Reign remain winless following loss to Sky Blue

Dan Lauletta May 11, 2013 115

Sky Blue FC defeated a still winless Seattle team 2-0 on Saturday. (Photo copyright Howard C. Smith)

PISCATAWAY, N.J. — Laura Harvey was seething after her team’s 2-0 loss to Sky Blue FC on Saturday, and with good reason.

Seattle Reign FC assured they would finish the weekend on the bottom of the table and the victory made Sky Blue FC co-leaders of the league.

Danesha Adams and Lisa De Vanna nailed first half goals five minutes apart to stake Sky Blue to their lead in front of 1,459 fans at Yurcak Field.  They improved to 3-1-1 (10 points) to go level with Portland Thorns FC, who lead on goal difference and play at Chicago on Sunday.  The Reign dropped to 0-4-1 (1 point).

“We were nowhere near good enough in the first half,” Harvey said.  Asked to expand she said, “Everything.  We weren’t good enough in possession.  We weren’t good enough defensively.  We looked completely (dis)organized.  We looked like we haven’t trained.  We did pretty much the exact opposite of what we prepared for.  We just looked like a team that had never played together before.”

Sky Blue were the complete opposite.  De Vanna set the tone by challenging just about every ball played by the Reign backline over the first 20 minutes, and Christie Rampone was sharp with every touch on defense.  Rampone also played the 30th minute free kick that led to Adams’ first goal after Michelle Betos came out and punched it away.

“I was lingering at the top of the box and just hit it,” Adams said.  “I kind of felt like she was coming based on the ball so I didn’t even challenge.  I just kind of sat top of the box and hoped it came out to me and it did.”

Five minutes later De Vanna picked Kate Deines clean and walked in alone on Betos, who she beat to make it 2-0.

“One thing with Lisa, you can’t tell Lisa what to do,” Sky Blue coach Jim Gabarra said about De Vanna’s activity challenging the Reign backs.  “You’ve got to play off of her instincts and players have to get used to her instincts.”

De Vanna had earlier created a similar chance for Sophie Schmidt, but the Canadian midfielder put a soft shot on Betos.  In the second half Schmidt hit the crossbar on a pass from sub Taylor Lytle.  It was the closest she came to extending her goal-scoring streak, which was snapped at three matches.

For all their shortfalls, the Reign nearly stole one back just before halftime when Jessica Fishlock was played in and beat Brittany Cameron clean.  The next touch would have been a tap-in goal but Fishlock slipped as the ball trickled wide.

The Reign made an energetic start to the second half but had nothing to show for it.  The closest they came was in the 68th minute when substitute Liz Bogus charged down the left flank and found Kiersten Dallstream for a point blank effort.  Cameron dove right and pawed the shot wide.  The save of the night kept the score 2-0.

“I thought we played a little bit better in the second half,” Harvey said.  “Still wasn’t good enough.”

The Reign’s next opportunity to collect a victory will come Thursday night at home against the Washington Spirit, who are also winless.

“We’ve just got to be better,” Harvey said.  “If we’re not then we’ll lose.  We didn’t deserve anything out of the game tonight.  We’d be lying if (we said) we did.  We got exactly what we deserved, which was a defeat.”

Sky Blue are also heading to the Pacific Northwest, where they will play the Thorns in the NWSL’s first top-of-the-table clash on Thursday.  A return match against the Reign is next Sunday in Seattle.

Talking Points

-Keelin Winters took a knock to her ankle in the first half and was removed shortly after halftime.  Harvey said she has been carrying the injury for some time and did not look quite right to start the second half.

-Caitlin Foord had a solid game at right back for Sky Blue.  Gabarra said she is getting accustomed to the tactics of pro-level soccer.

-Asked if there were any positives to take from the match Harvey replied, “No.”

-Cameron’s save on Dallstream goes alongside her opening day penalty stop on Adriana that preserved a 1-0 victory over the Flash.

  • http://twitter.com/Deegley Diane

    Glad to see Harvey tell it like it is. Her players are better than they’ve shown. One or two players with passion won’t get the job done, the whole team has to step up.

    • Ashley

      I agree, it’s good to not sugarcoat things. Bet Fishlock is getting sick of being the only one fighting for the ball and trying to make things happen. I’m not even sure Rapinoe can fix things at this point.

    • Steglitz49

      One single measly point from 5 games is poor. I know there is no threat of relegation from the NWSL (yet) so there is no need for panic. Nevertheless, already looking to next season because this one is lost, where would the class players come from? The draft, I suppose.

      There is, however, a good chance that already next year there will be 10 teams in which case the two new-comers will get first bites at the cherries. Maybe Ms Rapinoe could bring Lotta Schelin or Louisa Necib with her when she shows up?

    • Kernel Thai

      It had to be discouraging for Harvey because even tho they werent scoring, her team was fighting hard and making teams beat them. Both goals tonight were giveaways.

      • Steglitz49

        The Reign could with benefit watch a video of how St Etienne beat the ogre of PSG yesterday.
        St Etienne scored two goals from two counterattacks — ok, maybe they had a third one which fizzled out.
        The Steffanies’ goalie played superbly; unfortunately, Ms Hope may not be back this season. Seeing that the Breakers do not play their Allocated goalie Cecilia Santiago, the Reign could request that Ms Santiago be sent to them (asa replacement for ARod).
        The St Etienne defense stood firm. Get some American defenders from abroad come and help out in their off season?

        • Michelle

          Hope should be back this season – she said on Twitter that she’s planning on playing one of the two late June friendlies against South Korea.

          • Steglitz49

            Excellent news. Let’s trust she does not rush her reentry.

    • luke

      When your best player Jess Fishlock is losing the ball several times since the beginning, you know you are in trouble. Their defence was really bad, too.
      I loved their effort vs FCKC last week, they were fighting through the whole game, but yesterdays peformance was disastrous.
      Pinoe will help a ton, but a quality striker what they need more.

      It was convincing victory for SBFC, but still, they could do much better in front, they should be up sth like 5-1 if they were more clinical. Playing vs better teams they will have to be.

  • Michelle

    I’m a Sky Blue fan but I legitimately felt bad for the Reign players tonight. My friend and I were near their bench to get autographs and they were not happy campers at all. I told Jess Fishlock that it was bound to go up from here and she said “We’ve been saying that for five weeks.” They just sounded defeated.

    • Audrey

      Wow… that breaks my heart a little. both of these teams are my faves in the league, so it was strange to feel happy and sad at the same time.

  • Anton

    The frustrating thing is, the U.S. allocated player we need the most is the one that’s not coming back.

    While it would be nice to have Hope and Pinoe back from a talent standpoint, it’s still not going to fix the #1 problem. Sure Pinoe will probably score on a couple 20 yard bombs or a free kick or two, but most of her service to the forwards will go astray. This team needs A-Rod (or any forward at or near her caliber) bad.

    • Steglitz49

      Have they got any foreign slots left to fill? Just as Ms Rapinoe and Heath went to France, maybe some good foreign striker who plays in a league with a winter season could come across for a few months?

      • Kernel Thai

        I dont think they do because Tiffany Cameron didnt get allocated from Canada, she got signed as a free agent (if I recall correctly) and Fishlock has the other spot.

        • Steglitz49

          Thank you. My idea bites the dust. Could it be done as some sort of exchange? Lyon or Bayern sends someone across and Reign sends someone to them in the off season?

          Anton suggested Sarah Hagen who, being American is OK. Nikki Cross has dual nationality and there is Gina Lewandowski, though both are defenders.

  • Cheryl

    Who’s to blame? Coach shouldn’t be yelling but working out what’s wrong and building a stronger team.

    • Anton

      No ones to blame per se. This team is just not good enough offensively. It’s not on Harvey either. Aside from Fishlock, who does she have right now that can put the ball in the back of the net? Might be better off going to the old Spain 4-6-0 formation at this rate.

      At least it’s not all doom and gloom soccer wise in Seattle though. The Sounders are finally waking the hell up. Maybe (hopefully) the Reign can do so too.

      • Steglitz49

        Maybe Ms Rapinoe could bring Lotta Schelin or Louisa Necib with her when she arrives. Is there a good foreign player with dual nationality who could come and help out (à la Nikki Cross in Bayern Munich who counts as German)? Someone playing in the Philippines for example.

        • Anton

          No team has the cap space to sign a foreign star like Necib or Schelin. In fact, I’d stay away from foreign superstars until the league gets more stable, no need to be throwing around silly money at this time.

          Since you brought up Bayern Munich, Sarah Hagen would be a godsend to this team, especially with Pinoe here. Rapinoe loves to whip in crosses on Abby’s head for the WNT, she would surely love to do the same for SEA with Hagen.

          • Steglitz49

            There seems to be a lot of goodwill among players all over towards the NWSL and a hope that it will be a success.

            Players like Schelin and Necib who allegedly earn $250,000 a year, might well do it as a favor to Megan as long as their housing and health insurance is covered and also for the experience of USA. Camille Abily, who played for both LA Sol and Gold Pride, is another possibility, but it seems that strikers are the priority.

            Your point about Sarah Hagen is well taken. The Reign ought to pick up the bone and speak to Uli or the Kaiser or whomever can do the needful.

          • Kernel Thai

            Strikers r a priority in any league because fans like goals. Look at how quickly Press rose in Sweden. Her climb would have been much slower if at all at another position. Ill throw out a name for u. Shinobu Ohno on loan from Lyon. Lyon cant seem to figure out what to do with her and she’d be a nice fit for Harvey. Unfortunately, they cant add any foreign players.

          • sol1711

            rapinoe and alex morgan to bayern münchen this is a great news.

        • Mayi81

          I doubt Schelin, Necib or any NT players will play in NWSL this summer as they’ll have the Euros from July 10th to 28th in Sweden. They had a pretty long season already so I guess they’ll want some holidays in August. Let’s see if it’s happens next year though, pretty sure some would like/dream to play in the U.S

          • Steglitz49

            Good point. Next year is full of world cup qualifying matches.

            Ex-pat American, Canadian and Mexican lasses to the rescue?

          • sol1711

            no europan top player will play in the joke league

          • http://www.facebook.com/forge.dias Forge Dias

            If you don’t like this league, then stop watching it. I don’t understand trolls like you.

          • Steglitz49

            Troll is to exaggerate a bit. Sol has a strange style but every so often the point is not totally irrelevant. The day Sol moans about Pia Sundhage, we know it might be time to launch her/him in that pea-green boat.

          • kolaroo

            “Troll” is hardly an exaggeration. Posts the same crap every time ad nauseum. On a forum with fans of the sport and the league, bashes it and calls it names and generally writes with all the skill of a 5-year old. I suppose the best thing is to not feed it, but let’s call a spade a spade and a troll a troll.

          • sol1711

            sorry, for my english

            it’s not my mother language

            ja, du vollidiot, ich schreibe ein schlechtes englisch, denn es ist nicht meine muttersprache.
            und es heisst im deutschen, nur aus kritik kann man lernen.

          • NYRick

            THIS.

          • NYRick

            Earth to Sol. Earth to Sol: The BEST women soccer players in the world are American girls. Always have been. Always will be. You can look it up. Last time I checked, sans a couple, all play in the NWSL.

          • Steglitz49

            Why are the Nadeshiko World Champions then? And Germany twice before them?

          • http://twitter.com/BostonRedSoccer Boston Red

            Well, the Olympics count for something too and the US has been ranked #1 for a long time.

          • Steglitz49

            The last Olympic soccer tournament to cut any ice in soccer was 1948.

          • http://twitter.com/BostonRedSoccer Boston Red

            Why do you say that? Women bring their full teams.

          • Steglitz49

            The soccer world see the World cup as the pinnacle. What is sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose.

            The OG is a rerun for the ladies but with some of the actors missing plus this time that FIFA had to accept the IOC overruling their ban on North-Korea, plus the refereeing issues. The world has pulled a sheet over the corpse, and walked away. Let’s trust that Euro-13 is clean pure fun and that WC-15 will be a fine tournament even if on artificial surfaces.

          • http://twitter.com/BostonRedSoccer Boston Red

            It’s easy to dismiss the Olympics, but it is a full-scale open tournament. The Germans had their chance to go, but didn’t make it. The WC is the top tournament, but the Olympics is pretty close behind.

          • Steglitz49

            I contend that the IOC should have made the tournament U-23 and had 16 teams as for the men. No doubt the USA would have won but that win would not be diluted out by arguments about the World Cup. It would also put pressure on other countries to create a structure either like the NCAAA or make the clubs expand their young ladies work.

          • NYRick

            We’ve been down this road together before. Full credit to Japan at WC11, but they were playing for a higher force that day. They were the inferior team by far in that match. The US team basically blew that match. Sorry to be crass on that, but’s it’s the truth and everyone knows it. But you’re right, Japan is the reigning WC champs.

            As for Germany twice before in the two other WCs, again credit to the Germans. I do believe they were the best team at those times. However, the American team was grossly mismanaged for a good 10 year period during that era, and their internal turmoil and seniority system in place as to who played has been well documented.

            Right now and probably for the next two cycles, there will not be a women’s team in the world who can hold a candle to the US team. The talent level is absurd and will continue to be. Especially with TS at the helm. I firmly believe that the US could field two international teams (US1 and US2) in either the WC or Olympics at the next two cycles and have a pretty decent chance of getting one or even both (depending on how they are seeded) into the final.

          • http://twitter.com/epang0710 Elaine

            The only teams I see might have a chance to beat us are the French and Swedes. The French has a deep roster with many talented players. The Swedes has a superb forward named Lotta, and let’s not forget Pia is over there and she knows the US team very, very well.

          • luke

            I strongly disagree. The only team that have a slight chance against US is and will be Nadeshiko. Just because they play the only style that can beat USWNT – possession style.
            And they’ve been pretty perfect doing that.

            I respect huge amount of talent that France, Germany and Lotta Schelin have, but US still have 100x more of it in their NT player pool. Chance you beat USA with over 1 million of female soccer players, playing their style is very slim.

            You need adapt the style of play that americans are not used to’don’t like, like 2011 World Champions Nadeshiko Team.

          • NYRick

            Excellent points. I agree with you. When push comes to shove in a major tournament, the team I fear for the US is the Nadeshiko. I also thought they carried the better of play in the recent Olympic gold medal match and only the missed handball call on Tobin in the box, and Hope basically standing on her head won that match.

          • luke

            Of course they did, IMO they played even better game than in WC final.

          • http://twitter.com/epang0710 Elaine

            I don’t know what’s going on with the Japanese team but they no longer have Sawa, Ohno, and Miyama (according to the roster they brought in for the Algarve Cup). In addition they lost to Norway and Germany in that same tournament. So unless their new group can gel in the next 2yrs, I don’t see how they can get beat us. I think the reason they have beaten us before is our back line/defense was very poor in clearing balls after a scramble in the box. Look at those 2 goals against us: 1st goal in WC11 final and 1st goal in Olympic final. They wouldn’t have scored if the US had cleared that ball out of the box. I think other teams know this as well (the 2 goals Germany scored against us this year were again due to misclearances and scrambles in the box) So unless we clean that up and tell our players to just kick that ball o-o-ut of there, we will see more teams bringing all their players forward and jamming in the box.

          • luke

            Is Miyama retired? I thought she just has some serious injury…
            I think US should’ve won 2011 WC final, but in olympic final they were slightly outplayed in my opinion.
            You shouldn’t concentrate so much on individual goals though, because one may bring up semifinal vs Canada, if you know what I mean. ;-)

            And you’re right – if you clean that mess in the box up, you will beat Ger every time – it should be sth like 4-1, 5-1 last time in Offenbach, but the thing is – no women’s team on this planet will ever be able to beat reasonably injury-free, prepared and concentrated Nadeshiko team 4-1 or 5-1. Their ethic, devotion and mental toughness won’t let it happen.

          • http://twitter.com/epang0710 Elaine

            Any chance we can play a friendly with them this year? I would very much like to see this great Nadeshiko team you talk about in action.

          • Olivia

            Maybe at algarve next year.

          • Steglitz49

            Japan are playing matches in Europe against England and Germany shortly before Euro-13. They may be playing other countries also.

          • sol1711

            offenbach germany-usa 3-3

          • Olivia

            The referees were obviously promised a mercedes benz after that match.

          • sol1711

            the referees in the olympic final promised a 100 000$ from ussoccer.

            olympic gold won the uswnt

          • Olivia

            oh you mean the german referee. The same one that refereed the wwc final against japan?

            so with that logic i guess japan promised her a life time supply of kirin beer and sushi. frau steinhaus living the life. wonder if she’s still working as a cop?

          • Steglitz49

            When the score was 0-0, Miyama beat the off-side trap but was erronously called off-side. Ms Steinhaus sent Iwashimizu off in 2011, but did not use the same yardstick in 2012. To be fair, in Frankfurt she did tell the American goalie to stop clowning around and trying to distract the youngster taking what became the last nail in the coffin.

            You were correct to mention the Kirin Brewery because when it was obvious that the JFA had no plans to reward the Nadeshiko, the Kirin brewery stepped in and paid them each a bonus which shamed the JFA into some semblance of action. Nevertheless, the next year the Nadeshiko had to fly economy to the Olympics while the U-23 men flew business class. Who would want to be a Nadeshiko — except for being World Champs!

          • newsouth

            the ref got into the emotional flow of those two games, so it seemed the ref was calling the games one-sided against the usa in the germany tie and canada in the olympics. that’s about it. that ref needs to go over the mission statement for refs. you are on the field but not a player in the game.

          • Steglitz49

            Please see my comment to Olivia. The referee was rightly taken to task by German media after the 2012 final. Wembly that day became famous for the spectators booing Blatter and the Nadeshiko clowning around on the podium. What else could they do?

          • Michelle

            I don’t think those players are “gone” per se, but I think Japan wanted their younger players to gain some experience against higher level teams at the Algarve. I admit that I didn’t get to see them play at all in Portugal (they didn’t play any games at the stadium near where we were staying) so beyond that, I can’t comment.

          • http://twitter.com/epang0710 Elaine

            I know for sure Sawa has retired. It would be strange to not include Miyama or Ohno in your roster going into Algarve. If not to play in the games at least be there for practices and supporting the younger players. It is a major tournament after all. I don’t have insider knowledge of anything, just an observation. The two players I mentioned could have injuries that we don’t know of too.

          • Steglitz49

            You may be right about Ohno. I took her move to France to mean that she was winding down. After the end of his season, she might continue another season as a super-sub.

          • stephy_paola

            Lets remember that when we played Germany we had a VERY young defense (Dunn and Mewis) …Engen and Rampone were the one clearing up Mewis and Dunn’s mistakes.

          • sol1711

            offenbach, germany – usa 3-3, and the uswnt led 1-3

          • sol1711

            japan and sweden and france playing 2012 against germany,

            japan and sweden lost, france reached a draw.
            the usa playing 4 matches against germany, 3 draw and one victory for the usa.

          • http://twitter.com/epang0710 Elaine

            Japan may not be the same team as last year. They have a lot of new young players and their best players are gone (Sawa and Miyama). Sweden may not have beaten us yet (only played them once this year), but they have Pia who was our coach for 5 yrs. She knows the tactics and tendencies of our team and players. So I don’t think you can count the Swedes out just yet. As far as Germany, if we can clean up our defense and play better in the box, I don’t think they could win against us. Also their defense is not as strong as you think (multiple errors in the games against us).

          • TN

            2013 USA vs Germany
            USA won 1, tied 1
            Germany lost 1, tied 1

          • sol1711

            germany has 2013 not game lost

          • sol1711

            the usa plays 4 matches against germany, one play won the usa.

            france and sweden won nothing against the usa and had no draw.

          • Steglitz49

            For once you are wrong, Sol, though I hate to point it out. Sweden drew with USA in Algarve this year. Sweden beat USA in WC-11.

          • Steglitz49

            In all fairness, Germany is stronger than those two, at least on paper, and probably England also. We will know how the European countries stand at the end of July. We may be in for a bit of a surprise.

          • http://twitter.com/epang0710 Elaine

            Who do you have in the final at the Euros and why?

          • Steglitz49

            Germany and hopefully Sweden, because it is always great with the home team in the final.

            Realistically Germany are more likely to face either England or France because they are better than Sweden on paper, though France has a problem with big matches. France has strength at U-17 level and some good U-19 players, which bodes well for them for WC-15.

            Norway is on the up again but unlikely to be strong enough this time but for WC-15 they will be a very dark horse indeed, as will Spain. Both Denmark and Finland can cause an upset. Italy was the first team to qualify for the tournament and one of their club teams got to the CL QF stage and another did well also.

            In short, there is no clear favorite apart from Germany.

          • http://twitter.com/epang0710 Elaine

            England has beaten the French a few times already. Germany needs to improve their defensive line or else Lotta will capitalize on their mistakes. I think Sweden has a very good chance of winning it. It would be fun to watch. By the way, do you know where we can watch these games?

          • sol1711

            algarve cup, germany beat sweden with 4-0

          • http://twitter.com/epang0710 Elaine

            That win was Algarve 2012, pre Pia as head coach. Let’s wait till after the Euros to see who is the better team from Europe.

          • sol1711

            yes, germany’s 8 euro titel

          • newsouth

            USA will muscle France off the field after the 60th min as usual, and turn them into a long ball shooting mid-field, once they eliminate DElie. Sweden will need a soft whistle, because Pia will try to turn it into a slug fest, knocking forwards down in the box to disrupt the attack.

            That just leaves Germany.

            Without the world behind team, Japan doesn’t have enough fire power. Now, that the USA can high pressure, one turnover turns into an instant goal. And japan can’t trade with them. They are still a counter team.

            Sermanni is doing the world an injustice by capping all that talent 2 yrs ahead of schedule. How much better with Dunn, Engen, Mewis, Press and other be in 2 yrs? Even Sydney is becoming more complete under him. You need another act of nature to beat them.

          • sol1711

            germany has topplayer for 6 german national teams.

            germany won the wc 2003 and 2007.

            america won the wc?

            olympia and does not cunt, it is not a pure football tournament.

          • TN

            America (you mean US I’m assuming) won WC 1991 and 1999 BEFORE Germany.

          • sol1711

            yes, before but not after

          • sol1711

            america is correctly, canada and mexico still belong to the usa.
            NATIONAL women soccer league

          • NYRick

            Also, you don’t agree that the best women soccer players in the world “overall” are not American? C’mon. Get real.

          • luke

            One thing I always admired in Americans: they respect champions. You need to have a ring to be a big thing there and “don’t ever underestimate the heart of a champion” by Rudy T.

            That’s why it’s stunning to me to read that some of them, american soccer fans and officials have been looking down on Nadeshiko’s World Champions. Like it’s not a big deal to win WC!

            USA – GER friendly? They called it “No1 vs No2 in the world” – I’m asking “whaaat?” You can make a case for olympic women’s soccer tournament being main full squad football competition, so let’s assume USA is #1 right now, but Germany?
            After they were beaten by Japan in WC in front of 26k devoted german fans? After Nadeshiko crushed Sweden in semis? After they shocked the world by winning it all? Finally WHICH TEAM is the last team USWNT lost to? And how do you think, why Alex Morgan, who scored like billion goals vs all teams in the world, has her goal vs Japan in 2012 at her personal top?

            It’s just very uncharacteristic for american mentality to be disrespectful towards World Champions in Women’s Soccer, The Great Nadeshiko Japan.

          • sol1711

            germany won algarve cup 2012, germany-japan 4-3, germany- sweden 4-0

          • Steglitz49

            Thank you.

            Few, if any, people accept how wonderfully talented the 2011 Nadeshiko were and how incredibly well they played. In a desperate year for Japan, these young ladies provided a ray of sunshine. They warmed the cockles of all Japanese hearts.

            In its symbolism, the 2011 final is parallel to the 1954 final. More than anything, that is the reason why it will resonate in times to come. It was a triumph within a context. It had meaning outside soccer. (It also has changed ladies football, but that is another story.)

          • http://twitter.com/epang0710 Elaine

            I think you can respect a team, but still want to beat them and don’t think they can beat us again. That’s what’s great about sports and rivalry and pride in country. I have a lot of respect for the Japanese players. They play the sport purely without resorting to smack talking and questionable tactics and fouls like other teams (if you know what I mean).

            You make a good case about who should be No 2 in the world. Should it be Japan or Germany? Based from past 2 yrs, I definitely think it should be Japan, finalists in Algarve 2012 and Olympics 2012, and WC winners in 2011. But then again Germany beat Japan in the final of Algarve 2012 and have won more WC in the past.

          • Steglitz49

            It is too early to start predicting WC-15. Not only are there 24 teams this time, which will give some early poor performers a second bite at the cherry, but North-Korea are banned. In addition, the Philippines and Iran are stirring their stumps. So much is going on in the female vineyard, that only by their fruit shall we know them. Yeehaw!

          • http://twitter.com/BostonRedSoccer Boston Red

            You mean the German team ranked #2 by FIFA?

          • sol1711

            marozsan, kulig, kessler, mittag, peters, henning, wensing, odebrecht, schellin, necib and many many many other topplayer playing not in the nwsl.

            the american player strong, yes but tactic and technology is by european players better.
            the german team won two world championchips and 7 european championchips.
            and german women football teams won 6 uefa and champions league titel.

          • NYRick

            My statement is intended to mean that 23 of the 24 USWNT players play in the NWSL (the league with the most talent in the world). Overall, the US girls are the best and most talented players in the world. Of the list you name, I say only 3 (Marozsan, Lotta and Necib) can even be considered as good as the US players. Also, Marozsan and Lotta were no-shows against the US at Algarve. They did nothing. Marozsan is a very exciting player and I do see her potentially as maybe someday the best player in the world.

            I give credit to the German team for their two WC victories. They were the best team then. Now, the US team is superior on all counts. Also, the only tournaments that matter are the WC and Olympics. I don’t care about European championships. The USWNT would win those tournaments year after year in they played in them. US soccer fans fear Japan. That’s the only team that has a chance when everything matters, not Germany or France.

        • sol1711

          niki cross dad is german, she has a german passport

          • Steglitz49

            Ms Cross was born in USA and payed soccer for UConn, which is better known for its ladies basketball. She has played in many and various countries, including Sweden and England before settling in Germany. She also played for various American pro-soccer teams but her greatest success was winning the DFB-pokal with Bayern Munich last season.

            Being born in the USA she could become President one day …

  • Steglitz49

    Seeing that Sol has not yet commented, an attendance of 1,459 on a Saturday is a bit worrying.

    OK. It is about the same and probably a bit more than watched St Etienne’s ladies (the Steffanies) beat PSG 2-0 in the semi-final of the French cup, if that is any consolation, but it is well below that magical 3,000 mark someone said was minimum.

    • R. Orr

      The one thing I can say about the attendance number is that it was a bit of a nasty weather day on the East Coast on Saturday, A lot of thunderstorms moving thru the area yet… out of all the NWSL teams, Sky Blue does seem to be struggling the most with attendance.

      • SBfan

        Your right about the weather – was nasty both days but cleared up for game time. Still looking for any meaningful marketing campaign from the Sky Blue management – other than a single line score in the local papers hidden away in the summery page there is nothing. There are a lot of young girl soccer teams in the State and a mailer to their leagues wouldn’t hurt. Also, a great fan base would be the alums of those traveling teams which have been in existance in New Jersey for the past 25 years – got to reach out to them and their kids.

        • NYRick

          It’s a shame really. And you’re absolutely right about no meaningful marketing campaign for SB. The state of NJ has been a major US soccer fertile recruiting ground for both the men and women for years. Some NJ players are US soccer legends (Harkes, Meola, Ramos, Reyna). The current USWNT has about 7 girls in the top 25 talent pool. Many are major stars (HAO, Tobin, Rampone, Carli, Yael, Loyden). I know I’m forgetting someone. The insane thing is that it’s a cold weather state for the most part. The production is absolutely amazing when you realize that.

          More needs to be done in this state by US soccer and the NWSL from a marketing standpoint to promote the sport to the young girls in the state. The talent is obviously here.

          • Anton

            Yeah, NJ has really churned out some real talent both male and female. In addition to the MNT legends, current MNT players Howard, Bradley, Altidore and Agudelo were all born or raised in NJ, that’s three of the most important players on the squad. Then of course you have a certain ‘Italian’ who’s name I won’t mention.

            Pretty amazing as you said, it’s mostly cold weather.

    • newsouth

      The community has tie-in to the Sounders women. That’s why you didn’t see Fitz try to put the Beat in the same stadium as the Ravens women when they were in the WPS. They don’t have a forward, and may be second fiddle at starfire stadium. Either they find away next season to fuse with the sounders women or get absorbed by the sounders men. their own has tie-ins to the tech industry with guys in Paul Allens group. The sounders must not care for women football at all. You would think with Solo on the roster that might catch their interest. I’ve said, USSoccer will load MLS franchise rosters like they did with Portland to insure they have a winning product for their fan base.

      • R. Orr

        This article states that both team unequivocally played in New Jersey on Saturday. Take a deep breath before you post.

        • stephen

          I noticed that Sounders Women reported attendance of over 1600 for a pre-season exhibition. Seattle fans aren’t used to a bottom of the table women’s team. The natural fan base might be evenly split between the amateur and pro teams, which is obviously bad news for the pro team.

          • Steglitz49

            Man Utd once dropped out of the top division in the English league … but it was a long time ago

      • Anton

        The Sounders are working with the Reign for future partnerships, Predmore has said it numerous times. It won’t be a takeover, but they’ll be connected in some sort down the road I imagine. I could see something like allowing the Reign to play one game (likely against PDX) at CenturyLink a season.

        To say the Sounders don’t care for women’s football is ludicrous. They’ve allowed an amateur team use their kits and logo for a few years now, they’ve given Hope, Michelle Akers and Michelle French golden scarves (Alex was rumored to be getting one last year, but I assume that’s 100% off the table now) and both ownership and players been supportive of the Reign since the beginning. The Sounders have also let the Reign have a meet and greet/autograph session before one of their CONCACAF CL games this year to give the club awareness. Just because they don’t own a club like Portland does doesn’t mean they don’t care.

    • NYRick

      It was a pretty bad weather week (Wed and Sat matches for SB) in NY/NJ area, but the rain really stopped before both games. This team should draw at least 3,500-4K per match. No excuse not to. Hopefully it picks up in the warm summer months. SB I believe goes on the road for 3, then plays about 4 matches in NJ in June. That will be a good barometer for their attendance. They are proving to be a pretty good side and in June, AM comes to town (that will be a sellout), and KC too.

      Keep in mind though that NJ is tradtional a bad state for drawing fans to pro events. The Nets literally moved to Brooklyn. Even when they had Jason Kidd and NBA final back to back teams they didn’t draw as well as they should. The Devils won 3 Stanley Cups and still don’t fill the building, and the Red Bulls have the most beautiful pitch/arena in the country and it’s 2/3 full on most matches. The NY Giants are another matter, but American football is really the culture here. But as an ex-Rutgers alum, I was never thrilled with the Rutgers location for SB. Hard to get to and out of the way for most in the state with not the most ideal parking situation. No real direct mass transit either to the stadium. Have to go by car. That pretty much sums up NJ in a nutshell for sports. Less than 1,500 on a Sat. night isn’t very good though, any way you want to sugarcoat it. This team does have a popular national team player like Kelley O’Hara.

      • Steglitz49

        For the NWSL to thrive, surely there must be a couple of teams between Beantown and the Beltway?

      • Michelle

        If the team was smart, they would organize a shuttle pick up/drop off for fans at the New Brunswick train station. It’s not too far from the stadium but far enough that walking is pretty much out of the question.

        • Steglitz49

          Cost?

          • Michelle

            I have no idea. One or two van rentals for five hours one day a week can’t amount to much. (Or strike a deal with a rental company and exchange the free use of two vans for some advertising time. God knows they make enough advertising announcements during game play as it is.) Get two of your interns to drive the vans.

            Ta-da!

          • necron99

            Good idea all the way up until you said interns driving the van. In most states that would be illegal. You can’t drive paid passenger carrying vehicle without the correct commercial license.

          • stephy_paola

            I guess they only did it for the 1st game againts Portland … i just found a tweet from 4/25/13:

            “Dont forget about saturday’s bus from Chi to our match vs @thornsFC 7pm. Onlu $15 incl ticket Visit (link)”

            I just clicked on the link and it doesnt work anymore

        • stephy_paola

          I think the Red Stars are doing something like that. You can pay a certain amount which includes the shuttle, game ticket and something else but i forgot.

  • NYRick

    I only saw the first half but that was a complete beatdown. It was so uncompetitive that I didn’t even feel like watching the second half. It looked like the field was tilted with the way SB spent the whole time in the Reign end. Felt bad for Fishlock. She deserves better, quite frankly it didn’t look like the Seattle players were even competing. Seattle didn’t look like the same team that gave Portland such a good game early. Might be a little telling about Portland because Seattle is just plain bad. Need Pinoe in the worst way, but mostly need some type of forward presence in the lineup. Arod would have helped for sure.

  • sol1711

    1459 spectators, is great, is the biggest spectator number of the world. sarcasm

    • Steglitz49

      1492 might at least have been symbolic

      • sol1711

        symbolic no, 1492 columbus discovered america.

        in the year 1000 discovered the viking america

        not spain, not the italy discovered america

        the nordic people were.

        • Kernel Thai

          Americas discovered 12,000 years ago by nomadic Asian tribes crossing the Bering Straits land bridge or at least that’s the theory. If Vikings had discovered it, it would have been unpopulated.

          • sol1711

            sorry, that is true
            very sorry

  • MT

    Unfortunately I don’t see Seattle improving this year. Their B Team forwards are inept. The strength is in the midfield but even with 5+ mids on the field they can’t score. It’s so bad that Harvey tried a mid and a defender as starting forwards yesterday and we know how that turned out.

    Thankfully they’ve already signed ARod for next year so that should help. But they also need to bring in more quality players up top.

    • Anton

      Well there’s no guarantee that we’ll have A-Rod next year because of that stupid Keelin Winters trade.

      If she stays on as an allocated player, she has to go to Chicago because we’re not giving up Rapinoe or Solo. If she’s not, then I guess we keep her and we lose whoever our third allocated player would be.

  • Greg_G

    That “effort” by Seattle last night was probably the worst by an NWSL team so far this season. There was no energy, hustle, or urgency from the squad. At a certain point you have to get past the USWNT absences and at least fight for a result. I saw a team that has no answers anywhere on the field. I can only give some credit to Fishlock and Betos for at least showing some effort and emotion.