Ashlyn Harris leaves Tyresö, returning to Spirit

Jeff Kassouf December 16, 2013 268

Ashlyn Harris is headed back to the Washington Spirit. (Photo Copyright Amanda McCormick | www.amandamccormick8.com)

Ashlyn Harris won’t be finishing out the UEFA Champions League campaign with Tyresö.

The U.S. goalkeeper announced via her Instagram page that she is leaving the Swedish club, which qualified for Europe’s quarterfinals, to return to her NWSL club, the Washington Spirit. She was playing on loan with Tyresö.

The move comes in the wake of news that fellow Americans Christen Press, Meghan Klingenberg and Whitney Engen will stay with Tyresö until the end of the team’s Champions League run, whenever that may come. The trio will return to play in the NWSL — for yet undetermined teams — by June, at the latest. It is unclear whether or not U.S. defender and Washington Spirit defender Ali Krieger will stay in Sweden for the spring or return to the D.C. area.

Harris recently had minor knee surgery that kept her out of the United States’ December training camp, though she is expected to be recovered near the end of January.

Here’s the full statement from Harris:

Yes it is true. I’m sad to say I won’t be continuing with Tyresö and I will be staying in the NWSL this upcoming season. This decision has not been easy for me and it’s heavy on my heart I won’t continue this journey in champions league with such a wonderful group of people. It is important for me to thank all of my fans for the continued support, but most of all Tyresö for such a great opportunity. It was an honor to play for you and some of the best players in the world. To my teammates, you will always be my Queens. I love you to death. You can win this thing… I BELIEVE IN YOU ALL! #TyresoFF #CL”

Tyresö have already signed Finland goalkeeper Tinja-Riikka Korpela on a two-year deal, and she should get time immediately.

Tyresö face Austria’s SV Neulengbach in the quarterfinals and would play either Arsenal or Birmingham in the semifinals if they advance.

  • gerd karl

    and its the next player is under great pressure brought the home.
    it seems as if, ali krieger and gina lewandowski the only american players are winning the champions league.
    and with a german club, 1 ffc frankfurt 2008.

    poor megan rapinoe and all american players.

    • kevin

      SHE.WAS.ON.LOAN!!!!!

      • gerd karl

        if one has the opportunity to play champions league, then do not change it.great very great pressure of ussoccer.

      • Steglitz49

        Your point is well taken but to be fair to Fr Karl, if you take Ashlyn’s message at face value, she had a choice ["This decision has not been easy for me ..]. I think she chose wisely.

        Ashlyn made some critcal saves for Tyresö, not least in the first (home) leg against PSG and should Tyresö lift the trophy in Lisbon next May, Ashlyn should put it on her CV!

        • JAMES

          TYRESO needs a good keeper,its one of their weaknesses. I had hoped ASH would stay through the CL. However,she’s on loan so nothing wrong with going back to her team.

        • Sebastian

          But played at a mediocre level at best in the few league games. Both she and Krieger was solely responsible for at least one league game lost. Krieger played ok later on, but Harris left me wanting…

          • EbaJ

            Really???? Did you watch the matches? I can tell you they wanted both Krieger and Harris back.

          • Sebastian

            Yes, In fact I did watch some games, did you? As I said, Krieger played better later on, and in the CL games, but Harris wasn’t better than the regular goalie. US citizenship doesn’t automatically make you best you know.

          • Steglitz49

            I share your view that Ms Harris ought not to be a challenger for keeping goal for the US, and not even for the #3 spot.

      • newsouth

        get a grip. i’m just having fun with the story. the world of women’s soccer isn’t life and death. fans can have fun with stories,just like any sport. some of you guys are too obsessed with these ladies. thanks.

        • ctsmith73

          That is rich.

      • newsouth

        sorry, the comment was meant for ctsmith73

      • Silver Frost

        Just quit replying to this German troll. Boycott karl gerd.

      • Lindsey

        Agreed, Kevin. I have a feeling that commenters are forgetting that Krieger and Harris both signed contracts with Washington Spirit for two full seasons. Since CL runs at the same time that the NWSL does of course Harris (and most likely Krieger as well) has to leave Sweden since they are legally obligated to be in Washington. It doesn’t help that Kassouf mentioned Press, Kling, and Engen as Americans who are coming back to the US to play in the NWSL without distinguishing the difference. The reason why Press, Kling, and Engen left Sweden is totally different from the reason why Harris has to leave.

        • Silver Frost

          Press, Kling, and Engen are currently in the offseason for TFF and spend time in WNT camps. In two months they’ll be back in Sweden fighting for the CL cup. I hope they win it all, which will be a great lesson to all other NTs that our US women are winners in the EU style of futbol.

          • Steglitz49

            Ms Engen has nothing to prove. She helped Liverpool Ladies go from last to first in the FAWSL. It is, probably, one of the reasons if not the main why the NT has become interested in her.

        • Steglitz49

          Yet Harris states that “This decision has not been easy for me”, which suggests tat she had a choice.

          As I contended, Ashlyn took the wise path.

          • ctsmith73

            Well, to be precise, “This decision” could mean anyone made the decision. Which suggests a bit more is afoot than just fulfilling one’s contractual obligations.

          • Steglitz49

            That is why it is better to say nothing. “Never apologize; never explain” is a sensible maxim.

        • Sebastian

          Of course a contract is binding, but in the womens game a signed contract is something else than in the mens game. Since many women earn far less than their men counterparts, they could brake a contract and still not face any repercussions if lucky That’s basically what happened to Swedish Kopparbergs/Göteborg FC with their English Jodie Taylor signing. As I recall, she wasn’t bought out from Birmingham, but on a loan, but they said that the loan-contract was binding. Though Göteborg FC said basically that they wouldn’t pursue the matter, since there isn’t much to to do. Should they force her to stay out? Should they sue her? For what?…Jodie went back to England, and later stated that she signed for an Australian team, which as far as I know, is still her club.

          Jodie was the no 2 striker in the league, when she left the Göteborg club, and the biggest reason why they finished so poorly in the autumn, and only got the fourth place.

          • kevin

            There is also Andrine Hegerberg she signed with Goteberg over the summer while she was still with Potsdam.

          • tom fruin

            Her younger sister, Ada, is the more talented though. Andrine couldn’t make this last summer’s Norway’s NT or Potsdam’s starting lineup

          • kevin

            heard she was injured that’s why she didn’t make the team.

          • tom fruin

            she’s not listed on for the recent Euro qualifiers either. But Melis, arguably the quickest player in the world, has just transferred to Goteberg from Malmo, So maybe they’ll made a good combination up front?

          • Steglitz49

            Hear hear! Gbg considered taking legal action both initially and again when the lady turned up in Australia.

            As I remember it, the lady was level pegging it with Ms Press when she absconded. It cost Gbg success and, who knows, the lady might have won the Swedish Goal Queen trophy had she honored her obligations!

  • gerd karl

    oh, ashlyn harris go home, then comes ali krieger back home.

    • kernel_thai

      They are on loan. Why would Tyreso think Washington would play without two of it’s best players for two months? When Conny Pohlers was on loan from Wolfsburg last season no one expected her to remain with Washington. She was expected to return to her club at the end of the NWSL season, which she did.

      • Steglitz49

        Why do you think Real Tyresö has been signing new players?

        • JAMES

          Maybe they know something we are clueless about?

        • tom fruin

          lotsa mullah??? who have they signed up for the coming season?

          • Steglitz49

            A lot of rumours abound but so far the only confirmed signing is the Finnish goalie Tinja-Riikka Korpela,

            Those leaving (apart from Ashlyn) are Kirsten van de Ven, the Dutch international who goes to Malmö, now called Rosengård, and Sara Thunebro, who moves to the newly promoted Eskilstuna United, but more are expected to leave once the Champions League run is over.

            It is hoped that Tyresö will sign Swedes but judging by the goalie, that seems a forlorn hope.

      • Silver Frost

        Don’t reply to this troll meister punk.

  • Elaine

    What’s with the status of Krieger? If she was also on loan then DC should expect her back along with Harris.

    • clioamare007

      I think she’ll return to DC as well. The news regarding her contract status should come soon.

    • Silver Frost

      In other news, Tymrak has signed a two year deal with FCKC, and Jodie Taylor (ENG) has signed with DC. Taylor has just joined Lianne Sanderson (Boston) in England in a call-up for the English WNT under new coach Mark Sampson.

      • Elaine

        Thanks! Glad to hear Tymrak chooses one of our teams in the NWSL instead of those overseas. So is Jodie the answer to the forward issue in DC? I hope so.

  • newsouth

    kreiger is going to be in a fight the next 18 mths for the right back spot, and you are writing it’s unclear while harris is running back to washington. let me do it for you. kreiger is going back to washington and harris will be on her coat -tail.

    • ctsmith73

      Is there some special reason why you are so disrespectful in some of your posts?

      • newsouth

        get a grip. i’m just having fun with the story. the world of women’s soccer isn’t life and death. fans can have fun with stories,just like any sport. some of you guys are too obsessed with these ladies.

        • ctsmith73

          That is rich.

        • guest

          ie, I just admitted to being a troll, even though that’s old news for anyone who knows newsouth

  • Bluenun

    USSF is a bully. I know they want this league to survive, this is not how to do it! Maybe they should pay a fair wage so the best players will want to play here! Forcing people to play here will backfire eventually ! Please don’t try and twist it ,they were on loan blah blah, anything can be worked out ex. Heath and Pinoe!

    • kevin

      what part of She was on LOAN don’t you understand?

      • Bluenun

        The USSF pays them and has their contracts. They are there employers!

        • Steglitz49

          Respect, Loving Milkmaid! We know that Blue Nun saved the German wine industry from extinction after the war, and your point that some players are awarded more leaway that others is well taken but it is also well known.

          Maybe one fine day the NWSL will be able to pay higher wages than teams in Europe. It may be a long way away but who would have thought that Japan would be World Champions in Germany in 2011? All in good time.

          • Silver Frost

            Better to have dependable low salary in NWSL than being lied to and not paid for months by Dan Magicjack and other charlatans in the WPS.

        • kernel_thai

          Let’s say u own a business and ur trying to break into the lucrative Ultrasonic Waffle business. U contract two engineers from Engineers R’Us to design ur product. When u arrive at work u find a letter from ERU saying those two engineers that u r depending on will be two months late to start ur project despite the contract. Explain to me how it’s ok for ur company to sit there and lose money to help out ERU and whoever ur employees r working for? How is this fair to the Spirit? U want to work it out…here’s how u can work it out. In June Tyreso can loan Marta and Bouquete to Washington. Of course this ruins the rest of Tyreso season but at least it makes up for having two of DC’s best players out for a third of the season.

    • Davis

      Yeah! How dare the USSF keep offering players these opportunities with the national team? And players clearly have no choice but to accept those opportunities! It’s outrageous! They’re practically dragging these women across the Atlantic and forcing them onto the USWNT roster at gun point. If anyone in the USSF had any soul at all they would stop foisting these clearly unwanted national team opportunities on these poor, helpless players.

      • bluenun

        Ha Ha clearly you have no real understanding of whats going on! Maybe writing fiction!

  • EasyRidah

    Why do they everything together? Are they a couple or what??

    • Anna

      Unless you know Ashlyn’s true reasons behind making this decision, don’t judge.

      • rufan

        i thought its known that they are

        • Anna

          They are but just because they are doesn’t mean that has to be THE reason for making this decision.

          • kernel_thai

            It’s officially couples week in the NWSL btw. Is Morgan going to Houston? Will Krieger and Harris be playing together? Will WNY protect Huffman from the expansion draft? Will the Cone stay together? It’s not easy being a professional athlete because their careers r so short they sometimes have to make tough personal decisions. Hopefully this one works out for Harris.

        • Cris

          Widely speculated, not known.

        • Sydonia

          At least Lianne Sanderson and Joanna Lohman of the Breakers are an out couple.

  • Steglitz49

    I know this is a bit off topics, unless you count that 3 of Canada’s NT players either play or have played in Sweden, but last night Chile caused the upset of the year when they defeated Canada 1-0 in the ongoing Brazil tournament. The goal came off a freekick.

    Chile has not played internationals in 18 months before this tournament and therefore shares last place (118th) in FIFA’s ranking, while Canada is ranked 7th (after Sweden, who just dropped below France), though a Chilean club team, Colo-Colo from Santiago, competed in the MobCast cup representing COMMEBOL.

    • Elaine

      Herdman’s quote: “thank God it’s not the World Cup.”

      • newsouth

        if he don’t fix in back problem with ” “, then it will be the same result at the WC. outside of Sinclair having an out of the world OGs, what has he done exactly with Canada outside of throwing players under the bus?

        • Silver Frost

          Please Herdman, keep ignoring Courtnall.

    • Anna

      This shows why you’ve been commenting too much here. This is about Ashlyn Harris, not Chili. Take this somewhere else.

      • Steglitz49

        “All the news that is fit to print”, is the NYT’s motto. That Ms Harris goes back to DC is not news; it was expected. The opposite would have been news.

        Look on the bright side of life. Think outside the box. The Equalizer can’t cover everything but seeing as Canada is together with Mexico a founding member of the NWSL, I thought I would lend a hand because this was news fit to electronize.

        • Anna

          Yeah no. There’s no reason to think outside of the box here. It’s like we’re talking about puppies and you decide to talk about the rain. Invalid argument.

      • Silver Frost

        EQ has absolutely no coverage of this interesting tourney in Brazil. I watched most of the CAN v HCI game, which was astonishing. Herdman has a long way to go to whip his charges into WC shape. Stegmiester should be given some slack here.

        • Anna

          Actually no. If ya’ll think the coverage of that is whack then talk to someone on EQ about that. No need to just randomly begin a discussion about that in a topic which in no way has anything to do with that. Just a thought.

        • Steglitz49

          Thank you for your support. I will wear it always.

          In he same viein I was thinking that Harjeet covered Euro-13 for us in great detail in Sweden, yet an interesting aspect is how little effect that tournament with its record attendances has had long term, at least in Sweden.

          The audience that went to the matches were men, women and children of all ages. Euro-13 was a family affair, the way men’s football rarely is. But, when autumn came, those families had other things to do. No beneficial effect accrued to the women’s top division. Many wanted to be at the party; the weekday was equally as uninteresting to audiences as to the media.

          If the NWSL can break through this freak show image and establish a viable league, more power to its elbows.

          • Silver Frost

            Portland led the way in NWSL, and Houston followed. I can’t wait to see the attendance data for the new Dash. If the data are good and Dash breaks even in the first years, then other MLS teams will invest in a women’s side. We could see 20 teams in NWSL in ten years. As for SWE, old leagues never die, despite low attendance.

    • gerd karl

      canada oh my cod, she lost against chile
      herdman makes a very very very good job.

      • tom fruin

        Frankfurt’s coach is from England too. and look how good they’re doing(in 1st place in the Bundesliga) playing the classic counter attacking style(then the ponderously slow, dominate the middle like Neid & Kellerman does)

    • kernel_thai

      Ive sort of been wondering while a story about this hasnt popped up here.

      • Steglitz49

        The Equalizer can’t cover everything. Stands to reason. Jeff relies on the odd commentator keeping her or his ear to the ground. I suspect Jeff is working up to a report of the whole tournament, including an in depth analysis of what happened in this match and whether the Chilean lasses are a threat in WC-15.

      • Silver Frost

        Maybe we’ll see a story after the group stage on Wed.

    • tom fruin

      Let’s just say Herdman’s 15 year old prodigy, Jessie Fleming, still has some growing up to do. As you mentioned, Colo Colo, aka, Chile NT, been quite busy with weeks prior to that playing in the South American club championships(about the time the US played Brazil, since some of their best players were in that tourney too). Chile also has one of the world’s best goalkeepers in Christine Enders.

      • Steglitz49

        Let’s hope Chile makes it to WC-15 though the qualification procedure is biased against the South-American teams.

        • Greg

          Agree 100%. Not sure how CONCACAF ends up with 3.5 slots (4.5 if you include Canada as host) and CONMEBOL only gets 2.5. At least for this cycle it should have been reversed.

          • Steglitz49

            One explanation is that it could be a weasel method of ensuring that all the founder members of the NWSL get to play in Canada in 2015.

        • tom fruin

          Chile just came up with a 4-3 come from behind win against Scotland,. They’ll take on Brazil in the tourney championship game(Brazil tied Canada, 0-0).

    • Greg

      Thanks for the update, Steglitz. Very very interesting result.

      • Steglitz49

        WC-15 looks like shaping up nicely. Let’s hope the refereeing is on par.

  • kevin

    For the last time people read the article. SHE.WAS.ON.LOAN. Harris was on loan to Tyreso just like Tymrak was on loan to Bayern. Why is it so hard for people to comprehend this simple fact. This is not a conspiracy it is a fact THEY WERE ON LOAN.

  • ruby4

    Loan, noun. Definition:

    1. The act of lending; a grant of the temporary use of something: The loan of a book.

    2. Something lent or furnished on condition of being returned,especially a sum of money lent at interest: a $1000 loan at 10percent interest.

    Key Word: TEMPORARY

    • givemeabreak

      Boo Hoo and she would have lost to one of your precious German teams anyway. Tyreso has failed to keep two key players and are in danger of losing more.

      • givemeabreak

        Sorry this is for that Karl troll

        • gerd karl

          why troll, mein süsser

        • Silver Frost

          Just don’t respond to the troll.

  • gerd karl

    ussoccer has once again shown how much he pressure that brings players inside home.
    this has to reasons:

    1.ussoccer wants to build the nwsl, all known top player to play in the nwsl.
    23 players come to ussoccer pool, and get 30-40 000 dollar per year of ussoccer, plus the content of their nwsl club.
    which are together 60-70 000 dollar

    the players are not in the ussoccer pool, must play for 20 000 dollar per year .

    2. the owners of nwsl clubs get enough players to be played for very little money in the nwsl.

    canada has lost to chile 1-0, it would have been better canada had established its own league.

    • Steglitz49

      Although I see the direction you are coming from and have some sympathy for your view, nevertheless in Ms Harris case I contend that she has made the correct decision.

      Ms Harris is American. It makes sense for her to play in her own land (she has had a spell in Germany and now Sweden). Her NWSL team, DC, can expect to get some real talent this time round, so it should be more fun than last season. DC has fabulous fans.

      In short, Ashlyn has chosen wisely.

      • gerd karl

        oh men, she could have played champions league

        • givemeabreak

          Boo Hoo and she would have lost to one of your precious German teams anyway. Tyreso has failed to keep two key players and are in danger of losing more.

          • Steglitz49

            For Real Tyresö to meet a German team it has to be in the final.

            The romantic final would be Tyresö-Potsdam because both have very supportive fans and are not wealthy clubs. They did, indeed, put two rich teams to the sword.

            If you want big capital to rule then Arsenal-VW — sorry, Wolfsburg — would be your final.

          • Are you serious?

            T¥R€$Ö

          • gerd karl

            tyresö won the champions league, NEVER

          • Steglitz49

            Tyresö, like Potsdam and FF, have loyal fans who dig deep into their own pockets. They have some limited local sponsorship.

            Tyresö cannot at all be compared to the Shewolves, who are subsidiary of VW (the CEO of VW is the chairman of the club) or women’s sides belonging to wealthy clubs like Arsenal, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Lyon, PSG etc etc.

          • Silver Frost

            Don’t respond to this troll.

          • gerd karl

            you are a troll.

        • guest

          Women’s champions league is nowhere as prestigious as the men’s.

          • Steglitz49

            Not yet, but well on the way.

          • kernel_thai

            And when women’s FIFA World Club Championships r in full swing in a couple years? UEFA CL becomes nothing more than a qualifying tournament.

          • Elaine

            FIFA Club World Cup? That would be something to get excited about for women’s soccer worldwide.

          • Steglitz49

            Not really. The Champions League is glamorous enough.

          • Elaine

            Why limit oneself?

          • Silver Frost

            How would anyone organize such an event with league’s having seasons end on vastly different dates?

          • Elaine

            I don’t know. How does it work on the men’s side?

          • Steglitz49

            It doesn’t really. The reality is that for men’s club soccer, the Champions League and the FA Cup are the two big trophies, that trump all else. The other ones are sideshows. Even the German domestic cup has no pulling power outside Germany. It is trivial compared to the FA cup.

          • Steglitz49

            As Silver Frost points out, the practical issues are not insignificant. No NWSL team played in the MobCast cup.

            The MobCast cup has now been run for the 2nd time. The first time Lyon, as winners of the Champions League somehow found the time to go to Japan and play. This year, Wolfsburg were not able to rearrange their schedule, the She-wolves having already had to rearrange matches.

            The Japanese organizers persuaded Chelsea Ladies, who are on their winter break, to come and play in VW’s place. Chelsea have Yuki Ogimi, an added attraction in Japan.

            The MobCast cup lets Japanese fans of ladies soccer see some stars in Japan. The attendances are OK given everything. Long may it last. Best of luck to it.

          • kernel_thai

            Only if ur from Europe. To follow ur theory we can cancel the men and women World Cup because they have Euros.

          • Steglitz49

            A player can play in the Champions league by being good enough to be signed by a team in UEFA. Nothing prevents other regions of FIFA to set up their own inter-country club challenge cup. Japan has started the MobCast cup for the ladies, which is intercontinental.

            The Euros for men may well go the way of the Dodo. For the ladies, they had a record attendance this year with sold out stadia, so UEFA are expected to carry on. We just do not know which country will run Euro-17.

          • morgs

            Not sure, but I get the impression that the FIFA world club for the men is at best comparable to the CL but not really their biggest crowning achievement, at least for the Europeans. And if not, so what? If the men can be so thrilled winning the CL, why can’t the women. I think it’s easy to speak out of the perspective of a fan whose career and achievements doesn’t really matter compared to the actual player for whom it does very much.

          • kernel_thai

            On the men’s side most of the best players r in Europe so it works. On the women’s side most of the current world champions play in Japan and most of the Olympic champions play in the US so the UEFA WCL is often as much about who isnt there as it is who is there.

          • Steglitz49

            I am not persuaded. For male players, the three top cup trophies are the World Cup, the Champions League and the FA Cup.

            For the ladies the Champions League is already well established. Glamorous. Also the Algarve cup but it is not a club event.

            Domestic cups like the ladies FA, 40 years old, the Swedish cup 30+ years old, and the French and German cups, do not have the same status as the FA Cup. Maybe the English can pull it off for the ladies too?

          • gerd karl

            you have no idea of the champions league
            about the womens champions league is reported worldwide.

        • rufan

          Why should that be a concern for her employee, USSF?

          • kernel_thai

            Or the Washington Spirit? Why does anyone in Washington care about who wins a club championship in Europe in any sport? Do people in Europe live or die on who wins the baseball World Series?

          • morgs

            Spirit don’t care. But two of their star players do. And keeping your players at the very least content should be part of a successful club philosophy, or at least, the Spirit should care to not alienate two of their star players, because we are talking players who are good enough to be sought out by pretty much all teams out there. I’m not saying the Spirit were in the wrong by holding their to their contract, but let’s hope it doesn’t come back to bite them in the ass later.

          • Elaine

            All of our USNT players are sought by teams everywhere. If the NWSL teams just loan them out without them returning, where would that leave our league?

          • morgs

            It’s a fair point, but maybe the NWSL should make it worthwhile enough for the players to want to stay. Starting by longer seasons so that players don’t seek out opportunities to play elsewhere to begin with.

          • Elaine

            Maybe someone else knows the answer to as why the NWSL do not have a longer season. I’m not sure myself.

          • morgs

            it has to do with some teams sharing their fields with local/college teams. As an overall fan, I understand it’s a work in progress for the NWSL and that it is their goal to make it a stable strong league that players want to play in. At the same time, I also understand individual players own career goals and the fact that even a few years is eternity in terms of their whole career and that it can be quite a big sacrifice on their part. It’s tough for everyone.

          • Ben

            I’m still baffled why people think the players are being forced to do anything. They can easily make the choice to play in Europe but that comes with the risk that if you are not a star already on the NT, you can forget about making the team.

            Again, this is basically the free market in action people. Basically, spots on the national team is at a premium therefore, USSF controls that market and basically call all the shots. Therefore, they can afford to make demands like all players should play locally or else. It is up to these players to take it or leave it. Or better yet, if they think Europe is that much better to them in improving their game, they can tell USSF to shove and go to Europe. Years from now if they have improved leaps and bounds than the power will be in their hands.

          • morgs

            Isn’t that contradictory to call it a free market but that it is “controlled by USSF which calls all the shots”? One would call that a monopoly. An actual free market would allow players to go wherever they want without restrictions

          • Ben

            No I consider it free market because the market is being governed by demand and supply. Right now there is an influx of supply for far too few demand hence, USSF have the power. If the USA was some country that had far too few good players, it is the players that would be controlling things

          • Silver Frost

            Agree. Tell the Premier League to stop transferring players in January against their will. Ha! LOL. USSF is far more laid back than Premier League in how they deal with players who wish to play outside of the NWSL. I’m just saying things could be far more restrictive for US women.

          • Steglitz49

            Please can you explain your comment. I can’t follow it. The Premier League does not control the English men’s NT. I am lost.

          • JAMES

            The Premier League doesn’t transfer players, its the individual Teams that transfer players.

          • Steglitz49

            Serfdom.

          • Davis

            In terms of what constitutes a free market, Ben is correct. In a truly free market monopolies can and will emerge. Monopolies are prevented by governments imposing restrictions on the market, essentially limiting how free the “free” market is. Governments will do this to promote competition and protect consumers, but it is contrary to the idea of a true free market.

            The USSF, however, is not a monopoly. Not anymore. They are no longer the only option around for female soccer players, they are simply the best option around. There is now more competition for players services than there ever has been before, which is why this conversation is even possible. Players are being presented with multiple options for their careers. Some of these options are in conflict with one another, meaning players must choose which option they want more. Thus far players seem to be unanimously choosing the option US Soccer is presenting to them.

          • Ben

            Thanks for explaining this better than I could.

          • D23

            Most players, however, do not have an alternative NT option. If they want to play international football they must play for the US. So in that sense, in the sense of international football, it is a monopoly. Sure their club football is a different story. But most federations are not involved in controlling a player’s club football in the way USSF clearly is. It is the fact that USSF is so involved in the domestic careers of its players that makes this situation unique and has led to some issues as decisions to play or not play in a USSF linked domestic league can have ramifications for whether they even get to participate in football in the international sphere; and there are no alternative options for players in the international sphere. This situation is complicated and I don’t think it can be neatly described by any term borrowed from the discipline of economics.

          • Steglitz49

            Hear hear! It is the dream of any sports person, lady or man, to pull on the national kit and represent one’s country and, hopefully, to win top honors.

            The size of the US and the depth, breadth and height of its talent makes the USWNT for soccer unique in the world. Neither Japan, current world champions, nor Germany, the previous champs, nor Norway for sure, have this wealth.

            At the same time, soccer essentially is a game played at club level. The World Cup only comes along once every four years while the club domestic leagues, cups and competitions like the Champions League are yearly events.

            Where women’s pro-soccer will land is unclear. It seems that in Europe the wealthy clubs are reordering the landscape in a fraction of the time it took for the men. We could end up with two parallel systems — the Euro-Asian axis and the NWSL. Not that long ago, club teams in South-America were comparable to the best in Europe. That is no longer so. A scary thought.

          • Davis

            The problem with that is that players are not forced to play for the national team. They want to play for the national team. The USSF is not controlling players’ domestic careers. Players are making decisions regarding their careers that will put them in the best position to make the national team. That is their choice. If they would rather play with their club team, they are free to do that. It would just mean sacrificing their standing with the national team.

          • D23

            Your argument was that USSF is not a monopoly. My response was that at the international level, for players who want to play NT football, it is because players cannot shop themselves around in this sphere of football as they would in a market system. Just because you choose to not participate in a particular system does not make that system something other than what it is. If there was no international football at all do you really think that this many US players would play in a system with a short season, externally set, non-negotiable salaries and no final say on which club they play for? The reason some are accepting this is not simply because this is the best club football option for them out there but because, as you point out, they want to play for the NT. Now you are right that that is a choice. But lets not pretend USSF does not get traction with the players domestically because it also controls the NT. The US is the only federation I am aware of where the line between domestic and international is so blurred. The issue for many people is whether or not they think this is acceptable (particularly if players may be earning less as a result) and people have differing views which is fine. Some people don’t think that you should necessarily have to sacrifice playing in a foreign league in order to get an NT position, others are OK with this.

          • NYRick

            Good post, well said.

          • Davis

            “But lets not pretend USSF does not get traction with the players domestically because it also controls the NT.”

            Of course the USSF has traction with the players and their career decisions. That’s the point. Right now the appeal of the NT is greater than the appeal of the club teams. Club teams can change this simply by making players an offer that is more appealing than what the national team can offer. If players are willing to accept less money, they must feel as if the potential benefits are worth the sacrifice. So what’s the issue?

          • Steglitz49

            Although the wealthy men’s clubs are wealthy, they are not prepared to spend unlimited amounts on their ladies (yet).

            Instead of bothering to acquire excellent American lasses, they will botanize in countries where women really do not earn much at all — and whose countries are not certain to qualify for the world cup in a walk. Europe, Africa, South-America, Japan and Asia — the world outside the US.

            The losers will be not only American lasses who are not picked in the draft but also the whole community of women’s soccer. The gain will be the young ladies from the poor countries who get their chance. It is not all negative.

          • kernel_thai

            Which is why all the world’s best NT players should play in NWSL. This is the perfect environment for NT players…it’s just not very good for the clubs. The biggest problem with NT player plying their club trade abroad is they tend to miss NT practices and games. Not NWSL players. If their NT calls they send them no questions asked. They dont seem to care about FIFA windows or how much their club needs them. NWSL is NT paradise.

          • Steglitz49

            Pro-soccer is a business. To conduct business you have rules and regulations. Pro-soccer is a product that is sold to an audience.

            People come to see their team, club or NT, win and to see the stars play. It is just like a circus, a ballet or a play.

            Clubs must be able to rely on players whom they pay to be available and NTs that they are released. That is why we have FIFA windows.

            If women want pro-soccer and if they want a free market, then they had better fight for freedom and not serfdom.

            It may be that the FIFA windows should be a day or two longer for the ladies than the men but soccer likes to have the same rules for women as for men and it is difficult to see why it needs to be different. It takes the same time for Messi to fly to Argentina as for Ms Press to the US.

          • Silver Frost

            This is an interesting contradiction: footie is a business, yet no business is free. I would hardly call it serfdom. Players can go where they please, and pledge loyalty to a club owner for a set period of time. Serfs are tied to the landlord for life with no rights.

          • Steglitz49

            If the only way you can be chosen to play for the USNT is to play in the NWSL, then you are not free.

            It goes without typing that not all who play in the NWSL can get on the squad for WC-15 but if it is an (unwritten) requirement that you do not get to go unless you play in the NWSL, then you are not free, however you dress it up.

            It may well be in the best interest not only for the USNT but for women all over the world, who want to play pro-soccer, that the NWSL floursihes and, if it only can floursih if the USNT win the world cup, more power to their elbows.

          • Silver Frost

            College kids on the NT are not in the NWSL. How to explain this contradiction to serfdom?

            I must add that this comment section is unbelievably long. It must be the dearth of EQ articles in the past week.

          • Steglitz49

            Which college kid is playing abroad? Lindsey Horan did not even go to UNC or wherever she was headed. There is always an exception that proves the rule.

          • framboat

            Just to play a little devil’s advocate (what follows isn’t necessarily my personal opinion)…

            If the ultimate goal for a footballer is to play for the NT on the World Cup stage, isn’t it a little bit like holding someone’s talent/development hostage to force them to play in a particular club league? Right now, because of USSF’s involvement with NWSL they may be pushing the “play on home soil, play in our league” “stay in eyesight, stay on the team, stay on the payroll” which is understandable athlettically and financially as the NT gears up for the World Cup… except players ARE getting noticeably better from abroad experiences. (It isn’t just about the soccer, but about the experiences… both of which have historically been good for American players). Foudy, Solo, Rapinoe, Krieger, Press – they have all grown from playing in international leagues. Those on the male side strive to play abroad, and it doesn’t affect their NT placement.

            You can understand how this can rub fans/observers the wrong way. But again, it’s a hard balance between creating a women’s league that can be sustained in America, with also continuing the legacy of the USWNT.

            (The issue I have is that I feel like a lot of talent has been overlooked abroad, and I don’t like the idea of sacrificing combining the absolute best players for the NT, just to ensure that the NWSL works)

          • NYRick

            And another good post on the topic. I think one point that we are all missing a bit though regarding this whole club/NT thing as it pertains to the US is the “popularity” of the player. That’s the true grey area. It is very easy to play games with the Engens, Presses and Horans of the world. When they mess with Alex, than the rubber meets the road. Point is, it will never happen.

            If Alex was the one in Sweden or Germany or Japan, there would be exceptions made. That’s my only problem with the USSF/NWSL position on the matter. What’s good for one is good for all. Alex could play her club soccer on the surface of the moon and the USSF would make exceptions for her and her starting spot will still be there. Is she a good player deserving starting? Certainly yes, but there is some major comp right behind her if not better.

          • kernel_thai

            Really? Alex Morgan? Alex Morgan who wanted to play in Seattle where her bf played but ended up playing in Portland? That Alex Morgan? Ur right…obviously the league would make an exception for her. Certainly the USSF wouldnt try and get her to do something she didnt want to do.

          • NYRick

            Seattle and Portland are obviously in close proximity so that wasn’t a major issue. Guaranteed that if was told to play in DC it wasn’t happening. That Alex Morgan.

          • Steglitz49

            It would seem that Pinoe and Tobin already qualify as exceptions. I suppose we shall truly know when 2015 starts.

          • Davis

            My problem is with people claiming that US Soccer is somehow doing something wrong. The USSF is simply acting in a way that they believe will give them the best chance to win the world cup. That is precisely what they should be doing. Quite literally their only job is to put together national teams that can win. Their job isn’t to make players happy or accommodate soccer clubs. It’s the players’ job to pursue their own happiness and clubs’ jobs to put together winning teams, the USSF has no interest in either. Every party in this situation is pursuing their own best interest, and to suggest that they should do otherwise is bizarre.

            Yes, some players are getting better playing overseas (some players aren’t, but that’s neither here nor there), and in off years the USSF appears to have zero problem with players playing abroad instead of the NSWL. They only have a problem with it when it starts interfering with world cup preparation. Because the reality is that this has nothing to do with supporting the NWSL and everything to do with winning the world cup. Players getting better overseas does the USWNT no good if their players are never able to gel together as a team because they’re limited to FIFA date training camps.

          • NYRick

            Let’s not forget that Germany pulled this “all our players play their club soccer in Germany crap” in 2010 and leading to and/before WC11. How did that turn out?

          • Steglitz49

            Your point is well taken except for “because they’re limited to FIFA date training camps”. FIFA introduced the dates to protect poor countries because clubs were not releasing their foreign players for international duty such as qualifications for the world cup and local international tournaments. It was for the sake of the countries and for fairness.

            Self-evidently, NTs can play and train outside the FIFA windows but the clubs are not obliged to release their players. One of the reasons given why a certain player jumped ship at the last second from Gbg to Tyresö was that Tyresö would allow her more time off to train with the USNT, but even the good burghers of Tyresö have limits.

            Ms Engen joined Liverpool Ladies, who went from last to first in the FAWSL and are now qualified to play in the next Champions League. Liverpool have said that they understand that Ms Engen wants to increase her chances of playing in the WC by leaving them and take her chances in the NWSL. Let’s hope that Liverpool win the Champions League at their first attempt, the way that all the German clubs have.

          • Steglitz49

            All players want to play for their country. They all do.

            In countries with little money, players go abroad because they earn more. They tend to be the best players.

            The issue is rather whether there is (not so) covert pressure from the USSF on players. It is one thing that a player may decide to take her chances. It is another to be told between four eyes that unless you come and play in the NWSL you will not be selected. Freedom vs bondage.

          • Silver Frost

            You could say the same thing about women in the German league. This freedom versus bondage meme is hyperbolic. As far as I know, American women are free to sign contracts with NWSL. If they want to play abroad then the USSF grants the foreign team permission, as in the case of Press, etc. Slaves in bondage are not free to do anything.

          • Steglitz49

            Ms Press (re)built her career in Sweden, first with Gbg and now with Tyresö. Yet, as you indicate, if this talented player wants to have any chance to play in WC-15, she must make obeisance to USSF, Likewise Ms Engen and Ms Brooks.

            It is the longetrm damage to the development of women’s pro-soccer that is the true concern. At all costs has a price.

          • Silver Frost

            In pro sports money will win out in the end. If they xcan show a good bottom line then they survive. NWSL is not really a pro league, propped up by USSF, and CSA. BTW, it is USSF that makes obeisance to Press and the others by acceding to their wishes to play abroad.

          • Steglitz49

            They say that if you take care of the top line, the bottom line will look after itself.

            Women’s soccer will remain soccer-lite till someone unlocks the marketing mystery. The beach-volley ball route might work in warm climates, like Florida and Texas, but has little chance elsewhere. Nevertheless, Blatter had a point all those years ago when he voiced the obvious argument that a pro-sport has to have customers. He was not terribly diplomatic in his choice of ideas but nevertheless one American soccer player made the most of those and minted them for herself.

          • kernel_thai

            While what u say is true, where r all the foreign NT players in the NWSL? If it’s just USSoccer then ud think their would be a growing number of young NTers looking for change. That’s not the case. While money is a big factor another factor is none of the NTs want their players playing far from home during the WC.

          • D23

            Well for a start there is a limit on the number of international players in a team. Then there is the fact that a lot of international players are already playing in leagues that, at least for some of the season, cross over with the US league. So if an NWSL clubs wants one of these players they have to use an international slot on a player who is available for only half the season. Then there is the issue of the salary cap so the figure offered may not be that competitive. Australians, I think are a good example of all these factors. They took up 5 international slots last year (Foord, Kerr, De Vanna, Van Egmond and Simon). The W-League does not cross over which makes them available for a full season and it is also not at all well paid which makes even NWSL salaries attractive. So there are bunch of them were. For many international players why bother relocating to play in a short season (maybe half a season) for what is not going to be great money. There is also the issue that US leagues have a history of collapsing and then players may be left in the lurch; Ali Riley, for example, has stated she has a wait and see approach to the NWSL for this reason. The reality is the NWSL right now is not that attractive option for many international players.

          • Elaine

            NWSL sure has an uphill battle to climb. If this league is not attractive for international players due to short season/money and it is not attractive for current NT players due to CL/money, then who will be the players playing in the NWSL for people in the US to see?

          • kernel_thai

            They r also required to play in the W-league. If u take out the players on a few rich teams I think u would find the money for a good internationals comparable. They certainly arent coming to the NWSL to get rich but they arent going to starve either. The truth is every NT has a stake in promoting their product at home and keeping their players close. The USSF is just in a better position to turn the screws because they directly run the league and control the players. This isnt about the NWSL Most of the German NT players play in Germany…most of the French in France, most of the English in England. When u get exceptions it is mostly a money thing. In these cases distance isnt a factor. Im sure Bresonik doesnt miss much being in Paris. All the NTs want their players home growing the sport in their own country.

          • D23

            This is a serious question – where did you see that they are required to play in the W-League.

            I didn’t say players would starve coming to the NWSL – but what are the incentives to play in the NWSL if it is not about earning more money than they currently make. For high quality players more and more clubs are offering bigger salaries. What is the NWSL offering that players currently playing in Europe, in particular, currently don’t have? Another serious question because I am genuinely curious – what international players would you be targeting to play in the NWSL who you believe, under the current system with a cap, you could get for either a full or partial season?

            And if USSF is not different from other federations in the way in which it wants its players playing in their own domestic competitions then, based on what is happening with the current cycle, internationals would only be available for the NWSL one season in four anyway (by USSF’s own example the qualifying year and the WC year are out for overseas play and I am presuming the Olympic year will be too).

          • Steglitz49

            Hear hear! Add to this the glamour of winning the Champions League and that in most countries, including Japan, you play for both a league trophy and a challenge cup (except in England where there are 2 Cups to win).

          • Steglitz49

            Young ladies in the US who are keen on playing soccer should keep one of those Teddy Roosevelt memorial teddy bears that the National Wild Life refuge used to sell. For all I know they may still do. I have the small version but the medium sized one is the nicest.

            That eponymous bear has a lot to answer for. He not only set up the NCAA but as the great trust buster struggled against the monopolies. Some other Republican gave us Title IX. I can’t remember if Pell had something to do with all this, but I suspect he stuck his oar in for public benefit because that was his trademark.

          • kernel_thai

            Another concern was the low pay in conjunction with players making extra money taking coaching jobs in the fall. Im not really sure how many players that actually effects but it was mentioned. Certainly a longer season would help solve some of the problems as would raising the salary cap and the minimum pay.

          • Steglitz49

            The availability of fields and stadia.

          • Rdalford

            My understanding. NWSL schedule ending in August limits conflicts with NCAA since many NWSL players and coaches are involved with college soccer. WUSA and WPS used the same schedule. The WPS did extend schedule a little one year but it created employment problems and stadium availability problems. The winter weather makes it hard to start playing before April. MLS starts in March and plays on into the fall and this works ok where MLS owns/controls stadiums. Perhaps as more MLS teams become involved with NWSL the playing schedule decision might be revisited.

          • Elaine

            Yes, things are in constant flux and change regarding the NWSL. Nothing is set in stone like salary caps, ownerships, venues, number of teams, length of season, etc. etc. As a fan of women’s soccer in the US, it’s great to see this league being build from the ground up, even with various blemishes and blotches along the way.

          • Rdalford

            Yes, fun to watch the good soccer. As a fan, I hope (for players and fans and overall health of women’s soccer) that the NWSL grows into a solid league.

          • Steglitz49

            Indeed. Women all over the world who are interested in pro-soccer hope and pray that the NWSL succeeds and becomes financially secure. The world needs a thriving pro-league in the US for women’s soccer to take off.

          • Steglitz49

            In a free market, the teams could sell them and collect the transfer fee.

          • kernel_thai

            But both players came back from Europe last year to join the NWSL because they thought it would increase their chances to be in the US World Cup team. No one forced them to come back. Then they wanted to be loaned to Tyreso in the off season and Washington obliged them. Now they want to stay until June. If I were a Washington Spirit fan I sortta like to have them explain to me why they feel I should support the Spirit if their own players dont feel obligated to support them. Maybe u could bring in Rapinoe and Heath and have them weigh in on that topic.

          • NYRick

            Key point in all this: the most important thing for any US women soccer player of prominence and NT ability, is to play and star for the NT. That’s it. We all know fame and money comes from that above all else. So you can say, “no one forced them” all you want. Point is, the system that the USSF has in place for these girls is intimidating to say the least. It’s very easy for any player to get blacklisted in this program by the wrong step, regardless of talent.

          • JAMES

            Indeed.

          • kevin

            Please explain to me how it’s going to bite them in the ass?

          • Steglitz49

            Europeans do not play baseball. The English play cricket as does the former Empire.

            Some Europeans care about icehockey, though. Beach volleyball — maybe for the ladies.

      • newsouth

        if she loses her allocation, it makes sense to stay in Sweden and enjoy the CL run. if they don’t get a forward in Washington, she’ll be flaming on camera by the end of the season again.

        • Steglitz49

          One assumes that she has been given some promisses if not assurances. I expect that she will keep her allocation and that the Chief Ideologist of the NWSL will shore up not just DC’s attack but the whole shebang.

          The NWSL cannot afford a another season with a team with such a poor showing. Worse, the NWSL cant have a second bad season in succession for a team with such loyal fans that also represents the nation’s capital.

          • kernel_thai

            Yes the Propaganda Minister has been busy.

          • Steglitz49

            It is business before pleasure.

      • Silver Frost

        Don’t respond to this agent provocateur troll.

        • gerd karl

          everyone has their own opinion, and he may even express.
          or which has been abolished in amerika.

  • bada ba ba ba mclovin it

    so was Ashlyn only on loan then?

    • Jared

      Almost original. ALMOST.

  • Rdalford

    Jeff, Is it possible to get more detailed information on actual contract status for Harris and Krieger. Were the Harris and Krieger deals ones where Washington was loaning players to Tyresco? Or were these temp deals (short term contracts)? If deals were not loans then who (Washington? USSF?) holds contracts, or are they not currently under contract?

    Most deals for under contract NWSL players to go play for club teams in Europe or Australia etc have been clearly described a “players being on loan” – e.g. Spencer is on loan by Washington to Apollon, Farrelly is on loan by FCKC to Apollon, etc.

    However the initial news reports, around July 22, re Harris going to Tyresö called it a temp deal thru end of Nov 2013. Later August news reports on Krieger also called the deal a temp arrangement. But the articles also included some open ended comments from Krieger that made her plans a little unclear.

    Perhaps you could get Washington and/or USSF to clarify status.

  • Jigsawwill

    Maybe, just maybe Ashlyn’s life will still have meaning if she doesn’t play in the CL.

  • pressed

    Let’s pretend it’s Harris’ own choice to stay in the US though… it’s clearly what she wanted…
    (this convo happened last week)

  • xe

    Disappointed for them personally, but the Spirit are well within their rights to call them back. It was only meant to be a short-term deal. As a Spirit fan I’ll welcome them both back with open arms. I just hope the club’s management become a bit more proactive in the offseason to make the playing environment more attractive this year.

    And for those asking about Krieger – she’s removed all mentions of Tyreso and Sweden from her twitter and instagram bios. Back to DC for her, as expected.

    • Silver Frost

      Trade the mercurial Harris for an effective striker. DC is still quiet as the grave on trades and roster improvement.

      • xe

        There is a surplus of quality goalkeepers in this league. No one would trade a decent forward for one. Not that I’d want to lose Harris anyway. She’s one of the best in my opinion. We definitely do still need another solid free agent striker though.

        • Silver Frost

          IMHO, Press needs to be in DC, even if only for the last two months of the season. They might sneak into the playoffs if they can stay at .500 until Press joins. She would reunite with Krieger and perhaps Engen.

          • D23

            From the fact the Harris is staying in the NWSL I would infer that she will be allocated. If so that means there is only one allocation spot available at the Spirit so Engen and Press is unlikely. This is a tough one for the Spirit because if they get any of the TFF players that means they will be one allocated player down for half the season. Would they be better off with say Averbuch for a full season or Press for half? And what about Houston? Who are their allocated players going to be because three of the players marked for new allocations will not be here for half a season. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.

      • D23

        If Harris keeps her allocated status, which I think is likely, that means she can only be traded for another US allocated player. Now, I rate Harris, but there is no way I am trading Morgan, Wambach or Syd for her. Especially when, internationally, there are no other forwards as good as the US forwards who I could hope to pick up to replace them if I traded one for Harris. I even think A-rod is a better option at forward than what seems to be available to the NWSL from the international ranks.

        • Steglitz49

          I think the Chief Ideologist should move Alex to DC and send Ashlyn to Houston.

          • Silver Frost

            If Morgan goes to DC next season I’ll die laughing.

          • Steglitz49

            I will be pleased to attend your funeral. What sort of flowers do you wish for? Pink Dahlias?

  • canyon

    anyone know,s which team cristel dunn is going to play for ???

    • D23

      Not yet. All indications are that she will be in the draft and if so it is likely the Spirit will pick her up as they have first pick. They have been tweeting some stuff about her.

  • gerd karl

    ussoccer has the bondage reintroduced in the united states.
    ashlyn harris could have won an international titel with tyresö.
    have american players not have its own sake?

    what are american players when european clubs no longer have pleasure to oblige them.

    in germany they say already that one american players only bound when there are no more got out clauses.

  • gerd karl

    the usa u-17 womens are not by the wwc 2014 in costa rica.
    bad trainer?, no talents?

    • Steglitz49

      The qualifiers for FIFA U-17 from Europe are Italy, Germany and Spain, while the qualifiers for U-20 next year are England, France, Germany and — wait for it — Finland!

      Are we to conclude that Norway and Sweden are spent forces, and that neither Holland, Switzerland, Belgium or Portugal ever will amount to a hill of beans? Yet, Scotland may well stop Sweden from qualifying for WC-15.

      Nevertheless, it is inescapable that not only are England, France, Germany, Italy and Spain the populous countries of Europe, they have the wealthy club teams and leagues also. “Money, money, money”, sang ABBA and in “Cabaret” money made the world go round.

      • Silver Frost

        Extremely bad news for Spain, considering youth unemployment is 54% and what else do they have to do but play footie and make an impression in the world? Disgraceful failure. Que lastima.

        As for the Scots, they have improved lately, and make bold to play in WC-15, but I’m afraid Pia and SWE have some tricks up the sleeve and will top their group. Scotland might sneak in on the playoff tie if Israel don’t get it.

    • Joshua

      Brazil not in U-17 WWC either. Bad trainers? No talents?

      CONMEBOL getting better? CaWNT lost to Chile just the other day in Brazil.

      • Steglitz49

        Colombia, Paraguay and Venezuela — not the obvious teams,

        • Joshua

          Venezuela finished first in the qualification tournament. Brazil didn’t get out of group play.

          • Steglitz49

            First El Sistema for music, then buying Citgo and now besting Brazil at soccer. Where will it end?

  • Lorehead
    • treehill

      Engen is awesome. Klingenberg is hilarious, she reminds me of Rapinoe. Those Meg(h)ans. I love Press but in every interview she sounds pretty formal, like she’s writing a blog entry. She’s great when she relaxes more like in that Stanford quiz. Krieger is pure sugary niceness. Can’t believe she’s a defender, seems like she wouldn’t hurt a flea much less make a hard tackle.

    • NYRick

      For me, that goal by Engen eclipses LDV’s bicycle kick for women’s goal of the year. That was the stuff of CR7. And she is just such a likable player too. They just breed them at Tyreso. I wish they were an NWSL team instead with Kling, Press, Engen, Kriegs and Harris. Plus we’d have Marta and Vero to watch too. Just a fun and entertaining team when all together.

      • Steglitz49

        You could make them the nucleus of a new NWSL team where Marta and Vero would fill the overseas slots. Where would it play? Maybe Dallas, San Diego or Louisville?

        • Rdalford

          Perhaps Houston Dash since they have no players yet.

          • Steglitz49

            Touché! Any rumours about Houston apart from Ms Morgan? I have not seen any but they must have some ideas.

    • Joshua

      Looks like Sawa’s goal in the 2011 WWC Final. Ball came in at a different angle though and “bounced” off the other side of the right heel from Sawa’s Goal. However, it looked like it might have bounced off Engen’s leg and not her foot.

  • JAMES
    • Silver Frost

      Sesselman gets a red card for being a thug, but the game was poor. Brazil up one player and still couldn’t find the net. Sinclair was invisible. 0-0 Final. Meanwhile, Chile defeated Scotland 4-3.

      • treehill

        Darn, missed it. From the stats look like Canada got 4 yellows along with Sesselman’s red. Ouch.

        Other news Equalizer hasn’t posted yet: Alex Morgan won CONCACAF player of the year and Tymrak signed a new contract. Oh and Canada lost to Chile 0-1 earlier.

        • JAMES

          Its slow as hell on equalizer,what’s going on?

          • treehill

            Christmas break?

          • JAMES

            Lol,maybe hibernation?

          • Steglitz49

            Nothing much is happening in ladies’ soccer that pertains to the US.

        • NYRick

          Seriously, some of these awards make you laugh out loud when you hear them. Alex was CONCACAF POY??!! There were a good 7-10 girls, maybe more, who had better seasons than her in the NWSL alone. For the NT, she finished 4th in goals on the team with close to the most minutes played. And she was hurt for the key playoff NWSL matches. Who voted? The Nike Board of Directors. I guess so, since Abby finished second, but she was actually a better choice in this instance.

          And to prove I’m being objective here, Alex was blatantly robbed of FIFA POY last year, and Algarve MVP this year so maybe it evens out. But the PR machine is in full gear for her. Never seen anything like it for any athlete, male or female, in any sport. It’s amazing really.

          • JAMES

            Why not HOLIDAY?

          • NYRick

            Absolutely. That’s the choice without a doubt. Poor Lauren. Maybe people are confused with the name change.

          • JAMES

            Maybe the ALGARVE GAMES were more important than I thought.

          • NYRick

            They became important because of “who” scored the goals there. Sorry, truth.

          • JAMES

            There might be some truth to that or is it just another popularity contest in our neck of the woods?

          • NYRick

            Technically, deserving or not, Pinoe was MVP at Algarve. What does that tell you about the importance of the Algarve games. Pinoe didn’t even play the Germany final. Not a minute.

          • Steglitz49

            Probably. They show the status of this quaint tournament that grew out of Sweden’s women’s winter training camp.

          • JAMES

            I don’t think ALGARVE is a big deal, at least IMO.

          • NYRick

            You know who had a better NWSL season than Alex (which is a lot of what that award is based on: Holiday, Tymrak, Sinclair, Abby, Carli, Sam Kerr, Lori C., Syd, probably Brunn, Fishlock, and even Pinoe was a factor late for Seattle. You can even throw in Sanderson. I know there are others. Just being objective here because if you really want to throw in NT play for Alex, that was kind of average. Two goals against a mediocre Canada, two against Germany’s second team at Algarve and not much else. Just trying to be objective. Holiday deserved this. Would it be a crime for the USSF if Abby and Alex didn’t win every award?

          • JAMES

            Heck, I think even St Abigail is more deserving.

          • NYRick

            I’m finding nearly all of women’s soccer awards to be devoid of merit. They are based on popularity and name recognition, and PR sponsors first and foremost. It’s embarrassing really not to give that award, which is prominent, to Holiday. If I was Alex, I would be embarrassed. But I guarantee you she is most certainly not.

          • JAMES

            SMH.

          • treehill

            The question is, are soccer officials quietly chuckling about the controversy they create, or are they high-fiving each other?

          • NYRick

            I’ll be diplomatic and say both.

          • Steglitz49

            They do not give a fig about ladies’ soccer.

            If we are lucky they ask their daughters whom they should vote for. No point asking their sons.

            Be honest, if you were to ask the American people to name some women sport stars, which 5 might they come up with if they could name more than 3? They probably think Tessa Worley is an American. Have they heard of Jessica Diggins?

            I would guess they might mention Candace Parker, Serena Williams and Lindsey Vonn plus they think Carmelita Jeter is his sister.

          • Steglitz49

            It started in WC-11 if not earlier. Hope got the Golden Gloves but Kaihori saved the penalties that mattered. Only St Abigail scored hers against Kaihori but by then it was too late.

          • NYRick

            St. Abigail. LOL. Isn’t it amazing that she has become such a saint in this program? People have such short memories. That Brazil goal was worth millions to her financially and more so to her reputation. It meant everything. She should send Pinoe a fruit basket every month for that incredible entry pass that lead to the goal. Beckham could not have put a ball into the box better than that.

          • treehill

            Well I have news sure to warm your heart this holiday season: Wambach goal voted best moment in U.S. Soccer history

          • Steglitz49

            Better than winning the 1999 World Cup?

          • NYRick

            That’s actually almost legit. But my top 4:

            1. Landon’s WC goal against Algeria (made the US not only advance, they are eliminated without it, and win their group with England in it…plus the whole country was literally watching and it ushered in a new interest in soccer in this country.
            2. Alex 123rd minute goal: just incredible drama and heroics in the most important and most visible match the USWNT have played since the 99 WC final at the Rose Bowl. Plus, it enabled them to advance to the gold medal game. Lose that game and they most likely don’t medal at OG.
            3. Abby: Brazil goal. Big-time goal in a big-time moment. But that goal only got them to the semis. If it was a final it was truly #1, and they didn’t win the WC either. I would argue that Alex’s goal in Japan final to make it 1-0 in the 70th minute or so was far more dramatic and important.
            4. Chastain last shootout goal to win WC99: Just an iconic moment with her taking her shirt off and running. That shirt symbolized the flag for Title IX for women’s sports in the US. Actually, Chastain’s moment may be #1 for pure importance.

          • Steglitz49

            Scoring the goals that matter is what matters. Alex’s header, Tobin’s freekick, Sawa’s equalizer, Kumagai’s penalty. The list is long.

            Many overlook Carli’s three goals, odd as it may seem. She needs a better PR-agent. Too late now, perhaps?

          • Silver Frost

            Lloyd won the Olympics for WNT twice, but didn’t exactly show up for the World Cup last time. Her blasts were NEVER on net.

          • NYRick

            Lloyd has the worst agent on the planet (if she even has an agent). If Abby or Alex scored those 2 goals in the Japan final, there would already be a statue in place right outside the Calif. facility where the team trains. Plus, she scored the winner in the 08 OG final in the last minute too. It just goes to show when you don’t have a PR machine like NIke behind you what that means to your persona or appeal.

            Also, I think Alex is a real good player no doubt with a penchant for the moment, but her beauty is eclipsing her playing ability in terms of media exposure by a long shot now. It was always there, now it is reaching ridiculous proportions. Problem is, with her game predicated on speed and atheticism, she is starting to get injured and knocked around a bit now too. She isn’t fooling anyone anymore or sneaking up on any team. Everyone knows she runs like a deer and that’s how she beats you. Problem is, she needs to stay healthy and keep that speed or she is reduced to an average player because her other skills are good, not great.

          • Steglitz49

            Knee injuries are tough. Tessa Worley is aout of the Olympics because of one. As you type, Alex is easily recognized and can expect close marking. That could free up for someone else, as it did in the OG final, but one never can tell.

            As for beauty and charm, there is not much she can do about that, and she can be forgiven for cashing in. Life is not fair.

          • Steglitz49

            Worse. Carli failed to score her penalty, which would have levelled the scores, Ms Nagasato (now Mrs Ogimi, not to be confused with her kid sister) having just had hers saved by Hope.

          • Steglitz49

            I read somewhere that Sydney Leroux was in the running for NWSL’s Rookie of the Year award but Erika Tymrak got it. How on earth can Syd, who played for the NT in the OG-12, be considered a rookie in 2013? Give us a break!

            Maybe I read wrong? After all, everyone must be rookie of the year in the NWSL inaugural season.

          • Rdalford

            Technically, 2013 was Sydney’s first year playing in a professional league. She was drafted for WPS in 2012 but WPS folded and she played in W-league as an amateur. NWSL classified her as a rookie. The voters choose Tymrak who had a good year (and was clearly a rookie).

          • Steglitz49

            This section criticizes the nominations as well as how representatives vote for awards. The nomination of Syd, though technically ok, is a nonsense. As it was the electorate made a sensible choice.

            If USSF/NWSL make idiotic nominations for domestic awards, then what hope for FIFA?

          • Stay Pressed

            Tbh, Kelley O’Hara was the best player at the Algarve Cup this year. Pinoe just got that MVP award there cause outta the better known players it was her turn to win something.
            Everybody seemed very surprised with her getting that award, Pinoe included. I was in the crowd for it, and there was a general WTF vibe going ’round.

          • NYRick

            Agree on KO at Algarve. I watched all those matches via PPV and the match she played against Sweden was her best as an NT player. Thought she was on the cusp of big stardom there. Then, SB screwed her up with the forward move. Hopefully she can return to form. Also thought Kriegs was outstanding at Algarve, but Alex was MVP there. Pinoe no business with that award.

      • JAMES

        Brazil failed to capitalize on Canada being a man down.Looks like Chile is on fire,LOL

        • NYRick

          I think it’s becoming more and more obvious: Canada is just not very good. In the OG12 semi, Sinc had the game of her life and too many people base Canada’s place in women’s soccer on that game. I think they deserved to win and were robbed but they played over their heads. But that game I think gave the whole program an over-inflated view of itself and they have gone in reverse the past year or so. Either they are playing possum, or they have a ton of work to do to be any factor at WC15.

          • JAMES

            They didn’t play that bad today but there were dishing out a lot of rough tackles and Tancredi is not even back yet.

          • Silver Frost

            Canada not bad? How many shots on goal did they get? Two taps straight into the GK. But their defense proved themselves after going down one player due to Sesselman’s red card. If Tanc was back then Canada would have injured three Brazilian starters instead of two.

          • NYRick

            Tancredi = NHL hockey goon.

            You know the guy they have at the depths of their bench who barely plays and only steps on the ice to intimidate and injury when the game is getting overly chippy. That’s Tanc, except her role is for 90 minutes against women.

          • Steglitz49

            The NHL goons (enforcers) usually come to a premature and sad end.

          • treehill

            I’m sympathetic to Canada but the fact that Jonelle Filigno and Ally Courtnall have barely been mentioned, much less included on the roster, makes me wonder about Canada’s talent evaluation ability.

            If Filgino scored one more goal, she’d be in the top ten all time on the CWNT. Granted, that’s only 11 goals, but still, she’s just 24. Maybe there’s a good reason, like she had family issues and regressed, but no news at all? Not even a “our most promising young scorer suffered a setback and we hope she can recover”?

            And Courtnall- after watching the College Cup, how is it remotely possible that she was not scouted and is not already on the NT roster? She was like a woman playing among girls. Just crazy.

          • kevin

            Let this Courtnall girl prove herself next year. I find it so amusing how people get so excited over one player after one good season or a couple of games. If she is the same player next year then i’ll get excited.

          • treehill

            Yeah I’ll admit I might be overreacting to a few games. But as far as “proving yourself” being a requirement to get called up: how about those 15 or 16 year olds that Canada is calling up?

            I am making a relative judgement of a team that, by it’s own admission, is desperate for young talent.

          • Silver Frost

            Tell Herdman not to play Fleming, a 15 yr old, as he has done this week.

          • JAMES

            They are getting more physical. They should focus on crisp passes and finishing.I don’t know if they want to play thug football at the WC.
            You think maybe they are still moping over that loss at Old Trafford?

        • Steglitz49

          Why is Chile’s ladies being on fire so funny?

          • JAMES

            It is to me, like the way sometimes things out of the blue are.

          • Steglitz49

            Maybe they will be the Nadeshiko of WC-15. Let’s hope so. It would be fun. Japan-Chile in the final would be great! (The Faeroe Islands vs Chile would be even better but I do not think they will make it.)

      • Steglitz49

        Sesselman could have (should have, even) got sent off in the Olympics. Canada needs to smarten up. The refs may be a bit indulgent to the host nation in 2015 but there are limits.

        • Silver Frost

          The Brazilians will flop, dive, and simulate, like their brothers, but the USWNT will retaliate for rough conduct on the pitch.

  • Steglitz49

    Sylvia Neid was crowned as Germany’s trainer of the year on the distaff side. The male laureate was Hermann Weinbuch who is the manager of Germany’s team in Nordic Combined. It is said that the victory in Euro-13 swung it for Sylvia.