Two women’s soccer ownership groups vying for Seattle

Liviu Bird October 9, 2012 7

Sounders Women CEO Lane Smith speaks to media on Tuesday. (Photo Copyright: Liviu Bird)

TUKWILA, Wash. — The future of women’s soccer in Seattle got even muddier on Tuesday, as the Seattle Sounders Women announced in a press conference held at the team’s headquarters that it will return in 2013, but the league in which it will play is still to be determined. Club co-owner and CEO Lane Smith presided over the discussion.

“The Seattle Sounders Women will be back next season, and we have every intention of playing at Starfire Stadium,” Smith said. “What league or leagues we will field a team or teams … is yet to be determined.”

The announcement comes on the heels of an announcement in an email to media on Friday that former general manager Amy Carnell will not be returning in 2013.

“I am currently working with an owner here in Seattle that believes in the game as much as I do,” she wrote.

Reached by phone Tuesday evening, Carnell confirmed that she is working with President of digital agency POP Bill Predmore and the other Seattle ownership group interested in the new women’s professional league.

Smith said the Sounders Women decided not to renew Carnell’s contract “about two months ago.”

“We are now moving forward in a position where myself, Cliff (McIlroy, Sounders Women co-owner) and Jon Billings (director of communications and broadcasts) are really taking on the de-facto role of general manager right now,” Smith said.

Asked about recent rumors regarding head coach Michelle French’s departure, Smith said an announcement on her future with the club could come later this week.

On Friday, president Sunil Gulati said “10 markets and 11 teams” were in the running for the new women’s league.

“We’ve got a unique situation in one market where there are a couple of different possibilities,” he said.

Smith did not confirm that Seattle is the market with two possible teams, but Predmore’s group is also in the running for a team in the new league.

“I’m going to let Gulati answer those questions,” Smith said. “It’s really up to him, but you can draw your own conclusion.”

However, Smith did say that it is possible there will be a professional team in the city next year that will not be the Sounders Women. Smith admitted that would make it more difficult for a lower-level team to remain viable.

“We would go forward either way,” he said. “No matter what, the Sounders Women will be playing here at Starfire next year, dependent on what league we decide to play in.”

The two Seattle ownership groups could work together, but “both entities kind of want to control their own destiny,” Smith said.

In a phone interview after the press conference, Predmore said no discussions are currently ongoing between his group and the Sounders Women.

“We have a lot of respect for the Sounders organization and the team that Amy Carnell and the Sounders Women put on the field last year,” he said. “I think we are always open to discussions that would make our club better, but at this time, there are no talks that are ongoing between our organization and the Sounders Women.”

Predmore added that he hopes to have “a significant amount of news” of his own to share in the near future.

On the Sounders Women’s intent to play in the new league, Smith deferred to U.S. Soccer’s need for further negotiation and his desire to allow the situation to develop more.

“We’re still getting information from U.S. Soccer,” he said. “If you look at (Gulati’s Q&A), there’s also a proposal that USL would be a part of this new management structure.”

The Sounders Women ownership group also owns the Sounders U-23 of the USL Premier Development League, which gives them “two teams in good standing with USL,” Smith said. The group’s contract with USL runs until the end of the 2014 season.

He did not rule out the possibility of having a professional team in the W-League. Several teams in both USL amateur leagues, W-League and PDL, are professional. It gets complicated with regard to NCAA eligibility because a team with any paid players is considered professional.
In his statement, Gulati said U.S. Soccer’s role in the new professional league could include funding the national team players’ involvement.

“A big part of our participation would be that the national team players would play in this league and perhaps be funded directly by U.S. Soccer,” Gulati said.

It is unclear whether that funding would also apply for national team players playing on a professional team in the W-League. Hope Solo, Alex Morgan, Megan Rapinoe, Sydney Leroux and Stephanie Cox played in the W-League in 2012 with the Sounders Women, but no players on the team were paid.

“We want to do what’s best for women’s soccer in the country, and I think that we did what we thought was best for women’s soccer in the country last year,” Smith said. “We were highly successful in doing so.”

Despite the uncertainty surrounding the club, the agreement between Sounders FC and Sounders Women is not in any danger, he said.

Teddy Mitalas, former head coach of the Sounders Women, was also announced as the club’s new director of community relations during the press conference.

Liviu Bird is the assistant editor of Prost Amerika, covering all things Cascadia. Follow him on Twitter.

  • Angie

    “‘The two Seattle ownership groups could work together, but “both entities kind of want to control their own destiny,’ Smith said.”

    ….

    “‘We want to do what’s best for women’s soccer in the country.’ Smith said.”
    Given that a power struggle between owners and a lack of unity across the board in WPS helped contribute to its demise, I feel like Smith doesn’t really understand the scope of Women’s Soccer in this country right now.
    When you coach kids you have to teach them early on that one player can’t carry the team on his or her shoulders. You can try and dribble the ball halfway down the field, but you’re likely to get mauled by defenders halfway or 2/3rds of the way to the goal. You have to find teammates, pass, share the responsibility of moving the ball forward.
    These owners are still stuck on wanting to be ‘That Guy’ who finally got Women’s Soccer to work in this country. They’re not willing to pool resources and end up competing against the very people the need to work with to find success. It would be great if they could learn that lesson from the sport they are putting so much money in.
    It’s incredibly frustrating to observe as a fan. I can only imagine how the players feel.

  • http://bleacherreport.com/users/535519-nick-p nick price

    Sounders Women are in a tough spot

  • Steglitz49

    Please explain why two ladies’ clubs could not coexist in Seattle. Liverpool has Liverpool and Everton and Manchester has City and United. Why not 2 teams in Puget sound?

    • Jen

      Because those cities in England can support two teams. In America, we can’t even support one entire womens’ league. So it is silly to argue why can’t an area support two womens’ teams when we cannot even support one womens’ league.

      • Steglitz49

        Agreed. I was a bit tongue-in-cheek when I typed. Professional ladies’ football the world over seems to run on certain common features. Those include subsidy from either a rich individual or a wealthy men’s team or local government. In England, when Chelsea’s ladies ran short of money, John Terry of all people opened his wallet and persuaded some of his male colleagues to chip in. The ladies of Chelsea replied by making Terry their Club President. In Japan one of the teams has been subsidized at the tune of $1.5M/year for many years by a businessman of Korean descent. The owners of PSG are putting money into their ladies’ side, as has Lyon for years.

        Another aspect is that it helps if there is no good men’s team nearby (eg Umeå and Vittsjö in Sweden). The game is one of the suburbs (Potsdam, Tyresö, Essen-Schöneberg) rather than the inner cities. Finally, it would appear that in Japan and Germany they seem to have figured out that ladies’ football is more than just a match.

        Stating the obvious, the USA is a huge country with large distances and 300M inhabitants. Surely, it has to have its own model. If the people of the greater Seattle area love ladies soccer, why should they not have two teams? The province of Skåne in south Sweden, population 1,2M, has 3 teams in the top ladies’ division, as does greater Stockholm (Tyresö, AIK, Djurgården).

        Europe has its Champions League. Why not an north-American club competition of 128 teams? 2 per state + either 28 wild cards or teams from the Canadian provinces.

        In short, VW owns Wolfsburg. Bayer and Philips are the only companies who are allowed to have their company names in soccer clubs because the firms started the clubs for the benefit of the workers. Where are “Starbucks LFC” and “Microsoft LFC” when you need them?

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