-ish thing to happen.

  • hm

    What’s next, Press to the Thorns? Heath to the Red Stars?

    • Guest

      Heath isn’t going anywhere, she is one of like 2 players that seems genuinely invested in the league/city they play in…but it’s been reported that Press apparently isn’t happy in Chicago.

      • annie

        I think this is a myth. The entire chicago team is built around her. She would not have that at Portland although she is better than Nadim and Sinc at this point.

        • SMT

          and look what it’s gotten her, a bunch of individual accolades on a team that is slightly above average on a good day. She has to do all the work on that team. She also leaves as soon as she can whenever she’s not technically required to be there, even when other NT players are still with their clubs.

          • Guest

            Press said via instagram she Can’t wait until the 2017 season with the red stars and was praising/apologizing to her team for the semi final exit.

          • guest

            slightly above average seems very harsh. it seems the red stars need to adress just a couple key positions like one cb and outside mf.

          • Guest

            Press does almost all of the attacking when she’s there, and half the time she has to come way back to get the ball because their midfield, sans Colaprico, is meh. Without Press, they’re a bottom 3 team.

          • Bruce

            There’s a lot of talent on that team. There’s a reason they placed so many on the first and second XI. Upgrades on the flank – particularly on the left – is really all they need to be an offensive force.

            Press actually played CAM for about 40% of her minutes this year because Dames decided he needed DiBernardo on the left flank (DaCosta and Comeau are just that bad). Fill that hole, return DiB and CP to their natural positions and this team will soar.

          • DNG

            Colaprico, Dibernardo, Gilliland, Short, Naeher and Press were excellent last year. They struggled to score goal though throughout the year so I without a very good replacement I can’t see Chicago making the playoffs without Press. They picked up McCaffrey who can play one of the flanks but need another and another CM. Their CBs could use some improving as well. I’d see what I could get for Johnston if I was the RS management.

          • atalba

            They have Sofia Huerta. Enough said for me!

          • Steglitz49

            Amanda DaCosta will play in Euro-17 next year. She won the FAWSL1 with Liverpool Ladies. She can’t be that bad.

          • kernel_thai

            On the CB front u have to think Oyster would be high on the Red Stars shopping list. Didnt play much second half of the season for the Spirit and she’s from the Chicago area.

          • mockmook

            Naughton and JJ will provide plenty of quality at CB for 2017

            Add a flank midfielder or two, add another striker to sub for Press and McC

        • DNG

          I’d bet that Press could be even more productive playing in Portland. She can play in any NWSL team’s system and Portland are just better than Chicago at the moment. Dames would be insane to trade Press though since she scores the majority of their goals.

        • SMT

          Not saying she goes to Portland, but Press leaving Chicago wouldn’t shock me.

          • guest

            press likely wants to play in california. only problem is there is no nwsl team there yet.

          • Guest

            There will be next year probably.

          • guest

            i guess you mean 2018. i think the nwsl already came out and said expansion in 2017 is very unlikely.

          • john

            Precedent tells us “if you’ve got the money, honey”

      • Steglitz49

        She will always have Paris.

    • mockmook

      That’s a perfect trade — Press for Heath!!! 🙂

  • Guest

    So Orlando picked up Krieger for……. nothing.

  • jdee26

    Smart move by Spirit; Krieger is on the down side of her career.

    • Guest

      Bill Lynch, is that you?

    • DNG

      The smart move would have been to get something tangible in return. There’s a high probability that they get nothing for Krieger just like Portland got nothing for the 3rd overall pick last year. I suspect that Krieger had some sort of leverage and a hand in this move.

      • Paul Klee

        The only way this trade makes sense from a non personal feelings perspective is if the Spirit believe that Krieger would be losing her allocation status.

        • john

          My guess is she probably is. Of course, we don’t even know what the new CBA will be. I’m wondering if Canada will fund Matheson. I guess she gets one more year.

          • guest

            She’s still going to be allocated unless the new CBA is drastically different, she’s still a regular call up even if she rarely gets significant minutes.

          • john

            It should be drastically different and Krieger fits in a group that shouldn’t be getting paid unless they are called in. If they’re still tops leading into the WC give their status back.

          • kernel_thai

            Even if they went to a appearance fee contract like the US men have, I doubt it would have any effect on the way allocations work or that theyd be paid a set amount per season by the USSF for their NWSL service. The biggest concern is if the allocation system itself disappears from the CBA.

          • Steglitz49

            After the Bomb in Brasilia aka Miracle on Grass, the CBA may well be drastically different. This is USSF chance to realign the chairs.

          • nstarsfan

            I do wonder what Canada will do. They had three players on the Spirit and none seemed to be in favor with the coach. They were non-starters after coming back from the Olympics. I’m not sure that’s the development they’re looking for.

        • DNG

          I don’t think that make sense even if that ends up being true. She’s still a solid player with a presumably higher value than a hope and a prayer. I just can’t see anyway in which this trade wasn’t pushed through by Krieger herself. They tried to dress it up by claiming that Seattle and Portland were in for her but that she didn’t want to play on turf. I’m having a hard time buying that though given what came back(right now, nothing) to the Spirit.

          • Paul Klee

            Unless they didn’t think she was worth 40k against the salary cap. I guess I don’t want to believe that Krieger could be so petulant and bent out of shape by an owners decision to move the anthem by 10 min or as professional player needing to be by her girlfriend at all times.

          • DNG

            If they had concerns with the cap why didn’t they wait longer to get a favorable deal that brought something back to the Spirit. Maybe there’s more to it than the things you mentioned. They could have part of a bigger list of grievances. Reading the grapevine, it seems like Krieger was not the only player disenchanted with the Spirit ownership either.

          • Paul Klee

            My guess would be Ali said something like trade me to Orlando now or I’m going overseas and you’ll get nothing. That would be about her only leverage. That would be the only way that she could have vetoed a trade to another.

          • DNG

            This is pretty much what I guess happened or something similar.

          • Paul Klee

            If that’s the case Bill Lynch is a nicer guy than me.

          • Steglitz49

            Overseas? She has been there, done that and been highly successful too but that was before the Bomb in Brasilia aka Miracle on Grass.

          • EbaJ

            No way. She heard from Orlando, Spirit didn’t even call her until 5 PM.

          • DNG

            Just because the Spirit didn’t call to officially confirm she was traded does not mean she didn’t have knowledge of it prior or didn’t push it through herself. I don’t believe for one second that Krieger had no knowledge of the trade beforehand.

          • Cc W

            Yes it is hard to believe she didn’t know about it – it likely had been in the works for awhile. The rumors started what a week ago

          • Paul Klee

            So the owner and the coach thought so little of Ali Krieger that they just had to get rid of her immediately even if they got essentially nothing in return?

        • nstarsfan

          I’m wondering if it is the opposite problem. Could it be that Lynn Williams and another currently non-allocated player will be allocated and there is a limit that they would go over on allocated players. If so, they would lose her for nothing anyway. Maybe another announcement is coming that will make this make sense.

          • guest

            usually the uswnt has around 24 allocated contract players. so if one get’s added someone else will likely need to be dropped.

      • Nicole C.

        Right. It’s hard for me to believe Washington would willingly trade her for peanuts.

        • Steglitz49

          Maybe Ali wanted to move to Orlando and DC let her go? It could be that simple.

      • jdee26

        Purely hypothetical ; yet, they could get a good player with the second pick. Lynn Williams was a sixth round pick.

        • DNG

          They didn’t trade her for a draft pick. They traded her for the second position in the allocation order.

        • GT

          Not sixth round, number 6 overall (in the first round).

      • mockmook

        More BS.

        New allocations happen every year, now the Spirit get a prime pick of the new crop.

        • DNG

          Okay. What’s the crop then?

          • Paul Klee

            Non draft eligible college players that come out early after the draft and federation allocations. Possible examples Pugh and Sullivan for the US. Fleming for Canada. Also if Brazil’s soccer federation would pay some of their players and then allocate them to the aNWSL.

          • DNG

            This is what I thought it was as well not to mention they wouldn’t get the first choice at any of those players since the breakers have the first pick still I think. I don’t see much coming back for the spirit unless there is a new federation worth of allocations.

        • CED

          The list is only for players that have rights not held by NWSL teams. New allocations happen, but they are mostly for players already in the league. The list mostly is about college players in reality.

    • Bluenun

      Why ?, They don’t pay her salary. They gave up one of the best RB’s in the world and got nothing! Everybody is allocated already. There are problems with their owner. More will be leaving.

      • Steglitz49

        The US bombed out of the OG-16 with their worst record in a major tournament ever. Granted, Ali did not play in that QF but she played in the 2-2 draw with Colombia.

        • guest

          how many times do you need to repeat the same things over and over? why not find something better to do with your time?

  • kernel_thai

    Anyway, the most interesting theory Ive seen on this is from Hal Kaiser of Keepernotes. He suggested that maybe another Federation is coming on board for next year. I know both Brazil and Australia have had reported interest in the past. If the clubs know that another Fed is jumping on board then this pick is actually worth something. If not, the odds of the US allocating two new players (cause Boston gets the first) whose rights arent already controlled by an NWSL team seem pretty slim.

    • guest

      Hal is right about non-Houston woso news roughly once a year, so I wouldn’t hold your breath.

      • kernel_thai

        Well it wasnt a tip it was speculation. It does make sense that way. The only other thing that makes sense is the USSF has guaranteed that slot with have value because Dunn is leaving. Not sure how they do that unless they know two US players not already in the NWSL r going to make the team. Maybe they r allocating Campbell but they still need one more. Doubt Sullivan is dropping out of school.

        • john

          Pugh not going back in spring?

          • kernel_thai

            Boy if Pugh waited til Portland’s rights expired in Oct and then went pro ud never hear the end of it.

          • Arcie Tillydee

            Yeah, that’d go over badly (and Pugh would _certainly_ never hear the end of it from the North End). But why wouldn’t she have wanted to play here? For all it annoys some posters here, it’s the preferred destination in the league.

        • john

          Other feds, not ready to be announced, could explain Lynch’ s lack of comments.

          • kernel_thai

            And also why they did it now. When and if another fed commits those distribution spots have more value.

        • kernel_thai

          Except, I just notice Sullivan is from DC area. Maybe she leaves Stanford for her local NWSL team and a full USSF contract.

          • john

            Yes, but her family followed her to California.

          • Steglitz49

            Will they follow her to Piteå or Avaldsnes, though?

    • another guest

      If Canada and US are actually going to use the Distribution Process for new federation players coming directly out of college (Buchanan, Lawrence ? for Canada and ? for US) instead of having those players go thru draft , then perhaps the #2 distribution order position might have a value to Washington.

      • atalba

        I suspect it has to do with getting Buchanan or Lawrence. Other NT players have been drafted, but these tw might get paid starting after their last game at WVU and before the draft. This might make them ineligible as professionals for the draft, requiring them to be allocated. Pure speculation.

        • DNG

          I didn’t consider this possibility but I think Boston still has the first pick in any case. I’m also unsure if the allocation process applies to the Canadian players I thought Canada was still able to place their players on the teams they wanted last year.

          • Bruce

            Turn pro after the college season so you don’t have to play for the Breakers? Yes, please!

          • tonysocref

            Beckie was drafted by Houston before she was allocated by the CSA in 2016.
            Honestly believe that will happen with Buchanan and Lawrence.

          • DNG

            Did Beckie have a contract with Canada before the draft though? I think that is the potential hypothetical leading some people to speculate.

          • tonysocref

            She may have. Nothing was ever made public about her status. They allowed the college draft process to take place with her. Unlike the USSF, Allocation announcement was 2-3 weeks after the draft. CSA didn’t announce their allocations until the 8th of Feb.
            Not unheard of, but NWSL would have to make some major changes to the college draft rules.

          • Paul Klee

            Someone like Sullivan could just wait until after the draft then if USSOCCER offered her a contract she could turn pro forgoing her senior year and then be eligible for distribution.

          • atalba

            It’s an off year for NT. I’d be extremely surprised if Andi gave up another year Stanford. Hard to give up. Their team is mostly fr/so, so they will be just as good next year. I say no way.

          • Paul Klee

            If Stanford wins the college cup this year…..

          • atalba

            I don’t think you give up a year at Stanford. Maybe for the World Cup or Olympics. Even then, you do both. She’ll get well over 100 caps. Playing in the NWSL doesn’t match up with going to Stanford for free.

          • Steglitz49

            Hear hear!

          • kernel_thai

            Depends on how important she considers the money. Even at tier 3 she’d be making over $70K a year (assuming the CBA is similar) Lindsey Horan passed up a scholarship to UNC for less than that.

          • Steglitz49

            You sound like it depends on how stupid she or her advisors are. As for Ms Horan, we do not know how much the PSG deal was worth — and she will always have Paris and can anyway go to college as an adult.

          • kernel_thai

            Well the truth is pretty much everyone who gets drafted by the NWSL leaves school before they get their degree. Then they go back in the Fall and finish up. Just because Sullivan leaves Stanford 45 or so credits short of her degree does not mean she cant get a Stanford diploma. On the other side of the coin, u never really no how long the USWNT door remains open. U dont know what other players might pass u and there is always the fear of injuries setting ur career back.

          • Paul Klee

            You never know.

          • Forgedias

            Part of that is that Canada wants teams to want their players so they will get minutes. By drafting them they know they will actually spend an international slot for their players and as a reward they get allocated.

            We all knew Beckie and D;Angelo were going to be allocated but they were allowed to be drafted first before they were allocated. I think this is how Canada prefers to do things since they know some of their players will not get the minutes they want them to get.

        • guest

          it certainly makes the nwsl draft less interesting if it becomes a trend for the top players to get allocated before the draft happens.

  • john

    So without a CBA you’re in the queue for anybody’s guess?

    • kernel_thai

      Even if the MOU got extended again the CBA gives players the right to play overseas at specified periods.

  • dw

    Cue the “bogus trade” season. Another year and the league and the so-called media insult our intelligence again…

    • Cc W

      Yup – so bad

      • guest

        i await the results of the first portland thorns trade of the off-season.

        • Cc W

          That will be another “trade” that will shock everyone

          • dw

            Another “blockbuster”

          • Arcie Tillydee

            Perhaps…but Parsons has been talking, locally, that there aren’t really many changes he’d like to see. Replacing Kat Williamson, who’d been relegated to backup status by “the Great Wall of Emily” anyway, was really the only thing he mentioned (that is, depth at CB).

  • WosoFan11

    As a Washington Spirit fan and local, this is sad news… but we already knew it was coming. I had no idea about Dunn though.

    • Kevin

      Wait, what’s going on with Dunn?

      • WosoFan11

        From the Washington Post Soccer Insider: “Spirit attacker Crystal Dunn, the 2015 NWSL MVP who scored twice in last month’s championship defeat, is apparently seeking to move overseas. One source said Dunn is eyeing the French league. Like Krieger, Dunn is under contract with the U.S. Soccer Federation, which underwrites the NWSL by paying the salaries of marquee U.S. players.”

        Last paragraph on this article: http://wapo.st/2fvWuOL?tid=ss_sms-amp

        • Steglitz49

          There are 12 teams to chose from.

          • dw

            No Steg, there are only 2.

          • Steglitz49

            Montpellier, Juvisy and St Etienne would feel insuted, and Albi with it towering cathedral like a ship of the line, the church mighty in battle, would not be best pleased, and as for Bordeaux better known for its wines, granted.

          • guest

            let’s get serous. it can be only lyon or psg. the modern footballer is interested in collecting trophies, not in building a team into a contender. i can’t see dunn getting much playing time at lyon when they already have hegerberg and thomas up top. i have to think dunn is really only looking at psg. but psg does have cristiane up top too.

          • Steglitz49

            As far as I know, it has been an awfully long time since PSG collected a trophy of any significance.

            As for the Bomb in Brasilia, had the ref crew been competent and known the laws of the game Sweden would have won in regulation.

            The big difference between the 1-5 loss to Brazil and the QF and SF was the return of Jessica Samuelsson.

          • dw

            They can feel insulted until the les vaches come home. No WNT player is going to play in Europe with no Champions League opportunity.

          • Steglitz49

            Pick a club that has a calling card, like Linköping and Rosengård or the top two in Norway, Denmark, Russia, etc etc.

    • WosoFan11

      I should clarify – I’m happy for Ali, just sad about the local team falling apart.

      • Steglitz49

        Had they won the Championship, it may not have. Losers, weepers.

  • Ethan

    Does this mean Orlando’s central defense has gotten an upgrade?

    • mockmook

      Yes.

  • Cc W

    I get why this works for ORL and Kriegs, but how does the NWSL let a trade like this even happen? It is a joke that the trade is distribution order! NWSL needs to start acting like a professional league.

    • guest

      the applicable NWSL rules allow trading distribution ranking order positions
      the trading distribution ranking rule reads
      “Teams may trade their Distribution Ranking, provided part of the compensation received in return is the other Team’s Distribution Ranking. At all times each Team is assigned one Distribution Ranking.”

      as noted in the article, last year Boston traded their 1st distribution ranking order position to Portland for Portland’s distribution position and 3rd draft pick

      agree that unless Washington is able to use the 2nd distribution ranking order position to acquire a quality player
      then it is difficult to see trade value for Spirit

      • Cc W

        Yeah, I know, but it isn’t a serious trade – no reasonable GM would trade Kriegs for a flyer like this. That is why it is a joke

        • Arcie Tillydee

          I have to wonder if Kriegs is thinking she may be at or near the end of her allocation status? If so, she’d have some pretty big leverage (“Trade me or I’m going overseas”).

          • Cc W

            That is entirely possible – and probably then makes more sense with the distribution rights.

        • CED

          Yes, they would if they think her best days are gone. Also, she’s 32, likely few years left. Her spot on NT is not solid either, no longer a starter and not used in OG when in 1 case the situation called for it in most people’s opinion. Wash can get a young player possibly that could be allocated for many years for an aging player.

    • mockmook

      If Krieger threatens to leave the team/league, what else can you do?

      Get what you can.

  • Bruce

    “It’s unclear whether Krieger requested a trade or the team made the decision unilaterally. According to sources, she learned of the trade from the Pride, not the Spirit.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soccer-insider/wp/2016/11/02/washington-spirit-planning-to-trade-ali-krieger-to-orlando-pride/#comments

    • atalba

      Kriegs and Ash have been a thing for several years. They even played in Sweden together. No chance she wasn’t involved.

  • sandrae gunter

    Now I see Pride Trading up in the Draft… May well out Smart Boston and send them Belanger (Canadian acllocated) for No 1 pick or even Berryhill to Sky Blue for 4th… Plus Boston says they have big Roster News tomorrow

    • tonysocref

      Could be nothing more than an announcement about Engen.

      • mockmook

        The twitter tease calls it a “new” signing

        • guest

          Engen could (technically) be considered a new signing since she was previously an allocated player?

          • Steglitz49

            More likely another foreign player?

          • Bruce

            Just another re-tread from Liverpool whose game doesn’t translate to the NWSL: DaCosta.

          • Steglitz49

            Amanda played for Liverpool Ladies when they won the FAWSL1 back to back. She scored her very first goal for Liverpool Ladies at Emirates Stadium against Arsenal Ladies. Not too many young aldies can put that on their CV.

            As for Chicago? They screwed up in the QF. Meanwhile Amanda’s Portugal has qualified for their first ever Euro, just like kim Little’s Scotland.

          • mockmook

            Sure, if Boston’s management wants to lose even more credibility, they could tease a “new” signing and then announce a re-signing of an “old” player.

    • guest

      if boston trades that #1 pick in the 2017 draft, there need’s to be some sort of hostile takeover of the boston management.

    • Bruce

      Signing Amanda DaCosta – maybe the least effective CM in the league – is big roster news in Boston. Hilarious.

      • Steglitz49

        Her CV is mighty fine

  • another guest

    Orlando roster house keeping
    – appears to me that for Orlando to make roster room for Krieger that Orlando may need to waive (or not re-sign) another player to stay under 20 player roster limit?

    – from Orlando site – current roster with contract status

    Complete Orlando Pride Roster
    Laura Alleway: Option Exercised
    Josee Belanger: Federation Player
    McKenzie Berryhill: Option Exercised
    Aubrey Bledsoe: Negotiating/Pending New Contract
    Christina Burkenroad: Option Exercised
    Steph Catley: Negotiating/Pending New Contract
    Lisa De Vanna: Option Exercised
    Kristen Edmonds: Option Exercised
    Becky Edwards: Retired
    Maddy Evans: Negotiating/Pending New Contract
    Jamia Fields: Negotiating/Pending New Contract
    Sarah Hagen: Option Exercised
    Ashlyn Harris: Federation Player
    Monica Hickmann Alves: Option Exercised
    Kaylyn Kyle: Federation Player
    Cami Levin: Option Exercised
    Alex Morgan: Federation Player
    Toni Pressley: Negotiating/Pending New Contract
    Kaitlyn Savage: Placed on Re-Entry Wire
    Jasmyne Spencer: Negotiating/Pending New Contract
    Dani Weatherholt: Option Exercised
    Sam Witteman: Option Exercised

    nets out to 21 with Krieger
    – 10 players option exercised
    – 6 players offer pending for new contracts
    – 4 federation players (Morgan, Harris, Kyle & Belanger)
    + 1 federation (Krieger) player added

    • Bruce

      Who played RB this season? Evans, Levin and Belanger? Not one is nearly as good as Krieger today.

      • Steglitz49

        He! Stop hitting on Levin. Pick on someone else of the fabulous Gbg team that won the Swedish cup. HOFCToDi will help you put, if needful.

      • mockmook

        They should move Belanger forward, she’s an excellent attacker.

  • mockmook

    First, Krieger complains that people are “speculating” about a trade and should shut up.

    Then the trade happens. So, the “speculation ” was based on fact.

    These USWNT veterans have such big heads now it is ridiculous.

    I hope these idiots go on strike.

    • guest

      she told people to shut up? wow. i still contend it started going down hill right after the ticker tape parade.

      • mockmook

        She didn’t use the words “shut up” but that was the gist — she said something like people on the internet who don’t know what they are talking about should stop writing about her.

        • Steglitz49

          To be fair, if you have gotten to 32 and not found your life’s partner, you can either accept status quo or get your skates on but nevertheless it must be irritating to have to read all sorts of bottomfeeders and lowlife speculating negatively about you.

          • sudeep das

            “…if you have gotten to 32 and not found your life’s partner” – good point

          • anon

            it’s not a good point, no. and she is in a very long term relationship. dumb homophobic male trolls.

          • annie

            not to mention misogynistic.

          • Steglitz49

            Please register yourself so we can follow your comment. “Partner” covers both sexes. You chose or, rather, Ali does.

          • sudeep das

            Unbelievable that people can pile on terminologies without looking at the whole picture. So from dumb homophobic male troll to being a misogynist I seem to have covered the entire gamut of expressions.

          • Steglitz49

            Thank you.

            It is sad that commentators on the EQ use references to lesbianism either to slur players and demean them or to criticize other commentators with whose views they do not agree.

            Possibly the best example of negative connotation is the friendship between Heath and Press where commentators are not interested in the happiness of either or both of those but merely want to give them a label of deviancy, which is totally undeserved.

          • htm222

            deviancy? you are a terrible person. find something better to do with your life please.

          • Steglitz49

            Readingcomprehension does not seem your strong suit. Please read again and understand.

          • guest

            i have noticed some women’s soccer players and fans are very quick to accuse people of those words. makes me think they are more intolerant than the people they are accusing.

          • sudeep das

            Hey – go easy with your “holier than thou” attitude; it’s very easy to insult others without knowing the facts. Don’t think Krieger has come out officially. If she has then I have missed it – this explains my comment.

          • Steglitz49

            “Partner” is sex neutral and covers both genders.

          • Steglitz49

            Please register yourself so we can follow your comments.

            “Partner” is gender neutral that is, can be either sex.

          • Steglitz49

            Thank you.

          • htm222

            you must end each day with a real sense of accomplishment, knowing that you spent the bulk of your hours making insulting sexist comments on a womens soccer board.

          • Steglitz49

            Why don’t you vent your spleen over the outrageous list that FIFA has compiled. Dung would be a polite word to describe it.

  • Ashley C

    "I don't have any thoughts, because I just heard it from you, now." #CanWNT Matheson on Labbe, Krieger, Dunn, perhaps leaving #Spirit. #NWSL— Har Journalist (@HarJournalist) November 2, 2016

    • Bruce

      And this is how the wheels fall of the bus…

      • Steglitz49

        A parked bus is a mighty fine thing, wheels or no wheels.

    • Steglitz49

      Read their CVs before you throw them under the bus, please.

  • WosoFan11

    Since Washington Spirit lost Krieger and potentially may be losing Dunn… here’s to hoping Andi Sullivan will come back to her home town and join the Spirit after her run at Stanford. *Fingers crossed*

    • Steglitz49

      He! Respect, please!! On whose side are you? the bottomfeeders’s?

      Sweden had their worst ever defeat in the gropu stage. They came back to reach the final, losing on an own goal. Their reward?

      Sweden gets 1 in the shortlist, just like the US and Brazil, and Canada and Japan.

      Why bother to either play WoSo or watch it?

      • WosoFan11

        I don’t understand what you are saying here and/or the point you are trying to make? Of course I’ll still root for them no matter who is on the team, but what’s wrong with wanting a USWNT player to be on my local team? (Confused what this has to do with “bottomfeeders” or Sweden)

        • Steglitz49

          I feel insulted — “almost as annoying as …” — we can agree on this: why do US players not simply come out of the closet? It would make life easier for the heteros among them.

          • sudeep das

            And spare fans of the game like me getting abused as homophobic and misogynist

          • Steglitz49

            Seeing that many players drop their kit and pose in the buff for personal pain, why not also be above board with their lifestyles when everything else is there to see?

        • Arcie Tillydee

          Never a bad move to put that one on Block. Just sayin’…

          • Steglitz49

            Your reading of the EQ must be jolly boring if you block everyone with whom you disagree.

  • newsouth

    please do not send press to portland. the gossip is already unbearable. seattle is a perfect combination

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpc-TfSHGcs

    • Bruce

      Never enough Stacy Lattisaw. +1

    • Steglitz49

      What gossip? Bottomfeeders, snakes, lowlife and other inadequates will always be with us. Three cheers for those who acknowledge their loves!

    • Arcie Tillydee

      Kind of hard to see who the Thorns woudl give up for her, actually. I can’t thiunk of a straight-up trade that makes sense, although some sort of three-way trade might work. Maybe.

      But the players I could see as direct replacements for her position and play style aren’t at her trade value.