Germany beats France in PKs in WWC quarterfinals

The Equalizer Staff June 26, 2015 164
Germany v France: Quarter Final - FIFA Women's World Cup 2015

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Germany is through to the semifinals of the 2015 Women’s World Cup after defeating France, 5-4 on penalty kicks on Saturday in Montreal. Germany goalkeeper Nadine Angerer saved the final penalty kick, taken by 21-year-old Claire Lavogez, to lift Germany into the semifinals.

The match ended 1-1 after 120 minutes. Louisa Necib put France ahead in the 64th minute when shot from 20 yards out took a drastic deflection off a Germany defender and spun just out of the reach of a diving Nadine Angerer.

Celia Sasic scored the equalizer for Germany in the 84th minute from the penalty spot. Amel Majri was whistled for a handball in the box, sending Germany to the spot just minutes from the full-time whistle.

A physical extra-time period ended without a goal, and the first nine penalty-takers combined made their kicks before Lavogez’s miss.

Germany will play either the United States or China on Tuesday in Montreal in the semifinals.

Necib had the best opportunity of the first half just 40 seconds in, when she was left unmarked at the back post. Marie-Laure Delie missed a header in the 25th minute, putting the ball over the bar from 8 yards out.

France goalkeeper Sarah Bouhaddi came up big when called upon including in the 58th minute, when she dove to save Dzsenifer Marozsan’s curling free kick from 20 yards out.

Les Bleues controlled much of the first half but proved wasteful, heading into halftime scoreless alongside Germany.

Germany advances after a disappointing quarterfinal exit on home soil four years ago.

  • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

    That. Game. Was. Depressing.

    • ayylmao

      Great example of the best of Women’s soccer, but yes depressing end for France.

  • Stephen

    Well, what else is there left to say, other than never underestimate the ability of the French NT to miss their clear chances in tournaments. In most cases it didn’t even matter if Angerer was in goal or not.

  • eL cascador (RIP Cdr Wank)

    France deserved their defeat. They wasted too many chances to score.

    • Silver Frost

      Why did Lavogez take the last PK shot? Putting the WC in the hands of a 21 yr old. Not a good decision. But FRA had plenty of chances, including Necib in the first 2 minutes. She should have buried that one. One consolation is that GER failed to score in the run of play. GER attained all goals from PKs! No offense. Really sad way to proceed against USA next week.

      • eL cascador (RIP Cdr Wank)

        I can’t disagree more France defense was impressive today, even Bouhaddi did a great game. I predicted before that it would be a closed game and that I trusted the french defense more than the german’s.

        I look forward to see what would a Renard-M’bock central defensive line up will look like in the future.

      • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

        “Putting the WC in the hands of a 21 yr old. Not a good decision.”

        Cause as Japan knows- 19 year-olds are much better.

        http://31.media.tumblr.com/db7ef76c56da830155a8c51f230dd508/tumblr_nkljinH24h1rgi5v4o1_400.gif

        • OZ

          Apparently the French Coach asked the players who wanted to go 1st, 2nd etc and she chose to go last. Should the coach have intervened?

          • kevin

            might be best to have your #1 and #2 penalty takers to go first to hopefully get the lead and take the pressure off the rest. then put #4 and #5 in the middle. then have your #3 penalty taker to go last just in case the shootout goes to the last kick. and don’t leave your #1 penalty taker for last because the shootout might be over by then. like happened before to ronaldo in a shootout where he never got a chance to shoot.

    • Tom F

      don’t feel bad, this is one game where France looked like the better team. I got to say, teams need to prepare for these pk shootouts. especially the gk’s. This time Bouhaddi looked absolutely atrocious. She barely moved for some of them. Even though she faced Sasic earlier in the game, she still went the wrong way when Sasic’s time came up again.
      France’s excellent u20 players(from last year) will surely more major roles in the next years. They’re only going to get better(only Abily is in her 30’s). Does France still got to qualify?

      • eL cascador (RIP Cdr Wank)

        I don’t feel bad at all. There is no real reason. Like the FFF president said before that game. Even if France loses this game, women soccer in France will be evolving greatly. Let’s be realistic.
        There is no use for the French team to cry. If they can’t score their golden opportunities then they don’t deserve to win at the highest level.
        I saw the French team less disappointed at the end of this game than at the end of the Euro13 quaterfinal against Danemark. Obviously they (and most of the French audience) know they f*** this up big time.

        • M Proust

          There is little reason to expect FRA to be better in 2019. Most of their stars will be 30+ by then, and who knows how many will have retired? The younger players like Lavogez don’t have the talent.

          • eL cascador (RIP Cdr Wank)

            Future is bright for France. Youth talentsare coming : Lavogez, M’Bock, Toletti, Romanelli, Katoto, Léger; Majri, Renard (who is only 24).

          • Lorehead

            How are their U-20s?

  • ertelmetlen

    I am rooting for the German team all tournament, but I was heartbroken to see this great french team go out like this. Didn’t really felt that the german penalty was deserved. Well, let’s hope the germans don’t mess it up against the US team.

    • Caroline Hansen BEST Winger

      This should have been the final, FIFA did big mistake.

      • Movement

        No, France has to prove they can win a BIG GAME for once in a big tournament. They have still not won two straight knockout round matches in any big tournament (World Cup, Euro, Olympics), which they have still failed to do in the history of their team. The two big giants in this tournament in tradition and championship pedigree (Germany and USA) should be the ones meeting in the Final. Unfortunately, they have to meet in a Semifinal.

        • ertelmetlen

          I’m really not a huge fan of this ‘historical’ approach. I don’t really feel that this french team has to carry the looser stigma just because their predecessors sucked. This is the strongest french women’s team, with a very good coach.
          There was a lot of talk of France ‘choking’, but there was no sing of that this time (missing their chances is totally different issue). They pretty much dominated Germany, there were periods of the match where the german team was not able to make 3 consecutive passes. They looked dominant, confident, and even nailed the penalties apart from poor Lavogez.

          • Movement

            This is still the difference between USA/Germany and France. When USA/Germany dominate an opponent, they win. When France dominates an opponent in a Friendly, France wins, however when France dominates an opponent in a big tournament match, if it’s a knockout round match, they often lose. France didn’t choke in the first 80 minutes. They choked in the last 40+ minutes + penalties.

          • ertelmetlen

            Well then, we clearly saw a different game. Germany was lucky to equalize, and I’m saying this as a huge german supporter.

            The game was closer to even in the later periods of the game. And calling a 4/5 penalty score ‘choking’ is also a huge hyperbole, if anything we can give some credit to german team for going 5/5.

          • Movement

            The penalties weren’t the choke individually, I met from the 80th minute one, through the rest of the game, France couldn’t finish off what they started, which was a DOMINANT performance over the slower German team for the first 80 minutes.

  • newsouth

    The process is in play. Germany goes through a gauntlet of games and a mentally taxing and physically draining game to get by France while USA gets fresh cakewalk to the Semis. Soccer Gods don’t let Neid and Co. down, just one more game.

    • guest

      yawn

      • newsouth

        upset fanboy

        • Hwah

          yawn.

        • guest

          still bitter

    • Movement

      Germany got their free pass in the group. Now the USWNT and Germany come in equal in terms of what they’ve had to face, but the worst teams the USWNT have faced (Colombia, China, Nigeria) are still much better than Thailand and Ivory Coast.

  • FootballNowAndAlways

    The French loss is good for women’s soccer. The pressure on them to win in 2019 on their home soil will be titanic. They might well replicate the achievements of their male counterparts in that regard.

    • newsouth

      their current squad is the brasil of 2007, the best they will field in the next 50 yrs. WC in 2019 isn’t happening with the core on their last legs.

      • Tom F

        your forgetting France had an excellent u20 squad last year including mvp, MBock Baty. They’ll just keep getting better

        • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

          But- Nigeria and Australia are probably going to peak in the next tournament. Germany will still be Germany. South Korea might be dangerous if Yeo Min-ji can stay healthy and Jeoun Eun-ha can get her head straight. North Korea will be back. Japan is a riddle wrapped in an enigma inside a paradox- they have tons of options with their next two generations.

          • Movement

            All true, except for South Korea. They were vastly overrated coming in because they drew against the US, when the US played their worst game of the year. Costa Rica was able to score a draw against South Korea, a team that the US often beats 6-0 or worse. Spain is in over their head still in big tournaments at finding ways to win. They still need experience at big games in big tournaments before they finally break through. North Korea is still better than South Korea, although Australia is now better than both (and Japan is still #1 in AFC, unless Australia can top them tomorrow). If the Matildas win tomorrow, I could see them becoming a bigger world power than Japan by 2019, due to the young players of Australia getting better, and Japan’s older veteran players retiring.

          • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

            Did you see the recent U-20 tournament America held last month? Did you see last year’s U-17 tournament?

          • Steglitz49

            FIFA gave the Australian Federation $500,000 to develop the ladies game so the Matildas have a war-chest.

            (I am told that Aussie girls were drifting away from soccer to netball and cricket, so FIFA had to step in to stop the rot and shore up the scene. They may need to do the same in Sweden.)

        • TsovLoj

          They might end up with a team like Canada’s this year, with young and old players but few in the middle.

      • Movement

        France has great youth talent coming up.
        They will remain at Top 5 power in the world.
        They still have to find a way to “break the seal” and win big games.

      • FootballNowAndAlways

        The team may be older in ’19, but women in their 30s can still acquit themselves admirably if the occasion is challenging enough. Witness Formiga of Brasil in this world cup.

        Besides you should never underestimate the importance of playing in front of partisan crowds. France’s men’s team went from missing the ’90 and ’94 world cups to winning it all in ’98. The pride of the the French is immeasurable. If there is one thing we can boldly predict, it’s that passion and a strong will to succeed will drive the French campaign in 4 years time. Don’t go anywhere. You’ll be in for a treat.

        • Steglitz49

          The coach must weed out the losers. He has enormous potential in the youth ranks. This sorry excuse for an NT has achieved nothing in spite of being arond for a long time and now they are going backwards.

          I only hope that Lavogez does not lose her confidence. She was excellent in the match. Amandine Henry will be 26 this year so might be OK for 2019.

          • Guest DJ

            Henry, Le Sommer, Renard, Necib, all 30+ by 2019. Injury, retirement, pregnancy, all have to be factored in.

          • Steglitz49

            Indeed. That was my point. thanks for reinforcing it. Amandine Henry is still 25, the same as the average age of the Japanese when they won last time.

          • FootballNowAndAlways

            Weed out the losers? Such as? What more could the team have done? After these quarter finals, every team left standing will be chuck full of dynamic talent, yet 75% of them will ultimately fall short of the goal. Should they be cast on the pyre as well? Surely, the French women are performing no worse than their male counterparts who presaged their memorable campaign in WC ’98 with two consecutive no shows?

            Make the necessary changes? My ringing endorsement is in the mail. But I would hardly brand the women on this team “losers”.

            Otherwise we’d also have to ascribe the designation to the loser of the U.S./Germany match on Tuesday. When the final whistle sounds in that encounter between two teams generally adjudged the gold standard in women’s soccer, and from whom championship titles are expected, one of them would have gone two world cups without a title.

          • Steglitz49

            Since 2009 this bunch as hacived nothing. Rien de rien. La vie en rose.

        • Guest

          Yeah, but you are talking about France, which despises woso. I wonder if French people will even watch on TV.

          • mockmook

            I seem to recall the USA v FRA game being a sellout in France.

          • FootballNowAndAlways

            Was going to say the same thing, then decided to scroll down first. Glad I did.

        • TsovLoj

          This. Necib may not follow Wambach’s path. I don’t think you can expect everyone to be ageless like Rampone, but Sinclair’s still damn good at 32. I don’t think it’ll necessarily be fatal for France.

          • Steglitz49

            This lot has failed 5 times in a row and this time at an earlier stage. He simply has to weed the losers out — and hope that Lavogez recovers. That other girl who got the nose-bleed looks like another talent.

      • 2019fan

        Your body holds up longer when you can dance around people rather than run through them. One reason Abby’s decline has been so quick is the type of soccer she has played – aggressive and dependent upon superior strength. France will just dance around and therefore are less likely to get battered over time.

  • Lance Scallop

    Once Thomis was out, Germany was comfortable going forward and created more opportunities.

    Even if she was exhausted, she should have been left in as a threat.

    All that being said, Thiney finishes the final chance with her left foot and France wins 2-1. It’s shocking how often you see that at the highest level in both men’s and women’s soccer.

    • Movement

      France’s coach is a real idiot, just like their last coach.
      You keep Thomis in there as a decoy, as the very least, to intimidate them.
      So for their 3 subs, they sub out Thomis, Le Sommer, and Delie.
      Dumb. Real dumb. This is exactly what Germany wanted late in the game.
      They were no longer afraid of any French attack, and it flipped the game.

      • ertelmetlen

        I’m not sure if you are serious? This team plays football in a manner that was pretty much unprecedented in the woman’s game. Even if the subs were terrible (Thomis’ knee was bothering her, don’t know to what extent…, Le Sommers substitution was quationable), he built an incredible team. Neid looked totally hopeless, even though she had months to figure out a viable gameplan.

        • necron99

          What are you talking about unprecedented style? Japan plays the same style with better results.

        • Tom F

          I wouldn’t call Neid “totally hopeless”
          Neid was playing for a pk shootout. She knew she didn’t have the athletic ability to match France. She’l do the same with the US. Question got to be, is the US ready? I hope they practice extra hard with pk’s

      • JL

        Thomis was cramping up and asked to be subbed out.

        • Movement

          You don’t sub out all 3 of your best goal scorers (Delie, Le Sommer, Thomis). If Thomis had to come out fine, but not all three of them. The players that came in were playing with that “deer in the headlights” look, in not believing they could beat Germany.

  • Altius

    What a fantastic, fantastic game. Glad we got 120 minutes of it. Absolutely heartbreaking for France to go out like that, but such an exhibition they put on.

  • dj

    oh my, the 4th place curse for Francia . LOL

    chokers will always choke.

    • mockmook

      No 4th this year.

    • mockmook

      The curse is broken.

  • Miami66

    Necib in 1st minute and Thiney in 117th. Golden chances that they couldn’t finish. If USA are smart they’ll use the speedsters like O’Reilly, Rodriguez, Press, Leroux. O’Hara maybe. France was able to control the game and wear Germany down, but were unable to bury their chances. Use your speed to get behind them.

    • Movement

      Honestly, France in all sports (both genders) have had teams that were world powers at the senior level, but often choke more than just about any other international nation in the biggest of games that matter most. Thankfully, they won the 1998 World Cup Final, which was a big deal. Other than that, i can’t think of too many big time French wins in championship caliber games, for either gender. Even Lyon has struggled to win championships and the biggest of games over the past 3 years or so.

      • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

        Their men’s handball is a dynasty last time I checked.

        • eL cascador (RIP Cdr Wank)

          Their basketball team won the last Euro too.

        • Movement

          That’s a regional/continental (European) sports, more than an international sport.

          • eL cascador (RIP Cdr Wank)

            Last handball WC final was France vs Qatar…does not seem to be a regional/continental match up for me.

          • Anthony

            Well, it’s probably more competitive than the WWC to be honest. And their victories have been tough, hard fought matches for the most part.

      • eL cascador (RIP Cdr Wank)

        The best comparison would be French rugby team. Played WC final 3 times never won one.

        • Anthony

          Very much so, although they pretty blatantly robbed in the last one.
          But yeah the rugby team has tendency to win when it’s not expected and lose when they’re favorites.

      • Steglitz49

        Their men won Euro 2000, having gone a goal down.

      • Anthony

        Euro 2000 and Euro 84, countless handball victories, european champions in basketball

        • Lorehead

          If you’re going to go back to ’84, more than thirty years ago, I remember a little shindig in ’98.

          • TsovLoj

            I’m revealing my youth here, but please explain.

          • Lorehead
          • TsovLoj

            Ah, thanks bro!

  • snishy

    First things first, this should have been the final game or, at the very least, the semifinal game: these 2 teams deserved that much.
    Moving on, France controlled much of the regulation 90, but had a couple of golden opportunities to put the match away, none bigger than the Thiney miss so close to the end of 90′. You can’t let a team like Germany hang around. On the other end, France did show the way to potentially beat Germany, which is basically not giving them any time on the ball and being incredibly crisp on passes.
    As for the US, they should be thanking their lucky stars that they get a German team that plays a more similar style to them and a team that will be much more worn out than they will be come Tuesday.

    • Silver Frost

      You know what they always say: bury those chances. FRA was good in the first half, but their passing efficiency went seriously downhill in the 2nd. Maybe things will change, but I just can’t imagine FRA ever having this good a team again.

    • Lorehead

      The bracket was a mercenary travesty. The game was great, though, and would have been a great semifinal or final.

  • Jersey Shore Rises

    I bet all the USWNT haters are crying tonight not only since their “Technically Dominate Team” France lost but that Carli Lloyd scored the lone goal against China proving once again why she is without a doubt the best US Player when it comes to crucial goals….

    I give you all some tissues so you can dry your tears and Germany showed against France it is not the dominate #1 FIFA seed it has.

    • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

      Yeah, China is such a leviathan.

      • Jersey Shore Rises

        If I were you I would be worried about Germany, they were not impressive at all with their PK win….

        • Movement

          Germany was dominated by France in giving up so many scoring chances to the French attack, but to be fair, the same would have happen to the USWNT against France. Get outshot, lose possession, be on their heels, but find a way to win against a team that still can’t “finish” games.

        • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

          Match-ups makes games. Germany, Australia, Canada, Switzerland, and to a lesser extent England are the type teams that can punish an under-organized USA in the knockout stages.

        • Tom F

          except they were impressive with their pk’s; 6 for 6. Neid knows she can’t play with the US in the open field. She’ll try again for a pk shootout. The only good thing is that Solo might of been able to stop a few of those pk’s, Hopefully Ellis keeps extra practicing pk’s with her team. I got thew feeling they’ll need it come Tuesday

          • Steglitz49

            Germany will try to win it in regulation. Had they not tried, they would have lost 0-1 yesterday.

      • TsovLoj

        Two more cycles of regrowth like this one and they’ll be a titan again. The signs are there.

        • Steglitz49

          I know about the corruption and infighting but is there a reason why their ladies seem to be getting it together again? Is it like Japan — good coaching staff and careful selection of players? Or, more to it than meets the eye?

          For example, with the massive imbalance between the sexes, is playing soccer an acceptable way for young ladies to escape a coerced marriage?

  • dj

    btw, the scheduling system is so stupid. Teams gotta have at least 4 or 5 days of rest especially in semi or finals.

    • Jersey Shore Rises

      USWNT did get the weaker bracket but they are paying for it with the least amount of rest overall then any other teams in the KO round and beyond.

      • Movement

        And the USWNT has to do the most travelling of any team left, including Germany. Big disadvantage, and with less rest too.

        • Jersey Shore Rises

          Traveling from Ottawa to Montreal is only 35 mins by air so not concerned about that when the number of rest days are more crucial. In this case we will be even with Germany for once and Germany had to play 30+ mins of OT.

      • Lorehead

        Same rest as Germany (give or take a few hours) before the semifinal, and then the winner of that semifinal gets a day more rest than their final opponent. So, we’re through the stretch with a day or two less rest.

    • Steglitz49

      Not realistic. The Final can’t be any later than this weekend. The tournament is a month long.

  • TN

    The French was the better team, and as this sport shows, the better team will not always win. It just sucks that the French team was robbed when the replay was shown, I couldn’t even tell if it was a handball, I think it hit off her shoulder and chest area, just like the one in New Zealand vs China game.

    I think in such big games like these, the referee can make the decision if the camera played back shows that, I mean there are like hundreds of cameras all over the field and they play those moments back within seconds. That “handball” was a game changer, and it went in favor of Germany, just only one person deciding that. Eh, this German team is nothing to write home about. This really should have been the final or at least semi.

    • Jersey Shore Rises

      The FIFA World Cup’s have proven every 4 years, the best team does not always win… France dominated Germany but in the end their Goal tender was better then France…

      • Steglitz49

        The statistics of the WC-11 final show that Japan slightly edged the US. It is not how I remember it but I have no quarrel with them being the better team that night. They were.

    • kevin

      i also support limited referee video replay and/or coaches challenges. but the football commandments given to fifa on the mountaintop are inscribed on stone tablets. so i guess it’s live by the referee…..die by the referee. lol

      • Steglitz49

        That is the sort of game it is. Live with it or watch grid-iron.

  • Rdalford

    Attendance 24859 (FIFA match report) in Montreal for Germany v France

  • Маркус Джилс

    While it’s a true shame FIFA had to make the scheduling the way they did, my goodness what an amazing game. Slightly surprising both teams were as gassed as they were.

    As soon as Lavogez missed the PK, I felt overwhelming sadness. And I was rooting for Germany. It was disturbing seeing her afterwards. Balling. I’ve never seen Abily not smile. Even with a black eye the size of an oreo – and the sadness from France, and the constant closeups of such put me in a sad mood.

    Lavogez I guess had to take a PK – the result of subbing Delie AND Thomis, but damn man, a 21 year old kid. The worst professional moment of her life. For the world to see.

    • ARED

      I was surprised Henry was not in the first 5. I’m not sure I’d be confident in Thomis taking one more than Lavogez though.

      But regardless, France is the unluckiest team of Canada 2015 without a doubt, and should hold their heads high.

      • Jane

        In post-game comments French coach mentioned that Lavogez asked to take 5th penalty. Such a shame to not be able to watch France play again in this WC. Thought Necib was awesome, super player

        • kevin

          if a player asks to shoot last in a penalty kick shootout then they probably don’t want to take one. that means you should put them in the middle of the order if needed.

  • brdn08

    Well, France remains what I knew they were. On the biggest stages they always come up so small. Totally not surprising. The finishing was terrible. And Germany’s back line was being pulled apart.

  • leftbacklion

    Simulation karma. Just sayin’.

    • necron99

      This x1000. Lavogez with the ridiculous gamesmanship, simulation red card worthy super dive.

      • Steglitz49

        Que?!

      • leftbacklion

        I would’ve given a yellow, but we basically agree. Give her some kind of punishment or disincentive for non-contact diving, because otherwise you’re sending the message to everyone else that simulation will go unpunished if the ref doesn’t recognize it instantly, and that they’ll be rewarded if they can fool the ref. It’s tougher to fool video viewers after the fact.I hope we hear something from the FIFA disciplinary committee soon.

    • guest

      Good point–the French are dirty, as that dive and Abily’s hammer to Houghton’s orbital socket clearly demonstrate.

  • NYRick

    You sub OUT LeSommer, Delie and Thomis?????

    • Belle Victoire

      France needs a new coach. One who can coach women and rebuild for France 2019. Necib, Le Sommer, Renard, will be 30 by then. Other starters will be past 30. Any of them could be retired by then. Four years to reboot.

      • Steglitz49

        Hire Sasaki-san? Or, Anna Signeul.

        • Lorehead

          It has to be someone who speaks French fluently, or that would be a good idea. That restricts the universe of possible hires much more than a team that just needs English (Spanish optional). Belgium’s coach speaks Dutch and, anyway, has never won anything. Switzerland’s coach is German.

          Unfortunately, D1 féminine is so unbalanced that we can’t really infer much about how good a coach there is from the standings, and there’s no French NCAA.

          • Steglitz49

            Murinho got his start at coaching because Bobby Robson needed an interpreter when he moved to Porto. Murinho followed Robson to Barcelona. The rest, as they say, is history.

            Ehere there is a will, there is a way. Abily can interpret.

    • Frozen Blue

      Waldo pointed this out too in the post game show, France’s coach lost them the game.

  • AlexH

    Awesome game. I was very pleased that it went the full 120. It might not mean that much but every little bit on the US side of the scale is worth its weight in gold.

    • Steglitz49

      Japan played 120 min to beat Germany in WC-11. Then they swept Sweden aside in spite of going 0-1 down.

      Now Germany know what they need to work on. JE’s headache is which line-up to chose for the SF. She has so many but only the winning one will do.

      • Steg2011

        Are you going to repeat 2011 WC after this July5th? You should change your name to Steg2011.

        • Steglitz49

          2011 was the last world cup. Soon 2015 will be the latest. Time will tell if the two compare like two vintage wines or like champagne and coca-cola.

  • Steglitz49

    The SF will be a grind. Don’t expect any “Oh! Ah!!” moments. More like a slugfest than extacy. Could be PKs.

    • a guest

      wishful thinking?

      • Steglitz49

        I want extra time at least. Like Japan last time round.

        • FIFA ref

          ET is a useless FIFA mandated bore. Go to PKs after full time.

          • Steglitz49

            Judging by 2011 and so far this time, the reality is not on your side. FIFA tried the Golden Goal for about a dozen years but abandoned it for going back to 15+15.

          • guest

            A golden goal period would certainly spice things up for the last 30 minutes, and then PK’s, although they seem unfair, are nail biting excitement for the fans and a fair test of players’ ability to perform under pressure.

          • Steglitz49

            WC-03 was won on a golden goal. Indeed, Oliver Bierhoff scored the first ever golden goal in the Euro-96 final.

          • kevin

            another option could be what nhl hockey is doing next year with new overtime rules to encourage a winner before shootouts. each team will play with two less players in the overtime period. if no winner by the end then it goes to shootout.

          • Lorehead

            Personally, I miss golden goals. Everybody’s too tired at 120′ to make a two-goal comeback in what had been such an even match. The only game I can think of where a golden-goal rule would have changed the outcome was the USA–Brazil quarterfinal in 2011, where Marta scored in the second minute of extra time, and everyone here remembers what Pinoe and Abby did at the end.

  • alex mahn

    disappointing numbers for Germany TV.. only 7.50 Million wacht GER vs FRA…four years ago GER VS JAP 17.10 Million ..it is a minus from 10 million

    • Steglitz49

      Timing? Competing interests?

      • kevin

        well….the nhl hockey draft was on at the same time. not sure if that affected the numbers much. but i dvr’d the draft to watch later. happy to see the philly flyers picked up the top russian defenseman provarov. unfortunately for nyrick, the flyers are gonna be catching the rangers real soon. hehe

        • Steglitz49

          That would explain no-one in Canada watching, but in the US?

          • A_Dog_Without_A_Clutch

            It was a Friday night- America was either watching their second round of Jurassic World or compensating for what they didn’t do when they saw that movie last weekend.

          • Steglitz49

            I guess the litmus test will be the SF. Then we shall know if WoSo is a considered a freak show by mainstream America.

          • TsovLoj

            Minnesota here: It definitely affected our local numbers. The northeast quadrant of the lower 48 cares a lot about hockey, and the hockey audience, like the women’s soccer audience, skews much whiter than the general population, so they’re fighting over the same demographic.

          • Steglitz49

            Thank you. Indeed. What of women’s hockey?

            As you may know the Japanese WNT in hockey beat Sweden in the WC in Sweden earlier this year. It was a day of wailing, groaning, moaning and beating of chests among the few Swedes who cared.

          • TsovLoj

            I don’t know about other states, but Minnesota’s state universities essentially dominate women’s hockey at the college level. There’s been talk at points about creating a WNHL, but nothing’s come of it yet.

          • Steglitz49

            Is Minnesota the univ with that marvelous rink and changing rooms with marble and gold taps and hardwood benches?

          • TsovLoj

            Probably? I don’t know anything about the decor of the changing rooms.

          • Steglitz49

            Maybe it is just in the ladies changing rooms?

    • weltmeister

      the wwc 2011 was in germany, the interst was very very big but
      7,5 million germans is AWESOME; very good.
      the uswnt play against china saw 5 million us, not good, no interest uswnt in the states, so sorry

      • Steglitz49

        Really? Only 5 million out of 315 million? <2%. 7.5m is 9% of 84m.

        Wonder how many in Japan and Australia will watch tonight, or England and Canada for that matter?

        • TsovLoj

          TBH, I think most Americans figured we were going to win and didn’t see a need to watch. I don’t think casual viewers here are aware of how the other powers have caught up. I’d expect those numbers to spike against Germany.

          • Steglitz49

            Indeed. Let’s hope that they do. Germany seems to be backsliding though. Have not seen any figures for France.

  • Broc

    Feeling so crushed for France…

    • Steglitz49

      Why? Thiney should have scored. She didn’t.

      • FootballNowAndAlways

        She appeared to think she was offside when the ball came through. She seemed to have a hesitant air about her on the attempt. Perhaps her execution was hamstrung by the expectation the goal would be nullified?

  • newsouth

    German fellow don’t fear. US team is like the Tet. Germany will prevail.

    I’d seen only one WC game this year when that unholy US team played. Saw hope taken away when i saw their bracket. I couldn’t believe it. After that, they made it to the semi-finals easily because most teams folded. Then they changed their line ups, the stadium doors opened and out they came, Coach Ellis and her brutes, stoned face, ready to mug. They had taken our hope, turned other nations against each other. A soul-less team with no humanity. The USWNT, what a juggernaut, bleeding life out of their opponents.

    Then the semi-finals arrived, I saw neid sit down, pick up a play book. she picked it up, she studied it, and i knew she’d find a way. When she steps in front of ellis to save our hopes. …
    I knew. she had a victory in her, somewhere. we just have to find a way to bring her best out with the soccer Gods. .: )

    • newsouth

      uswnt and ellis

      • Steglitz49

        The US can beat Germany. The only question is: will they? Not many thought that France could prevail against Germany — and they didn’t.

    • Steglitz49

      Tet? You’ve lost me. I thought Sylvester and Tweetie-pie won.

      • newsouth

        USSoccer – Tet
        NT – Clones
        Sally – Ellis

        Just adapt the story-line. Nope this helps.

        • Steglitz49

          Is it a variation on Miss Saigon?

  • leftbacklion

    That was the best game of the tournament I’ve seen so far. Before this it was Japan vs Netherlands. Here’s my takeaway: if you let France play their game, they are jogo bonito. The more you rattle them, the more likely they are to play kick-ball.

    • Steglitz49

      The US will face Germany, not France.

  • ARED

    Well, I think it’s fair to say that France got FIFA’d. Bad draw, refs cost them Colombia match, won group anyway setting up Germany match, questionable referee again, turf contributes to key injuries and helps make a few great chances a big tougher, and that’s pretty much that.

    Yes a good team steps up, stays focused, plays hard anyway, etc. But France did all that, despite constant predictions/claims/assumptions that they didn’t/wouldn’t.

    So my point is, well done France! The tournament will feel it is lacking something without you for at least one more round.

    • Jane

      Agreed. Terrific game but feel really sad for the French players. That was a very very good German team that they made look ordinary for long stretches of the game. They will forever regret the missed chances even more than the penalty miss. I’m sure they feel terrible but they are a joy to watch and should hold their head high.

  • Lord Zlatan

    Hate it when a match is decided by a penalty shoot out.

    • Steglitz49

      France had enough chances to win it. They did not take them. The refereeing could have been better but it was not atrocious.

  • guest

    Necib after the game : “It’s good to be the best. It’s another thing to win.”

    • eL cascador (RIP Cdr Wank)

      or also :

      Bergerôo : “There are 11 players in that group who will be there in 2019. It is important to learn that we can dominate without winning. It’s high priority for us to get the keys which make win games.”

  • nwslfan

    Fantastic game to watch. I was pulling for France, bc i know tbe players better. Gutted for Lavogez, but Bouhaddi didnt seem to lay out trying for the savable pks. I wanted to watch more.

  • guest