Wambach arrested for driving under influence

The Equalizer Staff April 3, 2016 260
Abby Wambach was arrested for DUII on Sunday morning. (Photo Copyright Patricia Giobetti for The Equalizer)

Abby Wambach was arrested for DUII on Sunday morning. (Photo Copyright Patricia Giobetti for The Equalizer)

Retired United States women’s national team legend Abby Wambach was arrested early Sunday morning in Portland, Ore., for driving under the influence of intoxicants (DUII).

Multnoham County Sheriff records show that the 35-year-old Wambach was booked at 2:02 a.m. local time in Portland. She has been released on recognization. Wambach lives in Portland.

Portland police Sgt. Peter Simpson told the Associated Press in a statement Sunday that a sergeant stopped the 35-year-old Wambach Saturday night after she reportedly ran a red light in her Range Rover near downtown. Simpson said Wambach failed field sobriety tests and was arrested. He said that Wambach also failed a breath test at the police precinct.

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Wambach released a statement on her Facebook page on Sunday saying that she takes “full responsibility” for what happened”

“Last night I was arrested for DUII in Portland after dinner at a friend’s house.

Those that know me, know that I have always demanded excellence from myself. I have let myself and others down.

I take full responsibility for my actions. This is all on me. I promise that I will do whatever it takes to ensure that my horrible mistake is never repeated.

I am so sorry to my family, friends, fans and those that look to follow a better example.”

A DUII in Oregon is treated the same as and more commonly known as a DUI; the state treats driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol as the same offense. The charge is a misdemeanor in Oregon.

A first-time DUII offender in Oregon is subject to a license suspension of at least 90 days and up to two years. First-offense convictions in Oregon carry a minimum incarceration of two days and a maximum of one year.

Car company MINI USA, for which Wambach is an endorser, already says that it is “re-evaluating” its association with Wambach and it is pulling Wambach-focused ads from its marketing campaign.

“This behavior is against the values we promote as an organization and the safety of everyone on the road is a priority here at MINI. Because of this, we are re-evaluating her association with the brand and are pulling content that individually features Abby from our marketing,” the company said in a statement. “We will continue to assess the situation and weigh our options.”

Wambach retired in December as the world’s all-time leading goal scorer with 184 goals. She helped the U.S. women win the 2015 World Cup in July and won the 2012 FIFA Women’s World Player of the Year award. Wambach also helped the U.S. win Olympic gold medals in 2004 and 2012.

Since retiring, Wambach has stated her intent to change the world, already appearing at the U.N. and in Zurich as part of FIFA’s initiatives to advance women’s soccer.

  • AEGYPTI BRASILEIRO

    Wambach is the new Solo hahahahahahhahahahahhahhaha ( Daniela Alves’s laughs)

    • JL

      GTFO, troll.

      • MARTA IS BETTER THAN USWNT

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • Cc W

    Poor decision by Abby. We likely all have made this mistake, but it is a good reminder that it isn’t worth it.

    • Steglitz49

      Some people don’t drink at all.

      • Typy McTyper

        Some people ought to try it. Might take the edge off. Not to mention–ahem–slow their responses…

        • Steglitz49

          The very first sports disqualification for doping was because someone had drunk a beer.

    • NYRick

      Huh? We all have likely made this mistake?? Are you implying that all of us have driven drunk at some point in our lives? I highly doubt that. In this age of political correctness, most responsible people know that is near the top of the list what you can’t do in society. There is no sympathy for it. Nor should there be. And I’m not being preachy about it. Just selfish and reckless.

      • JL

        It was. I’m not defending her actions in any way, and she should face the proper consequences for them. Luckily no one was injured, and hopefully she has learned her lesson.

      • Cc W

        No, I’m not defending it at all.

      • mockmook

        While I’m certain your life has been one of perfect rectitude.

      • Lorehead

        I haven’t (I had a drink today when I watched the Timbers, but I didn’t drive afterwards). And it’s serious, but not unforgivable if she learns from it like McCall Zerboni did. I’m just glad nobody got hurt.

  • abbyb

    no longer a role model

    • Steglitz49

      Still a goat?

      • newsouth

        nobody cares if shes a goat, shes couldve killed someone…

        • Steglitz49

          even mor reason to call Northug’s lawyer

          • guest

            she is now an ass.

          • Steglitz49

            Gocart, Goatcart, Donkeycart?

          • newsouth

            i didn’t post that.

          • Steglitz49

            Call him anyway. Why stand on ceremony?

          • Lorehead

            Do we have an identity thief?

  • Paul Klee

    Well she’s lucky that apparently no one was hurt. Hopefully, she will now have learned not to get behind The wheel when under the influence. For most people after getting stopped the first time for DUI, they never drive drunk or wasted again.

    • Lord_Littlefingers_Lash

      Well that sounds like bullshit. they never drive drunk again or they never get arrested again?

      ….Anyway, not surprised, abby “likes to drink”…
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjqRK8XxNUk

      • Paul Klee

        Most people don’t drive drunk again. A few do and these people are the real dangers they need to be removed from the streets. Though, again most who get busted for First time DUI realize how lucky they were not to kill anyone. I pray Abby Wambach falls into this group.

        • Lord_Littlefingers_Lash

          yeah, do you have any evidence to support this statement because I know many people who DUI’s, mostly in college and high school and they all did it again, more over they did it all the time before they got the DUI because the odds the of getting arrested in the first place were so incredibly low, based on those low odds, those people weren’t arrested again and as we go older heavy drinking every friday and saturday night became less and less frequent. They still probably drive drunk from time to time, its just that now it’s once a year when they had one too many drink at dinner with their spouse and they drive home when the are over the legal limit.

        • Ashley C

          This is factually incorrect. Google DUI repeat offenders and you’ll see sad statistics disputing your statements. Don’t leave irresponsible comments like this.

          • Steglitz49

            hear hear!

          • Gary Diver

            It goes to show that some days you are better off just staying in bed.

          • Steglitz49

            It is not as if she can’t afford to take a taxi.

          • Paul Klee

            It actually would be incumbent upon you to find facts that dispute my statement. Please show me the stats that support your assertion that the majority of people arrested/convicted of DUI offenses are repeat offenders.

          • Lord_Littlefingers_Lash

            no you’re the one who asserted a fact. I’d be genuinely interested to see any evidence supporting this statement. I don’t know how it could possibly be gathered, unless it referred rearrests. But it sounds completely improbable based on both my personal experience and general observation. There are a lot of places in this country where drinking and driving are a way of life and the police are specifically instructed not to arrest the citizens in the first place.George W. Bush didn’t stop hitting the sause until his dad well into his vice preidential term…the second term.

          • Paul Klee

            My reply was not to your post.

        • GWS Jr.

          Ignore the idiot Ashley C. Such a little shrew. In 2001 I was arrested for DUI and I outright beat it in court as I wasn’t drunk. However, I haven’t had a drink since 2003. Since I AM part of that statistic I will speak to what I know. In my case, you’re right. It just wasn’t worth the chance. Reading Ashley C’s holier than thou comments makes me want a drink, though.

  • David K Anderson

    Now I’m curious if this was alcohol or weed. Not okay to drive under the influence of either, obviously, but I kinda want to know which it was. The timing makes me think the former: bars close at 2AM here.

    • Tikitaka

      Other articles have alluded to her failing a breathalyzer and other sobriety tests. It was alcohol, not weed.

      • guest

        she should have called hope to give her a ride home.

        • Nancy

          Yes…in a team vehicle!

      • x

        Could be both, no?

        • T. Totaler

          In Portland? Surely you jest!

  • Steglitz49

    Quick! Call Petter Northug’s lawyer. Mind you, she is not active anymore, so why bother.

  • newsouth

    i’m staying away from this article because of my trolls and haters.

    • Steglitz49

      “Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
      In the forests of the night;
      What immortal hand or eye,
      Could frame thy fearful symmetry?”

      “Goat, goat, paling dull,
      etc

  • ruarc

    Damn it, Abby.

    • Gary Diver

      The moral of the story: don’t be a role model and drink and drive.

      • Nicole C.

        Real moral of the story: Don’t drink and drive regardless.

        • Gary Diver

          Actually there are two morals of the story: Don’t drink and drive. And if you are a celebrity, somebody is always watching.

          • Steglitz49

            The first is a moral.
            The second is smart advice.

  • Ashley C

    How selfish and irresponsible. Anyone finding a way to defend her needs to rethink everything.

    • Steglitz49

      She can always pawn that WC winners medal, can’t she?

    • GWS Jr.

      How selfish and irresponsible of you to castigate anyone who chooses to defend her as a human who made a mistake. By all accounts thus far, Abby is a decent human. If we comb through YOUR life what might we find? Exactly. Moron.

      • Guest

        Much different situation. Abby Wambach is a public figure with a significant following. With that comes a responsibility. Attacking random posters on this site does not take away from what happened.

        • GWS Jr.

          I do believe you’d know if I was attacking someone. It would behoove you to know when someone is being assertive. She’s still a human. Just because she’s a public figure doesn’t mean she should be crucified any more than she should be treated better in court than a nobody. I will say something when people who live in glass houses throw stones. If you have kids and do something stupid, that’s WAY more signifigant than her fans. Just about every adult under 60 in this country has unknowingly committed a felony. Carry narcotic
          medication outside of its labeled bottle? Wife’s tooth hurt and you give her a hydrocodone or muscle relaxer? Carrying Tylenol outside the bottle is considered a misdemeanor charge of dangerous drugs. Abby got a misdemeanor. Cut her some slack. People have been kind enough to forgive me for my mistakes, maybe you should try to do that for others. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Otherwise, STFU.

          • Guest

            You need to relax. There is a difference between carrying Tylenol in the wrong bottle and driving drunk and running red lights. If you don’t know the difference, one could have killed someone. And someone who has the following and platform that she has needs to be more aware and conscious of her actions since she has the following that she has.

          • guest

            you can ask for forgiveness. and you can hope for forgiveness. but you can’t hurry forgiveness. it comes when it’s ready.

          • Steglitz49

            It may never come.

  • smallchief

    Maybe Abby and Hope can attend the same rehab clinic?

    If a DUI in Portland is anything like it is where I live, Abby will be forced to suffer all sort of indignities. .

    • Steglitz49

      She has not been found guilty yet, I presume.

      • NYRick

        She failed the field sobriety tests at the scene. She’s guilty and she’s not getting out of that.

        • Steglitz49

          Does it not depend on the alcohol level in her breath test or blood?

          • NYRick

            I guess that’s what “failed the test” means. They obviously have levels you can’t reach.

          • Steglitz49

            I though that field sobrirery test was finger to nose while standing on one foot with your eyes shut singing the International.

          • NYRick

            I think the article above says breath test too.

          • Steglitz49

            Fair enough. But, what does “failing mean”. If she is at 0.5 then a good lawyer should be able to get her off.

            Maybe she dreams she is akin to Petter Northug?

          • tonysocref

            In Oregon, anything 0.8 or higher is a failed test. Reports indicated she failed both the field test and test conducted at the jail.

          • gues

            don’t you know who i am??? i am abby f’ing wambach!!!

        • Looking at her mug shot and how blood shot her eyes are, she looks a lot more intoxicated than “dinner at a friends house” levels. Would it have been so hard for her to crash on said friends couch? Why do I feel like there is more to this story.

  • Steglitz49

    On a more positive note, the QFs of the FA women’s Cup have been played:
    — Manchester City 2-0 Sporting Club Albion (Att: 1,270)
    — Sunderland 3-0 Reading (Att: 407)
    — Chelsea 6-0 Aston Villa (Att: 1,147)
    — Arsenal 2-2 Notts County (aet, Arsenal won 3-2 on penalties)

    • guest

      If they can’t be bothered, why should we?

      • Steglitz49

        The final will be played at Wembley. Children get in free. The match is live on the BBC.

        You do not need to bother but the ladies who reach the final will have a whale of a day, as will the fans.

    • Tom F

      big upset in the German Cup semis, FC Sand 2 Bayern Munich 1. Apparently money can’t buy everything!

      • Steglitz49

        They lost to Twente in the Champions League!

        Can’t seem to hack it when it counts — like Seattle.

    • MurderOnZidanesFloor

      Van Veenendaal with 3 penalty stops to get Arsenal through.

      https://twitter.com/priceyd101/status/716689422096457729

      Add that to her stop last week from Asllani.

      https://twitter.com/Jigsawwill/status/714491050371465216

      At 26 if she can carry on this way she might end up as one of the best goalkeepers in the world.

  • Movement

    Wambach used to drink a lot when she was in college playing for the Gators.
    You just wonder how many times she operated a vehicle shortly after sharing a few fishbowls with her teammates.

    http://www.tablespoon.com/-/media/Images/Articles/PostImages/2015/03/week2/2015-03-03-winter-luau-09-fishbowl-punch.jpg

  • NYRick

    Running the red light is what really pisses me off. That’s obviously how an innocent person gets killed.

    The warning signs have been there with her for a long time. The first thing she said when being interviewed after her last game was something to the effect of, “Look out Bourbon St.” Hope she gets the necessary help. Adjusting from star to everywoman is not easy for a sports celebrity. I said on here often that she didn’t want the ever leave the scene. I don’t think she would or will ever be just content with being Abby Wambach.

    I guess she wasn’t kidding when she said, “forget me.”

    • Cc W

      Yes, the red light is the worst part of it! She is lucky that she didn’t hit someone.
      People make bad choices everyday – if you are in the public eye, you get all the glory, but also all the attention if you make this type of boneheaded choice.

      • Lorehead

        She’s donating her brain to science; I hope she didn’t do it a little early.

    • mskillens

      Please calm down… nobody thinks Gronkowski or that Manziel guy are alcoholics and I’m pretty sure they are worse than Abby. Leave her alone, she’s always been a typical jock.

      • NYRick

        Manziel has basically kissed away his career in a short time. Definite alcoholic and a time bomb that will go off at any time. Cleveland didn’t do their homework on the guy. They were warned.

        Gronk dancing shirtless like a madman in discos after an SB loss to the Giants was Youtube fodder. He’s a got a problem with drink, but his stardom will protect him for awhile.

        Abby screwed up. It didn’t take long.

        • guest

          The fact that it took Abby this long to screw up is surprising to be perfectly honest. There have been quite a few videos of her drunk in public over the years.

    • GWS Jr.

      You raise some cogent points, but as someone who drives around a major city with 100,000lb + equipment I see PLENTY OF SOBER DRIVERS doing WAY WORSE than I ever see on a Friday or Saturday night.

  • Movement

    I hate to say it, but Abby is now “more qualified” to be president of the United States after this incident. Our presidents either love to drink and/or smoke weed. Bush and Clinton would love to endorse her now.

  • NYRick

    Just curious. If she was still on the team and this happened, how would Ellis handle it? Or let’s say this happened last April before the June WC? I think the corrupt and political USSF would not have suspended her from the team and she would have played at the WC.

    • guest

      They would have had to suspend her because they were still dealing with all of Solo’s continued bs. She wouldn’t have missed the WC but she would have missed a game or two, just like Solo was never really in danger of missing the WC.

      • NYRick

        In my opinion Solo should not have been allowed to play at the WC after two incidents she had the previous year. You are right, Abby would have just missed a game or two with this infraction but it is the wrong message for a national team. For a club team, they can do what they want. For a national team they are playing for more and representing more. The morale clauses have to carry more weight. They don’t for the stars of this program.

        • guest

          Solo should absolutely be long gone from the program. She has no right to represent the country considering her numerous run-ins with the law. The continuous praise for her on field contributions is such a poor way of handling her numerous off field issues. As a Reign supporter, I’m disappointed to have to continue to deal with her presence at my club as well.

          • NYRick

            If Harris or Naeher did the same things as Hope did the previous year before the WC, they were off the team for good. We know this. No sense of rehashing it. The USSF felt they needed her to win. She is one of their stars. Stars get special treatment in this program.

          • Steglitz49

            How is Hope relevant to this unfortunate incident?

          • Lorehead

            Or, really, how is USSF relevant? She’s retired. She doesn’t work for them any more. They aren’t involved and there’s no action they need to take. Speculation about what they might have done in hypothetical cases is pointless.

          • Steglitz49

            Thank you. My point, obliquely granted.

          • guest

            i’m sure the ussf is second-guessing their decision now in light of recent events. they had their chance.

          • Steglitz49

            As far as I know, Hope has not sloped off to a wedding instead of playing a SF for her club.

          • Lorehead

            No, but she did miss a team plane to get into a drunken brawl with her sister and nephew.

          • Steglitz49

            Not quite the same, is it?

          • Lorehead

            No. No, it is not.

          • Steglitz49

            We have just learnt that the WC winning WNT players probably cleared >$300,000 last year. The top NWSL salary is a little bit more than 10% of that while the lowest paid got about 2% or 1/50th.

          • Lorehead

            We’ll find out when the USSF releases its 2016 Form 990.

          • Gary Diver

            I don’t think anybody will deny that the pay discrepancy between USWNT players and non-NT NWSL players is a major problem that needs to be addressed. How and when it is addressed is the $50,000 question.

            Women soccer has a multitude of issues needing attention and the pay discrepancy between NT and non-NT NWSL players is just one of those issues.

          • Rufan

            The low salaries will be addressed when and if the club coaches start complaining that they cannot fill out full rosters with players that are up to the skill level needed to be competitive in the league as a result of too many skilled players leaving the league or sport due to the low pay.

          • Steglitz49

            iow never

          • Lorehead

            Paul Riley did complain the salaries are too low. But that won’t be the issue, exactly; all the other teams have the same problem, so they’ll all still be competitive.

          • Rufan

            After ’13 season, Portland got rid of its original “free agent” Americans, including by waiving Marshall, and used the savings to get Angerer.

    • Gary Diver

      It is an interesting question, but it would be a nightmare for those responsible for dealing with it. I am glad it isn’t me. What would you do if you had to make the decision?

      • NYRick

        If it happened in April before the June WC, she is suspended indefinitely and (for me) would not be allowed to play at the WC. If it happened the previous April before the WC and got the necessary treatment and help and was an upright citizen then I allow her to play at the WC. Also, this has nothing to do with it being Abby for me. Many on here know that I was not her biggest fan. But I would feel the same way if it was any player the April before the June WC. They are off the team indefinitely (at the very least for 6 months).

        • Gary Diver

          I think your approach is very reasonable. One problem in situations like this is that players are often treated differently depending on who they are or how important they are to the team’s success.

          • Steglitz49

            Late in 2014 Petter Northug crashed his car. At first he tried to get away with it but in the end his lawyer cut a deal. Petter did not contest the charges and in return the courts let him start his mandatory period in ankle braclet after the World Championships in Falun in 2015.

            Petter won Norway 4 gold medals: the sprint, the pair sprint, the relay and the 50 km. Those were the only male gold medals that Norway won. Thank goodness for understanding judges.

      • Steglitz49

        An NT player could not be bothered to play for her team in their Championship Semi-Final but many fans of WoSo contend that this was OK behavior. When I consider that it sets WoSo back in its struggles, I get lambasted.

        • Lorehead

          Personally, I just wonder why you keep bringing it up over and over in situations where it’s not relevant.

      • how deep is your love?

        The question is what would Rick do if it was Press. He hates Abby so that’s not really a test. Would he kick Press to the kerb? Now that’s the situation we need to hear from him about.

    • guest

      if it happened to alex morgan, would she still start the next game?

      • Steglitz49

        Does Alex drink? Kenny Dalgleish does not and never did.

        • htm222

          alex and ms. o’hara are the party girls of the USWNT. friends of mine have run into kelley at bars and said she was sloppy. lol.. can’t fight those irish genes.

          • Steglitz49

            Alex got hitched and high time for KO to settle down too.

      • Gary Diver

        As I mentioned below, treating different players differently for the same offense is not fair and creates morale problems for the rest of the team. I think it is the responsibility of the coaching staff to create a code of behavior that includes explicit penalties. Treating misbehaviour on a case by case basis is asking for further trouble.

      • another guest

        If the moon was made of barbeque spare ribs, would you eat them?

    • Lorehead

      We’ll never know. But, seriously, you think the USSF is going to cut the stars of the USWNT a lot of slack right now?

      • Steglitz49

        Touché! Verily and forsooth. They would be laughing all the way to the bank.

  • guest

    i wonder if this will affect abby wambach’s changes of becoming president of the united states in the future

    • Steglitz49

      She is campaigning for Mrs Bill.

      • gues

        but i guess it won’t hurt her changes of becoming the future fifa president.

        • Steglitz49

          The current president is 46 years old, not that much older than her highness.

    • Lorehead

      No, George W. Bush also had an arrest for DUI. Joe Biden is a recovering alcoholic, too. But it did stop Ted Kennedy.

      • Gary Diver

        Ted’s big problem was that didn’t have an answer when Roger Mudd asked him why he was running for the presidency.

        • Lorehead

          His defeat was overdetermined.

        • x

          Thought Ted’s big problem was Chappaquiddick.

          • Steglitz49

            Hear hear!

          • Gary Diver

            Chappaquiddick should have been his Waterloo, but it wasn’t. He dodged a bullet on that one. Boy, doesn’t that bring back memories:) I guess we are all older than we care to admit.

          • Steglitz49

            Can’t beat money, influence and good lawyers (which money buys).

  • JD

    Off topic but I read that only 50% of tickets for the Olympics have been sold so far, way down from London. I wonder how the women’s soccer tournament will fair.

    • Gary Diver

      It may depend on
      1. whether corruption in Brazil screws the Olympics
      2. whether the Brazilian president gets impeached and the following fallout
      3. whether the Zika virus situation gets better or worse. Apparently some of the stadiums are near the rain forest.

      • Steglitz49

        #3 I accept but do the other two matter?

        • Gary Diver

          You may be right. God, what were they thinking when they gave the Olympics to Brazil?

          • Miami66

            Read an article and apparently at the time (2009) they were doing better, but things have gone downhill. I’m sure the cost of hosting both the World Cup & Olympics without having the infrastructure already didn’t help to begin with though.

      • kevin

        the manaus stadium is located right in the middle of the amazon. that would be a suicide mission.

  • Gary Diver

    This proves that the old saying, “no publicity is bad publicity” is not true.

    • Steglitz49

      I thought that it was “all publicity is good publicity” or “any publicity is worth having” or “there is nothing worse than being talked about except not being talked about”.

      • Gary Diver

        There is no such thing as bad publicity except your own obituary. – Brendan Behan

        The Irish always have a way with words.

        • Steglitz49

          and also with drink.

          • Gary Diver

            Apparently Behan drank himself to death at age 41!

    • Lorehead

      It surely means the end of her “This is a gay car!” endorsement deal. In the long run? Right on the heels of her former teammates’ EEOC complaint, this is newsworthy and memorable, and after she’s paid her debt and been forgiven, it might help keep her in the public eye.

  • F0OtballNowAndAlways

    We don’t need an article on Wambach. Her time has passed. What we need is a review of yesterday’s match between the Thorns and Dash and answers to some urgent questions, to wit:

    1. Why didn’t Franch get a red for the PK foul?

    2. Why didn’t Henninger parry rather trying to hold on to Pratt’s shot, the one that came in something fierce?

    3. What is it with all these low shots that skip along the turf, kind of look easy, seem to have indeterminate pace, appear to take forever to reach goal, but end up beating goalies, like we saw against Thorns yesterday?

    4. How did Sinclair catch up with Mia with such inadequate finishing?

    5. How is Pratt not a draftee?

    6. How did Brynjarsdottir lose out on the Herman award to Morgan “I have a slight injury therefore I have to blow off my commitment to the Dash so as not to jeopardize the NT’s prospects, because you know, they can’t possibly win without me”? P.S. Brian was injured before the NTers departed for the friendly with Colombia.

    7. How is Ohai not on the NT?

    8. Contrary to the popular perception that goalkeeping is woso’s weakest areas, I think finishing is actually more dysfunctional. So who will be a good sport and start a different kind of finishing school for girls, the one that teaches them how to score from gilded opportunities?

    An inquiring mind wants to know.

    • Guest

      I was more impressed with Daly than Ohai. Brynjarsdottir has not looked anywhere near as good as Brian to me in the three matched I have watched her play for the Thorns. The shot and poor keeping that led to Dagny’s goal was the only thing of note I saw from Pratt in the three games. Sinclair’s time is pretty much over. Franch was awful on both dash goals but the defending on the second was equally woeful.

      • Paul Klee

        Sinclair’s finishing leaves something to be desired. But her distribution from the pseudo-10 position she was playing last night was exceptional IMHO.

        • Paul Klee

          I wish Carli could distribute like that.

          • Guesting

            Amen to that!

          • guest

            you did it now. just wait till the linkmaster get’s here.

          • Kevin

            LOL… Linkmaster. I love it.

            I’m sure he’ll post some more links to erroneous and irrelevant stats that have no correlation to the subject, as always.

          • Lorehead

            Did you know that a player had no goals in minutes she sat on the bench?

          • Kevin

            LOL. That almost never happens.

            Did you know that 1 goal in 1000 minutes is better than 1 goal in 200 minutes?

          • Steglitz49

            It depends on the goal, does it not?

          • Kevin

            Not according to the Linkmaster. A PK against the #108 team in the world is equally as impressive to him as Alex Morgan’s beautiful goal against Germany last month.

        • Guest

          The Thorns already have options at the 10 in Dagny and Long once Henry arrives. Sinclair’s distribution is very good but I don’t think it makes up for her lack of mobility at this point in her career or poor finishing. It appears to me that she can no longer create separation between herself and her defenders which resulted in her taking a lot of long range shots in these three games. She had difficulty getting lift on her header in the Seattle game. The Thorns have 2 of the best chance creators in the league in Heath and Klingenberg. What they really need is a couple of consistent goal scorers.

          • Gary Diver

            Sinclair is approaching 33 years old and as they say, “Mother Time waits for no woman”. Carli, on the other hand, is approaching 34 years old.

    • Gary Diver

      I live in Canada and I can’t understand the hero-worshipping of Christine Sinclair. Is she one of the all-time greatest players? When she passes Wambach we will forever have to deal with that question.

      • Steglitz49

        As long as she does not dui, she will be OK.

    • JL

      1. Because it looked like she wasn’t the last defender. There was coverage if Daly got past her. PK and a yellow was fair.

      2. A shot hit with pace like Pratt’s was is more difficult to hold onto.

      4. Sinclair used to be one of the most clinical finishers in the game. And for years she was the only one on the CanWNT that could finish more than once in a blue moon.

      5. Pratt was a draftee- last year. She was picked in the third round by SkyBlue, but wasn’t signed and only played once as an amateur.

      7. Finishing. That was probably the one thing that kept her off the NT.

      • Ethan

        1) Was there only one defender back on coverage? Because if there was only one defender and Daly had a good enough angle, then it’s easily a red card. If Daly had gotten past a defender with only Franch ahead, there would definitely be a red card. It’s even more deserving of a red if the only coverage is a defender who can’t use her hands.

        • tonysocref

          Referees should consider the following circumstances when deciding whether to send off a player for denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity:
          •the distance between the offence and the goal
          •the likelihood of keeping or gaining control of the ball
          •the direction of the play
          •the location and number of defenders
          •the offence which denies an opponent an obvious goal scoring opportunity may be an offence that incurs a direct free kick or an indirect free kick
          In this case the foul was located in the corner of the 18 yard box (not center), there we 2 defenders in the area, she was headed towards the end line and just before she was taken down she attempted to move to the outside away from goal.
          Yellow yes. Red no

          • Ethan

            Agree to disagree. If she wasn’t tripped, she would have gotten to the ball with a fairly decent angle, not off balance, and Williamson and Menges not in great positions to stop a decently paced shot. That’s a red for me.

            Edit: I also don’t think she was moving away from goal. Her touch didn’t take her away from goal in my opinion.

      • Terry Lash

        Pratt is speedy, but her technical skills are subpar. Can the Thorns develop her into a better player? Maybe, but it will take work and patience.

    • Riveter

      I’m tempted to say Thorns are mediocre, but both teams lacked NT players. I’m waiting for Amandine and Heath to get back.

      • Terry Lash

        Looks like the Thorns are underperforming again. I expected more from Parsons.

        • Guest

          Sinclair is not the player she was 4 years ago. The Thorns need to play Nadim as their primary striker and should think about starting AL as their starting 10 when Henry arrives.

          • Terry Lash

            I agree with you. Sinclair is no longer a starter, and Nadim is the best player on the Thorns to play a central attacking role. Nadim cannot be expected to shoulder the scoring burden, however. There needs to be scoring by midfielders, and the Thorns could use another striker as well.

          • Guest

            Allie Long scored 10 goals last year and looked good in a deeper-lying position against Seattle. When Henry arrives I assume there will be some competition for the CM spots between Dagny, Horan, and Long. I think the Thorns CAM needs to be a goal scorer. Heath and Klingenberg played some excellent balls in the Seattle game that deserved runners on the end of them. The only question if Nadim is the starting CF is who plays the RM position.

          • guest

            i take henry over horan. but i don’t know if you can keep a uwsnt player on the bench.

          • Guest

            They will play with 3 CMs so my best guess is that Horan and Henry will definitely be playing and Long and Dagny will be fighting for that last spot. So far I haven’t seen anything from Dagny that says that she is going to play better than Long did last year. Henry is an automatic starter over anyone.

          • Terry Lash

            I agree. Danny has upside potential from my perspective, but I would choose Long over her at this time.

          • tonysocref

            I believe a lot depends on where Kling is played. Parsons has indicated that he may be using her as a mid. If thats the case, then the midfield competition just got tighter.

          • Guest

            If Kling is used as a mid she will be a wide player like Heath. I don’t think she really factors into the CM competition. Whether or not Kling is used as a wide midfielder probably depends on how Nadim does out wide and Sinc does centrally. Klingenberg and Heath’s connection when playing on the same flank looked very potent against Seattle and Parsons might not want to mess that up.

          • tonysocref

            Unfortunately playing her at mid in a 4-2-3-1 leaves somebody on the bench, especially when Henry arrives. For all practical purposes, Long, Horan, Dagny and Sinclair would all be fighting for the CM position.
            Granted that Kling and Tobin worked will together in the match against the Reign, the problem I saw was that the Thorns were to one sided in their attack.

          • Guest

            I agree that they were too one sided in their attack. Nadim didn’t really seem like a wide player but their options are very limited unless they make a trade. They also couldn’t move the ball effectively through the middle because the Reign CMs were so good. I don’t expect that to happen against many other NWSL teams and Henry will certainly help them there.

          • tonysocref

            Baring any trades and all the players currently on NT duty return injury free, my guess for opening day will be.
            Sinclair
            Nadim, Long, Heath
            Horan, Dagny
            Kling, Sonnett, Williamson, Menges
            GK is a toss up. Both had some issues

          • Lorehead

            Sinc might still play at attacking mid? Her problem is missing her shots by a mile, and that’s not something that playing her as a supersub would fix, but she might still be good as a playmaker.

          • Terry Lash

            She might, but would she better than others on the team? Not clear to me that she would. She’s a good passer/distributor, but slow and seemingly aging before our eyes. If not for her long, productive career and because she is well liked by fans, she might be let go.

          • Guest

            Heath……Nadim……..Dagny
            ……..Long……….Horan…….
            …………….Henry………………
            Kling…Sonnett..Williamson…Menges
            …………….Betos……………………..

          • Terry Lash

            This starting eleven looks good to me., although I am not a big fan of the 4 3 3. In this case, though, I think you take best advantage of the players on the roster. Have you given any thought to how the Thorns might line up Horan, Heath Klingenberg and possibly Sonnet or Long are away for NT duty/OG? Still think the Thorns need another striker in case Nadim is injured, or to pair with her in a 4 4 2. Unfortunately the recently released Weimer is probably not that striker.

          • Guest

            I have given it some thought but it is hard to be sure. They are really going to struggle it seems like.

        • spirit of freedom

          Why? Isn’t he the guy whose team couldn’t win their own way into the playoffs two years running? This the same coach who completely screwed with his cohesive lineup at the end of last season and changed the whole tenor of the squad. He’s got bigger egos in Portland and more pressure- it could be a long season.

          • Terry Lash

            He was better than the guy before him and I think he is better than the guy who replaced him. But it’s low standard in both cases.

          • spirit of freedom

            True Jorden was way out of his league. I wonder what he’s doing now. We’ll see with Gabarra 2.0. Regardless I stand by my description of Parsons in DC and the Portland situation he is now in. On another note you have to feel for Weimer, who was dropped so that Gabarra could keep at least one draft pick on the pro roster. Personally, I always arrived early to count how many nutmegs “Ocho” made in warm-up.

          • tonysocref

            Might want to check the stats. The Spirit were the 4th seeded team in both 2014 and 2015.

          • guest

            They needed help from other teams to get them into the playoffs both times. They choked in 2014 when they out played the Reign. And then in 2015 Parsons screwed his team by not playing Dunn in her best position in a do or die game.

      • F0OtballNowAndAlways

        Too bad we couldn’t see Henry at “She Believes”. I too can’t wait to see her and Heath in Chicago on June 12th, when I hope the Red Stars will teach them a lesson they won’t soon forget.

    • Ethan

      5) I can’t say anything about Pratt’s overall play, but I was not impressed at all by her in the first half of the OSU match. She got better in the second half, but she still wasn’t that influential. So, maybe she has a consistency issue.

      7) No idea. Some people have wondered if it has to do with her lack of vision in her right eye.

      8) Disagree. Goalkeeping is still weaker than finishing.

      • Guest

        I think it has far more to do with the type of wide player Ohai is. She isn’t a drop deep into the midfield to pick up passes type of wing like Pinoe, Heath, and Pugh. She is like HAO. She stretches defenses and scores goals in transition but is limited in congested areas. She isn’t a great fit for Ellis’ possession oriented build up and attack. I also don’t think she has as much pace as HAO at 30. Goalkeeping is will probably always be a bigger issue than finishing. The best female goalkeepers in the world will never be able make all the saves the best men’s keepers will be able to.

        • Ethan

          Well, she dropped deep and did very well to rob the Portland Thorns player, exchange a give and go, and play a very good through ball to Daly for the penalty kick. Although I think she’s more capable of playing in a “possession oriented” system than you think she is, I don’t exactly disagree with your overall opinion though. I just think Ohai has deserved a cap with the full NT based on her appearances for UNC, the U-20 WNT, and the Dash over the last four or so years.

          • Guest

            I don’t disagree that Ohai deserves a look. I am just rationalizing possible reasons why Ellis might have passed over her. The NT seems to be in a shortage of wide players with Rapinoe out and Dunn not really looking great so far.

        • F0OtballNowAndAlways

          “She isn’t a drop deep into the midfield to pick up passes type of wing like Pinoe, Heath, and Pugh.”

          Isn’t that precisely how she scored against Portland three days ago?

      • Terry Lash

        Who do you suggest Ohai replace on the NT? Ohai is a good player, but is she better tan players already on the NT? It’s not clear to me that she is, although currently she is showing better than McCaffrey.

        • F0OtballNowAndAlways

          Couldn’t the same be said for Sanchez who is as yet untested at senior ball? Wasn’t the same said about Pugh?

          • Terry Lash

            Sure. But to be realistic advocates for adding a new person for a WNT call up should consider who already on the list should be left off. Is Ohai better than Pugh or Sanchez for the WNT? I saw Pugh in person in Nashville recently, but I have not seen Ohai in person. Nonetheless, I would venture that the WNT is better off with Pugh than Ohai. I know too little about Sanchez to make a judgment.

          • F0OtballNowAndAlways

            “But to be realistic advocates for adding a new person for a WNT call up should consider who already on the list should be left off.”

            Of course, but that did not prevent Pugh’s invitation.

            “I would venture that the WNT is better off with Pugh than Ohai.”

            But did you make that determination before or after you saw Pugh play? That is the question we are trying to solve. Pugh has your vote of confidence now after several NT caps, but would you believe in her without those caps? Would you believe in her if she hadn’t been given a chance despite the players already established on the team?

          • Terry Lash

            Regarding Pugh, I had not seen her play in person or video before she joined the WNT. Calling her and Sanchez up was the coach’s decision primarily, not because of the urging of fans. I think Ohai is a good player and certainly could understand if Ellis wants to take a look at her in the NT setting, as she did with McCaffrey. I’m skeptical, however, that Ohai will succeed any more than McCaffrey. They seem comparable to me.

    • Ethan

      I just took a look at the Portland Thorns twitter account; I’m surprised that you didn’t mention the number of offside decisions that were made.

      • tonysocref

        Match report on Thorns page say there were 20 offside calls. 11 – Dash, 9 – Thorns.

        • Steglitz49

          About even. Suggests that both teams either are good at the offside trap or don’t check their position.

          • F0OtballNowAndAlways

            I think it is the latter. I didn’t perceive any deliberate offside traps in the calls i saw.

          • Steglitz49

            The offside trap: Holland’s gift to football.

          • F0OtballNowAndAlways

            I thought that was Johann Cruyff?

          • Steglitz49

            I am not sure that he can be blamed for it.

          • F0OtballNowAndAlways

            I mean, I thought Cruyff was Holland’s gift to soccer?

          • Steglitz49

            Johan was larger than life, like Liedholm.

            Apparently, there was another Dutch player about the same time, who was considered even more talented than Cruyff, but because of religious conviction, he would not play on Sundays, his career petered out!

      • F0OtballNowAndAlways

        Well, we already have bad goalkeeping and poor finishing, now you want me to add “offside” to the list of weaknesses in woso?

        • Ethan

          I don’t think it’s a weakness; I see just as many offside calls in men’s football. The Thorns Twitter account just gave me the impression that there was an unusually large number of offside calls in the match. I didn’t watch the match though, so I don’t know how many of the calls were actually correct.

    • Ethan

      2) Based on your and JL’s post below, I was expecting an absolute bullet from Pratt. Her shot wasn’t hit with that much pace in my opinion though. Henninger definitely could have parried the shot to be safe, but a professional goalkeeper should be able to hold onto a shot like Pratt’s. If Henninger chose to parry the ball, I think it would have been her being cautious of any unfriendly bounce rather than her being cautious of the pace of the shot.

    • Tom F

      1) this isn’t English soccer(where I noticed red cars are giving out left & right)
      2) nobody should really answer about the Herman award unless they saw every single college game of both last season. But remember, several of the NT players took it easy after the WC
      7)Ohai could make any NT in the world except one, the USWNT, and Ellis isn’t one to fool too much around with new talent(she’s got a few favorties though like Pugh). The last coach to give opportunities with compete lineup changes, got canned!
      8) the NWSL has several foreing born coaches too teach the ways of the rest of the world, but in my theory/book; soccer will always be a more athletic than technical one, at least in this country(since we play so many different sports, soccer is more geared to the athletic side)

    • Guest

      Pratt has been disappointing. Dispossessed on countless occasions and has not contributed much of anything going forward.

  • Gary Diver

    Apart from the opportunity for gallows humor (of which I’ve tried to contribute), this is a sad situation. It is sad for Abby. It is sad for her family. It is sad for her former teammates. And it is sad for her fans.

    P.S. Imagine that this happened 15 years ago. How many of us would have wanted to spend more than 10 minutes of our time thinking about it? The drunk driving world is a much different world now.

    • Lorehead

      A change for the better, I think.

    • guest

      Still, as long as a DUI results in little more than a slap on the wrist, I say it’s fair game for “gallows humor.” Shouldn’t wait until somebody actually dies to punish the offender. She ran a red light while she was unfit–legally!–to drive a car and could have killed somebody. I might just throw in here that I was once nearly killed in such manner. I drink like a fish but never drove drunk. Not once. Wambach gets bailed out of jail and will lose her license for a few months. You have to laugh at that or you’d cry. No, not sad for her.

  • Gary Diver

    What will happen with Abby’s endorsements?

    • tonysocref

      MIni USA made statement today that they were pulling the add with her in it.

  • john eric

    WAMBACK DRUNKEN STUPOR NOT UNEXPECTED…………Common place for hero worshippers to fake bewilderment when behavioral defects of so-called heroes make big headlines.Abby Wamback is human with alcoholic and substance abuse issues.She needs medical attention and should check herself into a rehab center.Unlike Amy Winehouse , is never too late for her.

    • guest

      substance abuse issues?

    • mskillens

      I love how these kind of stories bring out the trolls from the woodworks.

  • guest

    The coincidence of this and the lawsuit is going to put the whole wnt under a lot more media scrutiny. If there are any more skeletons the media is going to pounce.

    • guest

      Bet they’re wishing they didn’t have family beater Solo as one of the five leading the charge.

      • mockmook

        Bet they purposely picked her as one of the representatives. How could they have not?

        • guest

          They would have been smart to leave her out of this. Her case already raises too many flags about gender equality and the double standard that saw her not held accountable for being arrested for beating two members of her family while her male counterparts were suspended for significant amounts of time. Her suspension only came after she and her husband took a team van for a drunken joy ride. She should have been so far down the team’s list of people they’d want representing them in a case like this.

          • Lorehead

            I honestly don’t think the case with the NFL player that everybody compared it to was very similar. Yes, the misdemeanor she was charged with had the words “domestic violence” in the name, but that doesn’t mean it was exactly the same thing. Also, she wasn’t convicted or caught on camera.

          • guest

            It doesn’t matter the wording on her misdemeanor charges. She was arrested for beating two members of her family and the federation allowed her to continue playing for them even when people were rightfully calling for her to be suspended. The federation only half ass decided to “punish” her after she was on board with her husband driving drunk.

          • Lorehead

            But the misdemeanor charges were dismissed. That matters. Besides, she did get suspended after the second incident.

          • guest

            The case was reopened in October and the charges are still pending. The federation only bothered to suspend her after the second incident, which was arguably the lesser of the two incidents considering she wasn’t actually arrested that time.

          • guest

            do you know the status of the case now? is her olympic spot in jeopardy? or will it be dragged out till after then?

          • guest

            It’s inevitably going to be dragged out. Her family didn’t file the appeal until the last minute in early July and it took until the start of October to learn if it was going to be reopened or not. I’m sure Solo’s legal team has filed their own appeal of the appeal and I’m sure it’s just going to bog the whole process down.

          • Lorehead

            That’s not what actually happened. In any case, the fact that she was never found guilty of anything is not some technicality.

          • guest

            The fact that it was reopened should say something. It was dismissed on very good grounds because her family did pretty much everything they could to screw up the case in their favor and yet their appeal went through for a reason.

          • Lorehead

            That’s not how I’d describe it, but the basic fact is that it’s a he-said, she-said. So, if he doesn’t want to testify against her, it’s going to be hard for the prosecution to win that case.

          • guest

            And yet they still won their appeal to reopen the case against her, despite their absolute best try to torpedo their own case by destroying evidence and refusing to testify. Under normal circumstances that doesn’t usually happen, which I take to mean the legal system believes that there’s enough of a case to push forward and punish her.

          • Lorehead

            That isn’t really how the system works.

          • Gary Diver

            It is amazing that people who were not there seem to be sure of what happened that night. Where are a few things we do know for sure. (1) Hope Solo comes from a very dysfunctional family. (2) People who claim and/or imply Solo is a child abuser never mention that her 17-year-old nephew was at least 6 feet 8 and 270 pounds. In other words he was one foot taller and 120 pounds heavier than Solo. Can you imagine fighting someone who is 12 inches taller than you and 120 pounds heavier than you? I can’t. (3) Her half-sister has flip-flopped her story and then explained away her flip-flop by claiming she initially wanted to protect Hope. That doesn’t pass the smell test. (4) There was a gun involved in the incident and that gun was destroyed and/or thrown away by the half-sister. Now Solo claimed it was a real gun and the half-sister claimed it was just a broken BB gun. Throwing away important evidence is a red flag.

            I wasn’t there and neither were any of the people who have rushed to judgment in this case. Not knowing how to know who is telling the truth it would seem only fair to presume innocence until the courts tell us otherwise. I would want that same consideration for myself if I was accused of wrongdoing. The benefit of doubt should apply to everyone, not just to people you like.

          • guest

            The fact that the police that arrived on scene felt there was enough evidence to arrest Solo and not the other two has to count against her. I never said she was a “child” beater, but the fact remains, the nephew in question was still under the age of 18 at the time the attack happened, even if he had a considerable size advantage. The family destroyed plenty of evidence from the crime in question and yet the courts felt that there was still enough to reopen the case. The fact remains that there is every chance that she gets convicted of her two DV charges and there’s even a chance that she faces jail time.

          • Gary Diver

            I know you didn’t say Hope was a child abuser. But other people seem to imply that she is when they tell the story leaving out the specifics of her nephew. There must be a reason why some people want to leave out that information which is part of the context of the story.

          • guest

            Because he was legally still considered a child at the time of the attack?

          • Gary Diver

            I realize he was considered a “child” by the law, but I would never consider someone who is 17 years old and who is 6 foot 7 and weighs 270 pounds a “child”. And certainly I wouldn’t consider him a child if I got into a fight with him. Honestly, I do not know if I have personally ever met someone that big in my life.

          • Lorehead

            That was because we actually know that she was guilty.

          • guest

            They only suspended her after that second incident because they’d been put under so much pressure to punish her after the first run in with the law. Literally everyone was calling for her to be punished after she was actually arrested but the federation twiddled their thumbs and hoped for the best and she repaid them by being an idiot less than a week after her case was dropped.

      • guest

        i think the uswnt tv sympathy tour is now on hold.

    • another guest

      These two things are only connected if you’re really stupid.

  • GWS Jr.

    Abby, this too will pass. Everyone makes bad decisions – accept responsibility and consequences, and go with God. Making a serious mistake is acceptable in America. Understanding you shouldn’t repeat it is the key. Lay off of her.

    • No vaya con dios

      Oh, so you’re one of those God people. That’s why no one happened to be crossing that intersection when Abby ran the light! No, this “mistake” is no big deal, because God doesn’t usually allow drunk drivers to kill people! Look, this is basically like opening your window and firing a gun at random. Not only should you not repeat that “mistake,” there’s no excuse for doing it the first time. Zero excuse. Too many people are killed by drunk drivers in this country with our comparatively lax DUI laws for us to “lay off” people when they foolishly endanger lives in this way.

  • Chak Khan
    • Steglitz49

      Not so long ago at the White House. Now in the Dog House.

  • Gary Diver

    USWNT summer schedule

    Hard to know where to put this news, but there are more things in WoSo than Abby’s fall.

    USSF has just announced the first of two games against Japan to be played in Colorado on June 2. Japan is currently rated no. 7 by FIFA and is experiencing a tailspin that resulted in not qualifying for the Olympics after winning silver in OG12 (London).

    http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/04/04/19/14/160404-wnt-will-face-japan-on-june-2-2016-in-commerce-city-colorado-at-dicks-sporting-goods-park

    So:
    1. There must be a second game with Japan during the first week in June.

    2. There will be a two-month USWNT gap between Columbia and Japanese games. Obviously the NWSL will be playing during that period.

    3. It is reasonable to assume Ellis has her Olympics 18 decided upon with the possible exception of the alternates. (Do alternates get medals?) The Bubble Players would seem to be Hinkle, Sonnett, Engen, and HAO. (Interesting that 3 of the Bubbles are defenders backing up Ellis’ firmest area.)

    4. All games in the future will focus on improving player communications, combinations, timing, and technical skills, especially corner kicks and other set pieces.

    Questions:
    1. How many games can we expect USWNT to play between the Japanese games and the Olympics? Is there a limit to how many USWNT games Ellis can try to fit in before the Olympics?

    2. Are there specific time slots reserved for international Friendlies during the summer?

    3. How are we going to find things to talk about the national team when they aren’t playing games?

    • kevin

      i saw reports that the uswnt olympic camp is during the month of may. so i’m assuming there might be two more friendly games in the month of july before the olympics

      • Steglitz49

        Mayday! Mayday!! ???

    • Steglitz49

      The ladies FA cup final is on May 14th and children are admitted free.

      The semifinals are about a month before on Sunday April17th. The winners will get the marvelous, wonder ful — wait for it — £2,000

      Arsenal vs Sunderland
      Chelsea v Manchester City

      Thus, it can be two London teams or none in the final in Wembley stadium.

      yeehaw!

  • AlexH

    I think one of the casualties of the DUI is that ABby probably will lose a lot of credibility as a soccer reformer going forward. I could have envisioned her being an agent of change in the way that US Soccer works over and above the current pay dispute. There is a lot of stuff that occurs in the shadow and soccer in the USA would benefit if somebody or some group could shine some light on it.

  • F0OtballNowAndAlways

    Personally, I find blowing off the NWSL all of last year to so-called focus on the world cup far more disappointing than this DUI. To me, this incident has little significance. How much change could a star in the niche sport of women’s soccer have really made in politics or the world? However, that star power could have been used effectively for promoting the NWSL last year, especially after the world cup.

  • guest

    So taking responsibility after failing the field and blood tests means pleading not guilty. Makes sense?

  • htm222

    How is she going to change the world now?!?! (rollseyes). Abby has always seemed really impulsive and lacking in self control to me, and there have been rumors for years that she hits the booze hard. This is didn’t surprise me at all.

  • mskillens

    So much for running for politics Abbster. Nobody is going to vote for a politician if they had a DUI and snorted cocaine… oh wait never mind.

    • Lorehead

      Although, in fairness, the source for the cocaine charge against Bush is extremely unreliable. Smoking pot (but not inhaling?) is almost a requirement. The current President presents an interesting conundrum: he confessed to having tried dope in his autobiography, but his college friends say he never did anything harder than pot and was just trying to get some street cred.

      I don’t really care much whether someone used drugs or not: if the justification for those laws is paternalistic, that we’re so very worried they’ll ruin somebody’s life, that we end up ruining somebody’s life over them, something has gone horribly wrong. In the case of the President, though, who oversees the criminal-justice system and who alone has the power to commute some of those mandatory federal sentences for possession, there’s a lot of hypocrisy involved.

  • guest